Chicago riots cancel Trump rally

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

WDMSO and Spence -

I didn't ask if there are any Trump supporters who ae jerks (I concede there re many). I asked this - when was the last time a liberal speaker had to cancel an event, because of conservative anarchists? Why can't you answer? Here's a tip...if you are so confounded by such a simple question, it means you lose.

Funny, I went to this thing called google...typed in a few keywords and the first item was...

After death threats, feminist speaker has to cancel talk because of Utah’s concealed carry laws

Took like 3 seconds, you should try it sometime.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

Funny, I went to this thing called google...typed in a few keywords and the first item was...



Took like 3 seconds, you should try it sometime.

ummmmmmm..... "Her vocal criticism about the misogynistic representation of women in video games has invited more than its fair share of hate from defensive gamers and Internet trollers."

apples and oranges

[spence]

Originally Posted by scottw

ummmmmmm..... "Her vocal criticism about the misogynistic representation of women in video games has invited more than its fair share of hate from defensive gamers and Internet trollers."

apples and oranges

Yes, because the liberal gamers are all about misogyny and packing heat.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

Yes, because the liberal gamers are all about misogyny and packing heat.

have you seen what comes out of hollywood??....rap music??....pop culture??...etc....the answer is probably yes

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Yes, because the liberal gamers are all about misogyny and packing heat.

Oh, please enlighten me...other than your bullsh*t dogma, what's the evidence that conservative ideology is sexist?

[Nebe]

Same goes for liberals.
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Nebe

Same goes for liberals.
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That's exactly what I was thinking. Spence's sarcastic reply "Yes, because the liberal gamers are all about misogyny and packing heat" is actually true of some liberals as well. And, his highly subjective and verbally slanted verbiage does not really apply to most conservatives. Which invalidates his attempt to cast the gamers as conservatives. By his description it could be either some self described liberals or some self described conservatives. But it is not really characteristic of the majority of either.

[Nebe]

Remember the days of black exploitation movies?

But to directly answer Jim, no it's not. But do the research on the record industry and private prisons. It will make your head spin.
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[buckman]

I will have to say I find it ironic and hilarious that Hillary Clinton stated Donald Trump should be held responsible for the violence at his rallies.
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[wdmso]

Men its very simple when one makes statements at his events such as

"I love the old days, you know what they used to do to guys like that when they were in a place like this? They'd be carried out in a stretcher, folks," Trump had said of one protester. Then: "I'd like to punch him in the face, I'll tell you."
If you see somebody getting ready to throw a tomato, knock the crap out of them, would you? Seriously. Okay? Just knock the hell — I promise you, I will pay for the legal fees."

He also said that the young man who was sucker-punched in North Carolina had been "taunting," "loud" and "disruptive," and was holding up his middle finger — "a terrible thing to do."

And even his fellow Republicans see whats going on or are they just being liberals and being politically correct

America is better than this. We don't have to tear each other apart," Texas Sen. Ted Cruz said. "When you have a campaign that disrespects the voters, when you have a campaign that affirmatively encourages violence, when you have campaign that is facing allegations of physical violence against members of the press, you create an environment that only encourages this sort of nasty discourse."


Kasich said during a stop in Cincinnati that there's "no place for a national leader to prey on the fears of people."


This is going down a road the United States has never traveled but it has the potential change this country overnight .. for the good or the bad we'll have to wait and see

[buckman]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Men its very simple when one makes statements at his events such as

"I love the old days, you know what they used to do to guys like that when they were in a place like this? They'd be carried out in a stretcher, folks," Trump had said of one protester. Then: "I'd like to punch him in the face, I'll tell you."
If you see somebody getting ready to throw a tomato, knock the crap out of them, would you? Seriously. Okay? Just knock the hell — I promise you, I will pay for the legal fees."

He also said that the young man who was sucker-punched in North Carolina had been "taunting," "loud" and "disruptive," and was holding up his middle finger — "a terrible thing to do."

And even his fellow Republicans see whats going on or are they just being liberals and being politically correct

America is better than this. We don't have to tear each other apart," Texas Sen. Ted Cruz said. "When you have a campaign that disrespects the voters, when you have a campaign that affirmatively encourages violence, when you have campaign that is facing allegations of physical violence against members of the press, you create an environment that only encourages this sort of nasty discourse."


Kasich said during a stop in Cincinnati that there's "no place for a national leader to prey on the fears of people."


This is going down a road the United States has never traveled but it has the potential change this country overnight .. for the good or the bad we'll have to wait and see

I partially agree but it didn't start with Trump as this has been escalating over the past 8 years and President Obama has been fanning the flames .
Read Kasicj's quote again .
When violent agitators are deliberately sent in a violent response is predictable if not expected , even hoped for . I believe you are one of this hoping .
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[spence]

Originally Posted by buckman

I partially agree but it didn't start with Trump as this has been escalating over the past 8 years and President Obama has been fanning the flames .
Read Kasicj's quote again .
When violent agitators are deliberately sent in a violent response is predictable if not expected , even hoped for . I believe you are one of this hoping .
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I love statements that seem to imply all our issues are less than 8 years old.

