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buckman · 02-20-2016, 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso

So if you go to the wake and not the funeral your a scum bag

I guess no one here has ever done that??

Another example of... it's just that it's Obama

Conservatives block any nomination dont even Try !!! The Republicans Cheer

Conservatives Your not attending the Funeral ? The Republicans are outraged

Just a question but what do you think the chances are thy he nominates a white male ?
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The Dad Fisherman · 02-20-2016, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso

So if you go to the wake and not the funeral your a scum bag

I guess no one here has ever done that??

I guess Obama can't afford to give up a day's pay and miss work.

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Originally Posted by wdmso

Another example of... it's just that it's Obama

I could give a rats ass if its Obama, Bush, Clinton, or even Reagan.

You are the President of United States, a Justice of the Supreme Court has died......you go to his funeral PERIOD......Unless you have a VERY good reason not to.......haven't heard one from him yet.

Heard plenty from everyone making excuses for him though.

Funny, When I spoke out against Bush I was labeled a Crazy Liberal, Now I speak out against Obama and I get labeled hypocritical Conservative.......

I know one thing......I know an A-Hole move when I see it.....
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spence · 02-20-2016, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

My father always told me that wakes and funerals aren't for the people who died......they're for the people who are still here.

Politics be damned....you show the #^&#^&#^&#^& up. It's the right thing to do. Anybody arguing the politics of this are #^&#^&#^&#^&-ing morons....

Disgusted with this decision.....anybody that wants to argue it can kiss my a$$
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I'll bet you get this pissy when there's nothing but crushed wheat thins at the bottom of the box as well.

What's the difference between paying your respects to his family in the Great Hall versus a funeral in a church? Hell, if Obama went to the funeral people would be beotching the only reason he went was as a publicity stunt because he hates conservative white men.

I can just hear Hannity ranting about the security cost and why is the President wasting taxpayers money.

detbuch · 02-20-2016, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by spence

I'll bet you get this pissy when there's nothing but crushed wheat thins at the bottom of the box as well.

Apples and oranges. Different context. It's all relative. Depends on his perspective regarding the relative importance of wheat thins compared to Obama. No doubt, for most sane people, the wheat thins would take priority.

Hell, if Obama went to the funeral people would be beotching the only reason he went was as a publicity stunt because he hates conservative white men.

I can just hear Hannity ranting about the security cost and why is the President wasting taxpayers money.

I realize that's just sarc. Which is OK. As wdmso would say, we all should have the discretion to interpret--even in order to promote an agenda.

Even though your pissy sarc is not true, and you know it (my discretionary interpretation), I don't personally care if he goes to the funeral or not. I don't think his respect is more important than anybody else's. In fact, in my discretionary opinion, it would be hypocritical for him to attend the funeral. He has publically disrespected the Court, why should he pretend to care or honor the passing of one of its members, especially one he probably dislikes more than most others. If I were Scalia, I would not have wanted him at my funeral.

Jim in CT · 02-20-2016, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

My father always told me that wakes and funerals aren't for the people who died......they're for the people who are still here.

Politics be damned....you show the #^&#^&#^&#^& up. It's the right thing to do. Anybody arguing the politics of this are #^&#^&#^&#^&-ing morons....

Disgusted with this decision.....anybody that wants to argue it can kiss my a$$
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Your logic is flawed. There is a long history in this country of politics getting in the way of presidential appointees. If you think only the GOP does this, then please show me a picture of Robert Bork sitting on the Supreme Court. Both sides do this. It's common. Is that going too fast for you?

Now, the question of the funeral. CNN has been reporting that never in the history or our nation, not once, has a President failed to attend the funeral of a sitting justice of the Supreme Court. So as usual, TDF (who isn't a crazy conservative) is right.

So try to follow the bouncing ball...it's nothing new for the Senate to block a nominee. What Obama is doing, has never been done, not once in 240 years.

spence · 02-20-2016, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Now, the question of the funeral. CNN has been reporting that never in the history or our nation, not once, has a President failed to attend the funeral of a sitting justice of the Supreme Court. So as usual, TDF (who isn't a crazy conservative) is right.

There's not enough information out there to make that statement. The Chicago Tribune reported in 1954 that Truman sent flowers.

Regardless, this is only the third time it's happened in 60 years. They also didn't have the dead justices in repose until the last Justice Rehnquist in 2005. Since 1980 POTUS has only attended 4 of 10 justices funerals.

I'd also like to remind you you're likely voting for this guy...

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/...eral-if-it-was

spence · 02-20-2016, 10:05 AM

Just saw the funeral is at The National Shrine which has a capacity of 10,000 people. The Secret Service can barely keep wackos out of the White House and you think it's practical for them to secure this site on a few days notice?

Insanity.

Jim in CT · 02-20-2016, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by spence

Just saw the funeral is at The National Shrine which has a capacity of 10,000 people. The Secret Service can barely keep wackos out of the White House and you think it's practical for them to secure this site on a few days notice?

Insanity.

It's the first time in the history of the nation, that a president hasn't attended the funeral of a sitting SCOTUS justice. What that means is, Obama's predecessors managed to pull this off.

The Dad Fisherman · 02-20-2016, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by spence

Just saw the funeral is at The National Shrine which has a capacity of 10,000 people. The Secret Service can barely keep wackos out of the White House and you think it's practical for them to secure this site on a few days notice?

Insanity.

So the Vice President and his family are expendable?? No need to worry about security for him, huh.

I guess Obama never took in a ball game since he's been president.....those stadiums are sooooo much easier to keep secure than the National Shrine.
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spence · 02-20-2016, 01:53 PM

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So the Vice President and his family are expendable?? No need to worry about security for him, huh.

I guess Obama never took in a ball game since he's been president.....those stadiums are sooooo much easier to keep secure than the National Shrine.
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Certainly less of a target than the POTUS.

How much security planning do you think goes into a ballgame?

Jim in CT · 02-20-2016, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by spence

Certainly less of a target than the POTUS.

How much security planning do you think goes into a ballgame?

First time ever, Spence.

Remember the mass after 09/11? Leaders from all over the world in one building. Somehow, they pulled that off.

You can't admit that he's not going, because he doesn't want to go?

The Dad Fisherman · 02-20-2016, 07:30 PM

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Certainly less of a target than the POTUS.

So you think they will have reduced security for this just because the VP doesn't give them as many "Points".....that is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard

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How much security planning do you think goes into a ballgame?

So you said that National Shrine holds 10,000 people and the secret service can barely keep a few whackos out of the White House.

Yet they can put the president in the middle of a big grass field in front of 40,000 people to throw out the first pitch of a ballgame without a problem.

A place full of sports whackos that is serving alcohol......

But they can't risk it at a funeral service....

I take it back.....this is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.
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Jim in CT · 02-23-2016, 02:28 PM

Interesting. Back in 1992, then-Senator Obama was very emphatic that President Bush shouldn't nominate anyone to the Supreme Courtm that no one should be nominated until after the election.

Here is what he said...

"the Senate Judiciary Committee should seriously consider not scheduling confirmation hearings on the nomination until after the political campaign season is over. Some will criticize such a decision and say that it is nothing more than an attempt to save a seat on the court in hopes that a Democrat would be able to fill it. Instead, it would be our pragmatic conclusion that once the political season is under way (and it is) action on a Supreme Court nomination must be put off until after the election campaign is over. That is what is fair to the nominee and essential to the process. Otherwise, it seems to me . . . we will be in deep trouble as an institution."

So according to Biden, it is "pragmatic" and "fair" to block nominations until after an election is completed. And to do otherwise, would put the institution IN DANGER!!

Life's a funny old dog, isn't she?