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03-13-2015, 09:16 AM
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Seldom Seen
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 10,543
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Changing it up, need to add bucktails
We all have our favorites and preconceived notions as we load the plug bag or reach into the tackle bin, as to what is going to be the sure fire lure for that outing. This off season's reading has lead me to the conclusion that I need to try, use, and get more confidence in the bucktail.... Guess I am just a slow learner.
So, what is your favorite bucktail, in what conditions, and which heads do you think are the right shape, weight, etc?
Thanks for your input
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03-13-2015, 09:44 AM
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Very Grumpy bay man
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 10,824
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I use white JoeBaggs bucktails with a red pork rind at the Canal. Weight depends on the stage of the tide but if it's really humping on a new or full moon 4 and even 5oz.
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No boat, back in the suds. 
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03-13-2015, 09:59 AM
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Too old to give a....
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 2,505
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White bucktails ben berry berry good to me over the ages.
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03-13-2015, 10:02 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2004
Location: CT/RI
Posts: 1,627
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In the surf I usually throw ¾ to 1.5 oz bucktails depending on conditions. Jigging inlets/breachways 1.5 oz up to around 3oz. I usually go with a pork rind trailer, 70S I think is the size. For the most part I stick with white on both the bucktail and the pork, I’ve tried other colors (black, wine red, chartreuse etc…) but white seems to catch as well or better than others the majority of the time. I like the bullet style over the smiling bill. Joe Baggs bucktails are what I usually throw.
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03-13-2015, 11:06 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Southern RI
Posts: 383
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Quote:
Originally Posted by piemma
I use white JoeBaggs bucktails with a red pork rind at the Canal. Weight depends on the stage of the tide but if it's really humping on a new or full moon 4 and even 5oz.
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Where is the best place to buy them Paul?? Thanks.
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03-13-2015, 11:28 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Marshfield, MA
Posts: 1,749
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You thinking from the surf or boat.......or both?
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Jon, 24' Nauset-Green Topsides, Beamie, North River. Channel 68/69. MSBA, NIBA
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03-13-2015, 12:00 PM
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Seldom Seen
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 10,543
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Need to explore both to find out what I am missing
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03-13-2015, 12:32 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: New Haven
Posts: 1,267
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I stick to white in 3/4-1.5 ounce. I only really fish them in rivers but I always seems to have a few in my bag all season. I use a white curly tail on mine instead of pork rind (laziness). I use JoeBaggs about 95% of the time.
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03-13-2015, 01:24 PM
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Chris Blouin
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Warren, RI
Posts: 3,330
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3/4-1.5oz for the surf, white or black
Instead of pork strip I use the otter tails, they never dry out and you don't even have to take em off when your done fishing
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03-13-2015, 02:11 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 10,297
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I also use 3/4 to 1.5 mostly. Smillin Bill usually with long white curly tails but occasionally pork rind. White mostly but sometimes yellow and wine red.
I hit fish on cutty 2 years ago at a spot where people fished heavily for 2 nights previously and they didn't do that well. I had a decent time on bucktails until the tide turned.
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03-13-2015, 02:39 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 2,120
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I love bucktailing.
If you do not have John Skinners book on bucktailing......get it.
It really made a huge difference for me.
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03-13-2015, 04:37 PM
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Red Eye Jedi
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: East Facing
Posts: 4,374
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I like 1 -1.5oz white smiling bill bucktails with red pork rind for fishing the whitewater...
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03-13-2015, 05:19 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Chasing fat girls in the dark
Posts: 961
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Andrus jetty casters or rip splitters in red black and white. Add pork green on white red on black and red. "Shallow" sweeping water. Just low enough to bump the occasional rock. Fished like a riggie. Weighted for location.
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03-13-2015, 05:26 PM
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xxx
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Playin' in the Dark
Posts: 2,407
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I usually us 3/4, occasionally 1 oz. andrus jetty caster or blue frog. White. #50 pork in red/white or white. 10 ft light action rod (1201L) helps keep it up in shallow rocks.
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03-13-2015, 06:12 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Libtardia
Posts: 21,694
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My favorite is the old south county secret weapon... A 1 ounce white with white pork under a casting egg.. Dropper leader length is about 2 feet. No egg? Use a popper and tie the leader to the tail.
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03-13-2015, 06:13 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Libtardia
Posts: 21,694
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South side of cuttty screams for the egg at high tide.
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03-13-2015, 06:31 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 91
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hey ross my father and I throw alot of bucktails all over our area and do quite well any were from 3/4 to maybe 1 1/2oz from the boat.
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03-14-2015, 06:59 AM
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xxx
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Playin' in the Dark
Posts: 2,407
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Highly recommend the bucktail books by skinner and doc muller
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03-14-2015, 07:40 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Attleboro, MA
Posts: 453
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I used Bucktails 99% of the time last year....the fish loved them. I used 1 oz white with a chartreuse curly tail grub (like 3 or 4"). Relatively cheap and cast a mile on light tackle. Heck, I didn't even have to jig them.....just cast and reel, the curly tail grub provided the action!!
