even the right has its own cancel culture

[wdmso]

Jerry Falwell, a vocal supporter of President Donald Trump, said he would take an indefinite leave of absence from Liberty University in Virginia.

The college board did not provide a reason for the move.

Mr Falwell had conceded the Instagram photo was "weird", but defended it as "all in good fun".


lets see how this plays out and how forgiving the flock will be.. Are they on Epstine Island

[wdmso]

Seems all Trumps boot lickers spread the same message ... on March 13, Falwell promoted a conspiracy theory that North Korea and China conspired together to create the coronavirus.[20] He also said that people were overreacting to the coronavirus outbreak and that Democrats were trying to use the situation to harm President Trump.[19]


So china north Korea democrats and over reactors have all conspire d to Harm Trump...

Imagine that
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Seems all Trumps boot lickers spread the same message ... on March 13, Falwell promoted a conspiracy theory that North Korea and China conspired together to create the coronavirus.[20] He also said that people were overreacting to the coronavirus outbreak and that Democrats were trying to use the situation to harm President Trump.[19]


So china north Korea democrats and over reactors have all conspire d to Harm Trump...

Imagine that
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Not that hard to imagine. A bit over the top and unlikely that China and NK created the coronavirus together. And not likely that our anti-Trumpers are conspiring with China and NK.

But it's not hard to imagine that China was, at the least, unconcerned about letting the virus spread before it told us it existed as the monster it is. And it is not hard to imagine that China, NK, and anti-Trumpers want to harm Trump, and are doing it in various ways. Take, for example, PeteF. He's doing his darnedest to harm Trump.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Not that hard to imagine. A bit over the top and unlikely that China and NK created the coronavirus together. And not likely that our anti-Trumpers are conspiring with China and NK.

But it's not hard to imagine that China was, at the least, unconcerned about letting the virus spread before it told us it existed as the monster it is. And it is not hard to imagine that China, NK, and anti-Trumpers want to harm Trump, and are doing it in various ways. Take, for example, PeteF. He's doing his darnedest to harm Trump.

None of it's hard to imagine when the right loves conspiracy theories and when conventional information like Truth and facts fail to support their arguments they jump effortlessly to lies half truths and alternative facts and keep pounding a square peg in a round hole , and you and others get upset when Pete and others point it out ..

Petes not harming Trump. Trumps harming Trump. But the faithful are slow to acknowledge they've been played

[RickBomba]

Originally Posted by wdmso

None of it's hard to imagine when the right loves conspiracy theories and when conventional information like Truth and facts fail to support their arguments they jump effortlessly to lies half truths and alternative facts and keep pounding a square peg in a round hole , and you and others get upset when Pete and others point it out ..

Petes not harming Trump. Trumps harming Trump. But the faithful are slow to acknowledge they've been played

You know how the song goes, Wayno.

If you’re gonna be dumb,
You better be tough.
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by wdmso

None of it's hard to imagine when the right loves conspiracy theories and when conventional information like Truth and facts fail to support their arguments they jump effortlessly to lies half truths and alternative facts and keep pounding a square peg in a round hole , and you and others get upset when Pete and others point it out ..

Petes not harming Trump. Trumps harming Trump. But the faithful are slow to acknowledge they've been played

The Truth and facts supported their (the "right") arguments re the collusion affair. And more truth and facts keep coming out to buttress those arguments. It turns out that the real phony conspiracy theory was that Trump conspired with the Russians to win his election.

Pete and others are the ones who provided alternative facts that have been disproved (debunked, to use a word you like). And you and they get upset when I and others point that out.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by detbuch

The Truth and facts supported their (the "right") arguments re the collusion affair. And more truth and facts keep coming out to buttress those arguments. It turns out that the real phony conspiracy theory was that Trump conspired with the Russians to win his election.

Pete and others are the ones who provided alternative facts that have been disproved (debunked, to use a word you like). And you and they get upset when I and others point that out.

I know... no one spoke to the Russians no one lied about talking to the Russians
Trump never asked for Russian help .. none of it happened like I said alternative facts

Ps it was an investigation Trump and his campaign conspired with the Russians to win the elections. Investigation are what happens and none was found. Yet you'll ingnore obstructed justice part of it .

Cant wait for your take on his latest executive orders

[Pete F.]

The EO that Tweety is giving would have had the Tea party calling for his impeachment.
Understand what’s going on here. If Congress cannot agree then the President gets to do it anyway. Tax policy, social safety net policy, dictating to states unemployment policy, social security... no need for Congress. President/King gets to decide.
Will Tweety’s sycophants in Senate stand for this usurping of their power under Constitution? Are they going to allow destruction of checks & balances in this great nation? Are they ready to accept this new executive power from future Presidents? Speak up. I cant hear you.
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Understand what’s going on here. If Congress cannot agree then the President gets to do it anyway.

That is how the Constitution works. Next step is challenging it to the Supreme Court. Progressive Judges would let it pass if it is Progressive policy set by Progressive President and Congress. Textual originalist would not let it stand.

