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06-13-2013, 10:58 AM
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singing beach walk on charge
how is it possibly legal for manchester by the sea to charge people to walk onto the beach? all beaches are accessible if there is public access...they charge $5 to walk off a public road and onto the beach...
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06-13-2013, 11:05 AM
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President - S-B Chapter - Kelly Clarkson Fan Club
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I think the colonial ordinance is only applicable if you are fishing, fowling, or navigating. If it is town property I guessing they have the right if you are just sun bathing. Bring a rod and tell them about the ordinance!
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06-13-2013, 11:17 AM
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$12.50 will get you a season Pass........ and there is nobody there at night to collect the fee
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"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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06-13-2013, 11:45 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
$12.50 will get you a season Pass........ and there is nobody there at night to collect the fee
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it is not the amount they charge (used to be $2) but just the principle of charging to walk on to a beach from a public road...i am becoming a disgruntled old man i guess but it pisses me off... |
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06-13-2013, 11:56 AM
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It all started about 12 years ago when the town of Manchester realised how many people came by train and walked to Singing Beach....the charge was a dollar...the town is un friendly even if going there by car.
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06-13-2013, 11:59 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fly Rod
It all started about 12 years ago when the town of Manchester realised how many people came by train and walked to Singing Beach....the charge was a dollar...the town is un friendly even if going there by car.
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i'd be interested to find out how it is actually legal...for any attorneys out there? |
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06-13-2013, 12:13 PM
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BigFish Bait Co.
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Location: Hanover
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Don't walk on.....run on!!!  |
Almost time to get our fish on!!! 
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06-14-2013, 01:45 PM
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i already called the director of parks & recreation to inquire and ultimately complain about this ridiculous, potentially illegal walk on charge...i encourage y'all to do the same...
Town of Manchester-by-the-Sea - Parks & Recreation |
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06-17-2013, 11:36 AM
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President - S-B Chapter - Kelly Clarkson Fan Club
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Yeah the thing with Good Harbor is that you actually can pay to park as an out of towner whereas I think the entire lot at Singing is resident only (unless that has changed)
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06-17-2013, 07:51 PM
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I spoke with my bro-in-law over the weekend that lives in Manchester-by-the-sea, and he said as long as he has lived there thier has been a charge during the day. He thought up until this year it had always been $3.00. So charging to walk on isn't new to that beach.
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Swimmer a.k.a. YO YO MA
Serial Mailbox Killer/Seal Fisherman
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06-18-2013, 07:13 AM
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The beach charge has nothing to do with beach erosin....it started out being snobish towards out of towners years ago.
As far as non resident parking I think they had two spots years ago...what they have now I do not know.
Regardless, U will not be fishing from the shores of Manchester unless U know someone that has property along the shore.
I think U can park at the little mall and train station and hike to the beach after 5 o'clock in the evening, no charge....be careful a resident may mistake your rod for a riffle and call the local cops as U walk.
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06-19-2013, 08:45 AM
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...so from talking with some lawyer friends and looking into the issue briefly and muddling my way through a ridiculous amount of legal jargon, it looks as though case law allows towns to charge 'fees' to non residents even for walk on charges...something so unethical about this...the beach just screams to be public for all to enjoy...
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06-20-2013, 07:35 PM
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Retired Surfer
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Quote:
Originally Posted by doc
...so from talking with some lawyer friends and looking into the issue briefly and muddling my way through a ridiculous amount of legal jargon, it looks as though case law allows towns to charge 'fees' to non residents even for walk on charges...something so unethical about this...the beach just screams to be public for all to enjoy...
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Thats because residents already pay fees in the form of property taxes to use beach
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Swimmer a.k.a. YO YO MA
Serial Mailbox Killer/Seal Fisherman
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06-19-2013, 03:51 PM
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President - S-B Chapter - Kelly Clarkson Fan Club
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I've actually found that at night and early am there is not a lot of enforcement of the resident only areas, but definitely is during the day...
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06-21-2013, 06:06 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2002
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this whole idea of charging to walk on a beach
reminds me of white wigged judges from England
makes me sick inside
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06-21-2013, 09:19 AM
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Registered User
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Raven
this whole idea of charging to walk on a beach
reminds me of white wigged judges from England
makes me sick inside
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precisely |
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