We were fishing an area last year with a few other boats in the area....we were throwing bucktails and consistently catching. They were throwing plugs, spoons, and rubber......and we were the only ones catching. A few boats came up to us curious on what we were using. Bottom line, they work. And you don't need to be an expert.
Now if I could only make the ones I tie look as good as the ones I buy.....
Oh and the blues ravage them. After a couple bluefish, you can say bye-bye to the bucktail hair. But, save the lead head an hook, and try tying some up yourself. Unfortunately, I can't give you any tips there. I suck at tying bucktails.
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03-14-2015, 08:33 AM
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Seldom Seen
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 10,543
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I really like the Joe Baggs head design. Looks right to my eye. Just need to get a hold of him, as I am not a FB member. His soft plastic jig head is of interest to me as well.... Guess I better locate those bucktailing books too.
I might even try tying a few as well. Probably after locating said books
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03-14-2015, 09:13 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 2,120
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nightfighter
I really like the Joe Baggs head design. Looks right to my eye. Just need to get a hold of him, as I am not a FB member. His soft plastic jig head is of interest to me as well.... Guess I better locate those bucktailing books too.
I might even try tying a few as well. Probably after locating said books
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he is a member here on sb.
joebaggs99
I will pm you his email.
As for bucktail types. I kind of like Skinner's philosophy on them.
They all work but each may have conditions where one outshines
another. If you read his book, you will get the details.
I pretty much stick with joebaggs, andrus, and bluefrog. Each type
has attributes that I like and use them all. Bullet or split.
What I like most about Joebaggs is that they are sort of like an
andrus jettycaster but with a much bigger and beefier
hook...especially in the smaller weights. It makes releasing the fish
much easier and it can cull out the micro nibblers. I also like that he is
a local to MA....and a great guy.
His naked jig heads are the best I know of.
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03-18-2015, 05:22 PM
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FyshhTrap
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: upper N.Y. state area
Posts: 92
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Bucktails
Wow, lotta great info as always, I was surprised at the wgt. that most used for the surf and jetties, now I know. Bucktails are a go to for me, I mostly river fish the upper Hudson spawn run in spring. Try a bunch out. I tie a lot of my own in crazy colors,size and length, but white is a go color for me. check out my jigs in my pics!
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03-18-2015, 06:56 PM
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Red Eye Jedi
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: East Facing
Posts: 4,374
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I wish joebaggs would make a smiling bill bucktail
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03-19-2015, 09:41 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Shrewsbury,ma
Posts: 369
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I use canal specials from M&D's in the 3&4oz. sizes. Use sloggos, savage bodies, or eel bodies with them.
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Big Daddy-Bob Sr.
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03-19-2015, 10:45 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: RI
Posts: 677
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Would someone care to post some pics of JB bucktails please.
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A brother of the angle
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03-19-2015, 11:49 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 2,120
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cow tamer
Would someone care to post some pics of JB bucktails please.
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google is your friend for these sorts of queries....
looking at the images of them....it reminds me of another thing I like
about them. They have a huge hookeye that makes it easier to use
with TA clips. Some smaller weight bucks (under 1 oz) on the other
brands have a tiny hookeye and often will be even smaller because
of the powdercoat/paint clog. Having a bigger hookeye translates
for a free-er motion....which equals good.
if you facebook...
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Joeba...57208321020661

saltwateredge has them....
http://www.saltwateredge.com/joebaggs-bucktails.html
a thread with all sorts of pics...
http://www.thehulltruth.com/fishing-...rly-tails.html
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03-20-2015, 08:42 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: MASS. I miss CT
Posts: 213
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Hi guys,
Thanks for all the great reviews. If anyone has any questions please feel free to PM any time. Many pictures can be found by googling joebaggs bucktails or finding my page on FB called joebaggs bucktails. I mostly make bullet jigs but can make smiling bills if asked.
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03-20-2015, 04:15 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Somerset MA
Posts: 9,376
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I have zero faith in Bucktails!! its sad I know .. I have a few in the bag in case
But the spots I fish have lures already assigned based on past success
Bucktails catch no doubt but I don't see them any better than other tool in my fishing tool bag ..
With that being said if i didn't care what fish I caught.
a buck tail would be my 1st choice hands down
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03-20-2015, 04:20 PM
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It's about respect baby!
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: ri
Posts: 6,358
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You dont always want them to sink, try stuffing the body of a grub tail right up to the collar, cut off the grub tail and add a pork trailer. Trying for that neutral bouyancy 😉
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03-20-2015, 04:55 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Libtardia
Posts: 21,694
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I'll take a storm shad over a buck tail any time the current is under 3 knots
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