[buckman]

Originally Posted by spence

I love statements that seem to imply all our issues are less than 8 years old.

Are you having a comprehension problem ?
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

I love statements that seem to imply all our issues are less than 8 years old.

Spence, we weren't this divided when Bush was President, not even close. The seeds were planted during his term, specifically, when the public opinion turned against the Iraq War, at which time all the Dems that voted for it, were suddenly saying that it was evil and immoral (that's having the courage of your convictions).

We have never been as divided as we are now. If Trump gets elected, it could definitely get worse, as he's more polarizing, and in a more combustable way, than Obama.

Obama's divisiveness is a huge reason for Trumps popularity. For 8 years, Obama has been saying that people like me are racist, uncaring hatemongers. Despite what he says, and therefore despite what you certainly believe, it's not remotely true. We're tired of it, and it's very easy for me to understand why the masses are rallying around the one guy they think will punch back. For some reason, it's noble and admiranble when Obama hits below the belt (we're all bitter clingers, all we do is "hate all the time"), but when trump does it, he gets called out for it. Trump is more vulgar about it.

Sharpton is at least as bad as Trump (worse, if your measure is body count), and Obama invites him to the Oval Office 90 times? Care to explain that?

[spence]

Originally Posted by buckman

I will have to say I find it ironic and hilarious that Hillary Clinton stated Donald Trump should be held responsible for the violence at his rallies.
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It's crazy right? You yell fire and everyone runs out of the theater. Who would have thought?

[buckman]

Originally Posted by spence

It's crazy right? You yell fire and everyone runs out of the theater. Who would have thought?

That's a stretch
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

It's crazy right? You yell fire and everyone runs out of the theater. Who would have thought?

Kind of like repeating over and over that "white cops are the problem", you can't then be surprised when white cops subsequently get assassinated.

I don't know who yelled "fire", but I do know who is endlessly blaming cops (Sharpton), and I know that Sharpton still spends more time in the Oval Office than the tour guides. And why shouldn't we all be appalled by that?

[buckman]

I find it hypocritical that Trump can be blamed for inciting his supporters to physically attack protesters but the false rhetoric of his opposition ( The media, established politicians , Bernie and Hillary ) are not blamed for inciting the protesters .
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[Nebe]

I'm sorry buck but show us where anyone that you just listed called for violence as trump has. You can't.
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Nebe

I'm sorry buck but show us where anyone that you just listed called for violence as trump has. You can't.
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I don't think Trump has actually "called" for violence. He's jokingly made reference to it as a response to violence or disruption directed at him. Similar to Obama's "call" for his supporters to bring a gun to a knife fight.

I would prefer not to be forced to vote for him, but if it's between him and Hillary, I won't just sit it out. I'll vote for him. I am politically opposed to what Hillary stands for. I don't really know what Trump stands for.

Hillary will have the full support of her party and its members in Congress and the Judges who already are in the progressive tank and those who will be when Congress approves her nominees.

Trump will have opposition in his own party and in the SCOTUS if he tries to be a dictatorial government control freak.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by detbuch

I don't think Trump has actually "called" for violence. He's jokingly made reference to it as a response to violence or disruption directed at him. Similar to Obama's "call" for his supporters to bring a gun to a knife fight.

I would prefer not to be forced to vote for him, but if it's between him and Hillary, I won't just sit it out. I'll vote for him. I am politically opposed to what Hillary stands for. I don't really know what Trump stands for.

Hillary will have the full support of her party and its members in Congress and the Judges who already are in the progressive tank and those who will be when Congress approves her nominees.

Trump will have opposition in his own party and in the SCOTUS if he tries to be a dictatorial government control freak.

"He's jokingly made reference to it as a response to violence or disruption directed at him"

Correct. It's classic Trump, and precisely why many, me included, don't like him. Though, like you, I'll plug my nose and vote for him if he gets the nomination.

"Similar to Obama's "call" for his supporters to bring a gun to a knife fight."

But when Obama does it, it's brilliant and eloquent. It's only crass when a conservative does it.

"Trump will have opposition in his own party and in the SCOTUS if he tries to be a dictatorial government control freak"

Thank God for checks and balances!

My fear is that if Trump is the nominee, he not only hands Hilary the White House, but he hands Congress back to the Dems (there are twice as many Republican Senate seats up for re-election, as Democrat, it's ripe for a Democrat takeover, House will be more likely stay with GOP).

