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07-06-2017, 02:59 PM
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Always a Rookie
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: South Shore Long Island, NY
Posts: 475
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Fishfinder reading help
Just came back after a few days at sea. Captain was targeting Scup and Sea Bass. When we went over structure and found the mound of fish we wanted, we would go through the process of anchoring and backing down on the spot we just marked.
Though, once we went over the exact spot, the fishfinder just showed the bottom as flat no matter how many times we would go back over it.
Is this normal? I would think that it would show the structure the whole time you sit over it instead of scrolling ahead as if we were moving.
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"Your first word was "Fishing", not "Mom", not "Dad", "FISHING." - Mom
Black, White, Chartreuse/Parrot = the Holy Trinity
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07-06-2017, 06:22 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: marshfield
Posts: 3,620
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Most traditional fish finders will only show a very small area directly under the transducer. In 30' of water your only looking at a bedroom sized area of the bottom. u might have been just off to the side or uptide of the structure
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07-06-2017, 08:06 PM
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Pete K.
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 2,953
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I have a Garmin GPS/fish finder on my boat and after 8 years I still have NO CLUE how any of it works... I use it for depth and coming in in the fog... thats it. It always shows fish icons which I'm convinced is all mis-reads of seaweed clumps... I have never found fish with it. I 'm a tech moron. I read the directions but after a while it sounds like blah blah... (did I mention I'm a surfcaster that just happens to also own a boat? hahaha)
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07-06-2017, 08:59 PM
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Ledge Runner Baits
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: I live in a house, but my soul is at sea.
Posts: 8,620
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The new fish finders with CHIRP are extremely good at showing structure and fish; even when you don't even fine tune them. But like anything you need to learn how to use them and as suggested the cone in shallow water is very small, so getting on a piece of relatively small structure isn't always as easy as turning the boat around. It's very helpful if you set up your charting program to lay down trails, that I find is the best tool to retrace and hopefully find a piece of structure or fish you might have just gone over.
I had a good tog spot that was nothing more than a large bolder in otherwise featureless water and even though it was as wide as my CC, at times it was frustrating to find it and in a wind anchor up so you were dropping crabs beside it. Sometimes I'd have to reset a few times to determine the drift, scope needed, but it was always worth the effort in yummy filets.
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07-06-2017, 09:38 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 1,044
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Speaking of fish finders and how to read them. Take a guess at what this is. Found it lurking off the rock wall near Newport navy base.
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07-06-2017, 10:56 PM
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Idiot
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Glastonbury, CT
Posts: 2,287
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cool Beans
Speaking of fish finders and how to read them. Take a guess at what this is. Found it lurking off the rock wall near Newport navy base.
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A giant glass bong?
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The artist formerly known as Scratch59.
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07-07-2017, 04:42 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Marshfield, MA
Posts: 1,749
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This is why you see allot of 'southern; boats like from Conn and LI with the 'T' set up with twin anchors on the bow sprit.
You can really dial in on the spot precisely. take in on the part anchor slack the stbd and boom you on it. period.
I don't like the look of that setup. But it is effective on bottom fishing like bsb and tog......
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Jon, 24' Nauset-Green Topsides, Beamie, North River. Channel 68/69. MSBA, NIBA
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07-06-2017, 10:13 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Bethany CT
Posts: 2,883
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Loch Ness monster?
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07-07-2017, 06:17 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 1,044
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zimmy
Loch Ness monster?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ian
A giant glass bong?
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This was after 5 days of stormy weather (few years ago) that kept me from checking my lobster pots, which were set along the wall at between 20 and 24 feet deep. (up until to this point I only used 2 bricks in my pots)
If you notice "Nessie" is just over 20 feet tall.... That was one of my pots that got pushed out into deeper water by the current with about 80 pounds of moss and seaweed wrapped around the rope.
I had to use a grapple and a lot of patience, but I did get 4 of my 5 pots back that day. "Nessie" here was the one I couldn't get....
She's still out there somewhere.
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07-07-2017, 06:57 AM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Somewhere between OOB & west of Watch Hill
Posts: 35,272
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cool Beans
This was after 5 days of stormy weather (few years ago) that kept me from checking my lobster pots, which were set along the wall at between 20 and 24 feet deep. (up until to this point I only used 2 bricks in my pots)
If you notice "Nessie" is just over 20 feet tall.... That was one of my pots that got pushed out into deeper water by the current with about 80 pounds of moss and seaweed wrapped around the rope.
I had to use a grapple and a lot of patience, but I did get 4 of my 5 pots back that day. "Nessie" here was the one I couldn't get....
She's still out there somewhere.
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Looks like Balney, the Red Chinese Dinosaur Signals Intelligence Device off NUWC
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~Fix the Bait~ ~Pogies Forever~
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07-07-2017, 04:57 AM
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User
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Cape Cod
Posts: 5,515
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Side view rules, you'll find good bottom in no time, staying on it is another story.
With anchor set I've stayed in reverse gear to maintain a spot...
Tog are coming! :-)
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07-07-2017, 08:49 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 381
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You really need to be moving to see "structure" the difference in depth as you move will present as a hump, once you stop you are just looking at a spot especially in shallow water.
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07-11-2017, 05:02 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: marshfield
Posts: 3,620
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Navionics and simrad have lots of tutorials on getting the most out of your electronics. Most folks don't have a clue what they can do
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07-12-2017, 12:20 PM
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Always a Rookie
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: South Shore Long Island, NY
Posts: 475
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Quote:
Originally Posted by niko
Navionics and simrad have lots of tutorials on getting the most out of your electronics. Most folks don't have a clue what they can do
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Navionics is useless for my FF for where I live (and stupid expensive!), the Captain has a Garmin but where the manual for that sucker is I shudder just thinking about it. He has another unit that does side imaging but I'm not sure if it is in tandem with his FF.
Computers, computers, computers....
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"Your first word was "Fishing", not "Mom", not "Dad", "FISHING." - Mom
Black, White, Chartreuse/Parrot = the Holy Trinity
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07-12-2017, 10:24 AM
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Too old to give a....
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 2,505
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But aren't they smiley faced fish icons?
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07-17-2017, 07:57 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: NBPT
Posts: 415
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My new fish finder only has fish symbols no arches
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07-17-2017, 09:53 AM
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Very Grumpy bay man
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 10,824
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Poncho
My new fish finder only has fish symbols no arches
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No worries Poncho. I would guess that there are some "elitist" on the site that just think icons are for us rookies.
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No boat, back in the suds. 
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07-12-2017, 08:01 AM
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#18
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Somewhere between OOB & west of Watch Hill
Posts: 35,272
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Pumpkins
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