Tax policy, social safety net policy, dictating to states unemployment policy, social security... no need for Congress. President/King gets to decide.
Will Tweety’s sycophants in Senate stand for this usurping of their power under Constitution? Are they going to allow destruction of checks & balances in this great nation? Are they ready to accept this new executive power from future Presidents? Speak up. I cant hear you.

It is the Progressive dream to eliminate checks and balances. We have been trending Progressive in government for 100 years with intermittent bumps against it along the way. The Progressives have set the precedent for and progressively have made more possible this executive power (which is not new as you claim). After the Dems and the Progressive media, along with the Progressive Repubs, destroyed the Tea Party, they made more possible this nightmare that you seem to fear.

I have been speaking up, and you have not been listening, for quite a while. How about you speak up on how this destruction of the Constitution can be avoided?

[RickBomba]

Originally Posted by detbuch

It is the Progressive dream to eliminate checks and balances. We have been trending Progressive in government for 100 years with intermittent bumps against it along the way. The Progressives have set the precedent for and progressively have made more possible this executive power (which is not new as you claim). After the Dems and the Progressive media, along with the Progressive Repubs, destroyed the Tea Party, they made more possible this nightmare that you seem to fear.

I have been speaking up, and you have not been listening, for quite a while. How about you speak up on how this destruction of the Constitution can be avoided?

I can answer.

#TrumpForPrison2020
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by RickBomba

I can answer.

#TrumpForPrison2020
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Though that's funny . . . it wouldn't stop the Progressives.

[Pete F.]

Detbuch is defending Flynn's right to secretly negotiation with Russia in order to neutralize the U.S.'s efforts to penalize Russia for its efforts to interfere in the 2016 election. I suppose it's a "policy" choice that an incoming administration has a right to make.
Putin’s Puppet and his minions trying to create an autocracy just like Tweety’s heroes
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[Pete F.]

Most of the rest of the world favors Biden other than autocrats

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Most of the rest of the world favors Biden other than autocrats

Yes, well a true Progressive would be far more concerned with the rest of the world than merely in the state or city in which he dwells. Progressives want centralized governance, the more so the better. Just as they believe that centralization would more efficiently (with less of the obstruction the Constitution imposes) make possible a good government that is best capable of solving the needs and problems of all the people, they also believe that a centralized world government would more efficiently and better solve the problems of the people of the world.

Like Progressives such as you, we should all want what most of the rest of the world wants. After all, the rest of the world is so much better than us, and knows what is better for us.

[Pete F.]

Three days after officials confirmed that they have intel of a Russian interference plot connected to allies in Ukraine pushing corruption allegations against Biden, Ron Johnson has released a 5200-word, 11-page letter justifying his probe of corruption allegations against Biden.
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by spence

This is such utter horse hockey. Flynn was under an active investigation because of his contacts with Russians which the IG said was justified.

He also criticized the FBI's method: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...igate-campaign

The interview was predicated on his meddling in US policy and his cover up which could compromise him as the Russians could prove he was lying.

Funny, The Obama administration is shaking their heads at the lack of a Russian response to sanctions and dismissals, the reality is Flynn's intervening and this is no reason for the FBI to see what the hell is going on???

At the time that you say the Obama administration would be shaking their heads at the lack of a Russian response, the FBI, having eavesdropped on the Kislyak conversations would have known why and would not have needed to further see "what the hell is going on".

This would require the complete suspension of logic to believe, or just a corrupt attorney general.

Flynn didn't meddle in US policy. He meddled in Russian policy. He didn't offer to change US policy. He didn't offer to rescind the decisions on sanctions and dismissals. And he was speaking about the dismissals, not the sanctions: https://thefederalist.com/2020/05/29...against-flynn/

And it is a hoot to say that because of his discussions with Kislyak he would be compromised (subject to Russian bribery). Flynn would have known that Kislyak calls would be eavesdropped on. So there would be no secret that the Russians could use to bribe Flynn.

The FBI had not found any derogatory info on Flynn. So they set up an unauthorized interview with him in which "To better the odds that he would agree to talk and make inaccurate statements that could be portrayed as willful falsehoods, the FBI would not tell him the purpose of the interview. Agents would not formally advise him of his rights, as they would in a normal case, even if they were dealing with a real criminal. They would just buzz him with questions about what exactly was said, in conversations that had occurred weeks before, at a time when Flynn was having hundreds of similar conversations. They would press him about what exact words had been uttered, even though they knew the exact words because they had recordings. They would try to put him in fear that they could prove the falsity of his public statements about not discussing sanctions. They would put him in fear that he could be prosecuted for violating the Logan Act (an absurd suggestion, but Flynn is not a lawyer and many commentators were discussing this moribund, constitutionally suspect provision as if it were a real crime). In the hotly partisan collusion climate of the time, they would make Flynn understand he could be framed as a sinister collaborator with Russia."--Andy McCarthy speculation.