[scottw]

Originally Posted by detbuch

I don't think Trump has actually "called" for violence. He's jokingly made reference to it as a response to violence or disruption directed at him. Similar to Obama's "call" for his supporters to bring a gun to a knife fight.

Obama also told his supporters to go out and get into peoples faces...punish their enemies...I'm sure there's more....Trump is truly the white Obama...(though he's probably more qualified to be President that BO, and an even better community organizer(agitator))... ...funny how some have a problem with that all of a sudden......

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by scottw

Trump is truly the white Obama.

Trump is 80% Obama, 20% Al Bundy.

Trump is a bit more crass and vulgar, but the tone is a LOT more Obama-esque, than you will ever hear the media admit.

[scottw]

"For five days and nights in August 1968, demonstrators fought street battles with Chicago police and National Guard troops, a badly split Democratic Party struggled to pick a presidential nominee and a horrified nation watched it all on the nightly news."


....lot's of examples through the years...many involving feces being hurled......what's wrong with these leftys???

[spence]

Originally Posted by detbuch

I don't think Trump has actually "called" for violence. He's jokingly made reference to it as a response to violence or disruption directed at him. Similar to Obama's "call" for his supporters to bring a gun to a knife fight.

Can't believe you had a straight face when you typed that.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by spence

Can't believe you had a straight face when you typed that.

So what

[scottw]

dems are funny...

from POLITICO- "Bill Clinton referred to Barack Obama as a Chicago thug during the 2008 presidential campaign. This after Clinton some years earlier had told Juanita Broaddrick, ‘Put some ice on that lip’ after she said he raped her.”

OBAMA’S VIOLENT RHETORIC

June 7, 2010 “Whose Ass To Kick”

June 13, 2008 “If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun,” Obama told the audience. “Because from what I understand folks in Philly like a good brawl. I’ve seen Eagles fans.”

September 18, 2008 “Argue With Neighbors, Get In Their Face”

March 30, 2009 “I don’t want to quell anger. I think people are right to be angry. I’m angry.”

August 8, 2009 “I don’t want the folks who created the mess to do a lot of talking. I want them to get out of the way so we can clean up the mess. I don’t mind cleaning up after them, but don’t do a lot of talking.”

February 28, 2009 “I know they [the special interests and lobbyists] are gearing up for a fight as we speak. My message to them is this: so am I.”

summer of 2009 Senior White House adviser David Axelrod and deputy chief of staff Jim Messina told Democrat Senators, “If you get hit, we will punch back twice as hard.”

2010 midterm campaign Obama urged Hispanics to “punish our enemies”

December 13, 2010 “I will be happy to see the Republicans test whether or not I’m itching for a fight on a whole range of issues,” Obama said last week. “I suspect they will find I am.

October 7, 2010 “If they’re successful in doing that, they’ve already said they’re going to go back to the same policies that were in place during the Bush administration. That means that we are going to have just hand-to-hand combat up here on Capitol Hill.”

....from CNN

"dozens of protesters disrupted Trump's rally inside a Kansas City theater, crowds of demonstrators gathered outside.

As Trump supporters left the venue, protesters shouted and cursed at them -- and any passersby coming from the direction of the theater -- calling them "f***ing racists."

Alicia Valeanzela, who was shouting those words at people she believed to be Trump supporters, said she believed anyone supporting Trump supports a racist, xenophobic ideology.

"He's a f***ing bigot. He's an a**hole," she said.

Among those targeted by the protesters' cries were the Toates family: father Phillip, his wife and their three children, including a 10-year-old son.

"How do they know I even attended the rally? They say Trump's all about hate, but we have not been about hate and that's the way we got treated when we came out," said Phillip Toates, who said he is leaning toward supporting Trump but is still undecided."


http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/12/politi...rump-protests/

Trump should call for term limits for Congress members and free mental screenings for liberals....it would be "AMAZING"

http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2.../donald-trump/

who is CAUSING the violence at Trump rallies?

[buckman]

Originally Posted by Nebe

I'm sorry buck but show us where anyone that you just listed called for violence as trump has. You can't.
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It's not that they call for violence but they knowingly target thier radical, historically violent and hate filled groups with thier false accusations .

If the maker of the video that according to Hillary and her state department could result in an all out assault in Benghazi and the death of four great Americans , then I'm sure you will see my point

If Trump is assassinated , a very real possibility , based on the historic violent and radical nature of the the groups that support Bernie, is Bernie responsible ?
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[spence]

Originally Posted by buckman

If Trump is assassinated , a very real possibility , based on the historic violent and radical nature of the the groups that support Bernie, is Bernie responsible ?
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I see you're parroting Trump's own nonsense now.

[buckman]

Originally Posted by spence

I see you're parroting Trump's own nonsense now.

I never heard him say that . You don't have an intelligent response I see 😊
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