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05-13-2015, 07:11 AM
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Reset to default function on most phones...
Also many phones can be wiped remotely. I know as a Blackberry administrator for the navy I could remotely wipe any misplaced phone or if needed we could "brick them" disabling the operating system for stolen phones.
Trouble is if a phone is conveniently wiped then if the investigation changed from administrative to legal, then now you get hit for destroying evidence and obstructing justice.
Handing over a company phone is one thing, but nobody should ever turn over their personal phone, unless required by law.
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05-13-2015, 12:06 PM
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He may end up with one game, but possibly none after Kessler is done with them.
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05-13-2015, 01:11 PM
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He is not going to just take a 4 game suspension!
He did not lie, he did not deflate balls, had no knowledge of it and has been called a liar by Wells. I don't blame him for not giving them the texts, I would not trust Wells either.
He will appeal this but will never get back his reputation, the damage is done and that is a shame.
If it goes to court, he will not be worried about how Wells will interpret his texts because he has nothing to hide. The emails and texts would have to be allowed if it goes to court.
The whole thing is a mess
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The United States Constitution does not exist to grant you rights; those rights are inherent within you. Rather it exists to frame a limited government so that those natural rights can be exercised freely.
1984 was a warning, not a guidebook!
It's time more people spoke up with the truth. Every time we let a leftist lie go uncorrected, the commies get stronger.
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05-13-2015, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Slipknot
He did not lie, he did not deflate balls, had no knowledge of it
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No, no, no. we’re 30… 30, three zero.
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05-13-2015, 01:56 PM
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Slip also believes in the Easter Bunny.
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05-13-2015, 02:54 PM
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Also known as OAK
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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles
Slip also believes in the Easter Bunny.
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Tom can do no wrong, don't you know that...
I don't put Slip in this category, but I listen to WEEI, and think half of the fans they talk to would support Brady if he 'Ray Riced' Giselle..
I can just hear the call now 'Well Callahan, that Brazilian B---- clearly had it coming' |
Bryan
Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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05-13-2015, 03:16 PM
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Look, Brady cheated or someone on the Patriots cheated. Does the punishment fit the crime, NO. Should there be some kind of fine and suspension, absolutely.
So the suspension will get reduced to 2 games, maybe 1. The fine will get reduced to $500K and they will still loose their 1st round pick.
I think the more salient point is that Brady's reputation has been tarnished. Regardless of the adjudication, "you can't un-ring the bell".
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No boat, back in the suds.  
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05-13-2015, 04:44 PM
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I think the more salient point is that Brady's reputation has been tarnished. Regardless of the adjudication, "you can't un-ring the bell".[/QUOTE]
Pats fans can forget that "Greatest Ever" argument now.
Most of the country (except Pats fans) think he's a cheater, including plenty in the media all over the country and former players.
Than you add in the Belicheck Spygate episode, CHEATERS
Last edited by Raider Ronnie; 05-13-2015 at 04:50 PM..
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05-13-2015, 02:53 PM
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My issue isn't that Brady likes his footballs a certain way on the low end of the spectrum....its the fact that 31 other starting QB's in the NFL like them a certain way as well and its a Non-issue. Aaron rogers admitted he had his over-inflated and hoped that the refs didn't catch him.....non-issue.
...and to spend last week talking about how the report said there was no evidence at all that the organization and/or Bill B had any knowledge of it.....and then whack them with a million dollar fine and loss of two draft picks is complete BS.
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"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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05-13-2015, 03:48 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
My issue isn't that Brady likes his footballs a certain way on the low end of the spectrum....its the fact that 31 other starting QB's in the NFL like them a certain way as well and its a Non-issue. Aaron rogers admitted he had his over-inflated and hoped that the refs didn't catch him.....non-issue.
...and to spend last week talking about how the report said there was no evidence at all that the organization and/or Bill B had any knowledge of it.....and then whack them with a million dollar fine and loss of two draft picks is complete BS.
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None of the other 31 were caught cheating.
Big difference.
Kind of like getting a ticket for drunk driving and saying "I am sure there were other drivers over the limit that evening ociffer.
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05-13-2015, 05:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sea Dangles
None of the other 31 were caught cheating.
Big difference.
Kind of like getting a ticket for drunk driving and saying "I am sure there were other drivers over the limit that evening ociffer.
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Actually more like coming home and finding a speeding ticket in the mail and them saying "Well, you got home 15 minutes earlier than usual so you must have been speeding"
Because was he really "Caught"?
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"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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05-13-2015, 06:48 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
Actually more like coming home and finding a speeding ticket in the mail and them saying "Well, you got home 15 minutes earlier than usual so you must have been speeding"
Because was he really "Caught"?
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Um, you can take the Slip route if you choose.
It's kind of like asking about whether the tree on your house actually fell because nobody witnessed the act of falling.
Again,the rest of the country can lick my hairy bag. But I have difficulty believing any hocus pocus caused the balls to deflate themselves.i hope this doesn't cast me as sensible.
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05-14-2015, 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles
Again,the rest of the country can lick my hairy bag.
