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12-22-2014, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
Who was inciting violence? Protests in NY and other cities have been peaceful for the most part aside from the Ferguson riots. I don't see an issue with a politician supporting First Amendment rights.
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Really? San Francisco on Black Friday...Cops shouldn't have to put up with this BS...
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12-22-2014, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Piscator
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I read about that. Multiple police assaults, stabbing, gunshot wounds, bonfires in the streets...
Wait, that was after the Giants won the World Series! |
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12-22-2014, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
I read about that. Multiple police assaults, stabbing, gunshot wounds, bonfires in the streets...
Wait, that was after the Giants won the World Series!
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Cute but don't deflect Spence.....this video was on Black Friday....protests and violence agaist police.
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12-22-2014, 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Piscator
Cute but don't deflect Spence.....this video was on Black Friday....protests and violence agaist police.
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San Fran...
I believe this was mostly peaceful but had an element create some issues that in both cases spiraled. Both were nearly in the same area.
The violence isn't right certainly, but this is what often happens when you get a spontaneous crowd. Still, the vast majority of protesters nationwide appear to have been civil. |
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12-22-2014, 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
San Fran...
The violence isn't right certainly, but this is what often happens when you get a spontaneous crowd.
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How on earth do "you get a spontaneous crowd"? "Spontaneous" suggests arising from its own motivation, not connected with preceding events or rhetoric. You seem to like this "spontaneous crowd" thing as an explanation to absolve those who could have prevented it, as in the Benghazi "spontaneous" eruption that killed our folks. |
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12-22-2014, 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
How on earth do "you get a spontaneous crowd"? "Spontaneous" suggests arising from its own motivation, not connected with preceding events or rhetoric. You seem to like this "spontaneous crowd" thing as an explanation to absolve those who could have prevented it, as in the Benghazi "spontaneous" eruption that killed our folks.
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You have a planned peaceful event with unwanted elements showing up and turning a march into a disorganized crowd where violence erupts. Not rocket science.
But any opportunity to bring up Benghazi we should embrace. |
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12-22-2014, 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
You have a planned peaceful event with unwanted elements showing up and turning a march into a disorganized crowd where violence erupts. Not rocket science.
Sorry, I wasn't clear enough. I didn't mean in general, but specifically the events in question? Did the unwanted elements just happen to show up? Or was there purpose in their presence. Were the majority of marchers saying "what do we want, dead cops" saying that by spontaneous accident or on purpose as planned. Who was the unwanted element in such a crowd? People who opposed what was being chanted? Yeah, I can imagine if a bunch of hard core racists were marching and singing racial epithets, spontaneously mind you, and some peaceful little guy got in the middle of it pleading for tolerance, the racists might spontaneously beat the crap out of him. But I think the racists would not consider the beating just some spontaneous event, but rather a justified retaliation against a deliberate provocation. However possible it could be that some one would accidentally insert himself into a major demonstration which is already filled with reactionary emotion, and then accidentally say or do something to further provoke the demonstrators, however possible that might be, I find it hard to believe in these events. My suspicion, however wrong it may be, is that whatever violence occurred was not spontaneous of the moment. But that it was done, not in the unconscious heat of the moment, but on purpose.
But any opportunity to bring up Benghazi we should embrace.
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Yeah, let's just bring up racism and torture any opportunity that can make the other guys look bad. |
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12-22-2014, 06:58 PM
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[QUOTE=spence;1059932
The violence isn't right certainly, but this is what often happens when you get a spontaneous
crowd.
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If you're going to quote Susan Rice at least give her the credit
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12-22-2014, 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by buckman
If you're going to quote Susan Rice at least give her the credit
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Good one! The prep school is paying off... |
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12-22-2014, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Piscator
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You sure that wasn't Oakland....I would have though San Fran would look more like this 
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12-22-2014, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
You sure that wasn't Oakland....I would have though San Fran would look more like this
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Ha ha...good point...you are correct, thanks for the clarification!
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