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Ummmm, it's 2015....you should be shaving your nuts.....
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"I know a taxidermy man back home. He gonna have a heart attack when he see what I brung him!"
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05-13-2015, 07:19 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
Actually more like coming home and finding a speeding ticket in the mail and them saying "Well, you got home 15 minutes earlier than usual so you must have been speeding"
Because was he really "Caught"?
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Um, you can take the Slip route if you choose.
It's kind of like asking about whether the tree on your house actually fell because nobody witnessed the act of falling.
Again,the rest of the country can lick my hairy bag. But I have difficulty believing any hocus pocus caused the balls to deflate themselves.i hope this doesn't cast me as sensible.
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05-13-2015, 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles
Again,the rest of the country can lick my hairy bag.
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Really odd fetish.
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But I have difficulty believing any hocus pocus caused the balls to deflate themselves.i hope this doesn't cast me as sensible.
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Brady wants the balls at the lowest PSI he thinks he will get away with pre-inspection. The colder weather makes them even lower. The league's sloppy processes and inaccurate gauges don't even give you a confident picture.
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05-13-2015, 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles
Um, you can take the Slip route if you choose.
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I'm not saying he didn't do it.....I'm saying I don't think this report really proved he did it.
The guy that got the speeding ticket probably was speeding to get home early......but did anybody really prove he did.....and should he have to pay that ticket. Would you pay that ticket?
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05-13-2015, 03:19 PM
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Think the Pats will be playing a little edgy next year ?
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05-13-2015, 04:04 PM
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The United States Constitution does not exist to grant you rights; those rights are inherent within you. Rather it exists to frame a limited government so that those natural rights can be exercised freely.
1984 was a warning, not a guidebook!
It's time more people spoke up with the truth. Every time we let a leftist lie go uncorrected, the commies get stronger.
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05-13-2015, 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Slipknot
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Bruce,
That picture would be much more fitting if Tom were a Raider, because thats how Al Davis and the team would have handled this situation.
Raiders...
"Ya, we cheated, FU, try to stop us !!!
Patriots,
Deny & lie like a politician !!! |
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05-13-2015, 08:15 PM
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05-13-2015, 08:28 PM
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That guy is a neocon whack job. He complains about Wells cherry-picking data yet he would give G'dub a reach around while whispering yellow cake into his ears. The whole thing is ridiculous top to bottom, but the reaction of Patriots nation is priceless. |
No, no, no. we’re 30… 30, three zero.
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05-13-2015, 08:37 PM
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Did the league make the Pats suspend the 2 guys or was it all the Pats?
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05-14-2015, 02:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaulS
Did the league make the Pats suspend the 2 guys or was it all the Pats?
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I'm still trying to figure out why these 2 got suspended. |
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05-14-2015, 03:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaulS
I'm still trying to figure out why these 2 got suspended.
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"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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05-19-2015, 05:54 AM
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I'm still trying to figure out why these 2 got suspended.
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According to Adam Scheffter, the NFL requested they be suspended, and the Patriots granted their request.
Like I said, they did nothing to the air
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The United States Constitution does not exist to grant you rights; those rights are inherent within you. Rather it exists to frame a limited government so that those natural rights can be exercised freely.
1984 was a warning, not a guidebook!
It's time more people spoke up with the truth. Every time we let a leftist lie go uncorrected, the commies get stronger.
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05-19-2015, 06:09 AM
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And now, Act 3 The Owners Meetings and Back-Channel Negotiations
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05-19-2015, 06:44 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Slipknot
According to Adam Scheffter, the NFL requested they be suspended, and the Patriots granted their request.
Like I said, they did nothing to the air
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So they agreed to suspend two employees who they felt had nothing to do with this bc the balls where deflated "due to science"?
Nice way to treat your employees. |
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05-19-2015, 07:30 AM
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Employees were fired because they were idiots, stealing sneakers and jackets!
If Brady is innocent the Patriots have really screwed this whole thing up by not simply having "the deflator" come out and say he was trying to get the balls to 12.5 and Brady didn't know he was doing it illegally.
In addition, the NFL has screwed this thing up from the start with false pressure readings being leaked to media, the Wells report accepting everything of the ref Anderson's testimony as fact, but the actual gage he used to measure the pressure. Some of the Colts balls were underinflated on one of the gages too.
This is so frickin stupid!!
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05-19-2015, 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
So they agreed to suspend two employees who they felt had nothing to do with this bc the balls where deflated "due to science"?
Nice way to treat your employees.
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No one said they agreed
They went along with it as requested, the NFL can't suspend employees of teams themselves.
What does it matter
Now Kraft is dropping the hose job they have received but Brady sure won't
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The United States Constitution does not exist to grant you rights; those rights are inherent within you. Rather it exists to frame a limited government so that those natural rights can be exercised freely.
1984 was a warning, not a guidebook!
It's time more people spoke up with the truth. Every time we let a leftist lie go uncorrected, the commies get stronger.
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05-14-2015, 05:41 AM
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How would Spence floss?
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