Brussels

[Fly Rod]

Originally Posted by spence

Remember also that once on airport property you're on dozens of cameras, unless it's a suicide attack the deterrent is there. If you're radicalized enough to kill yourself the odds of you being on a watch list go up also...so the number of unknown yet radicalized individuals is likely not a huge group. Remains to be seen how much trouble Europe is in right now...

As U may have noticed security camara did not stop the bombers in Brussel only identified after the fact and the same would B here in this country as security camara showed the passing of the bomb from a Russian employee to another person prior to boarding Russian plane...once again after the fact ...there is no deterrant to stop a radical

[spence]

Originally Posted by Fly Rod

As U may have noticed security camara did not stop the bombers in Brussel only identified after the fact and the same would B here in this country as security camara showed the passing of the bomb from a Russian employee to another person prior to boarding Russian plane...once again after the fact ...there is no deterrant to stop a radical

Like I said, cameras with a suicide bomber don't mean as much. That's why they're focused on the possible non suicide person of interest who could have been there to see they didn't chicken out.
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[Fly Rod]

Originally Posted by spence

Like I said, cameras with a suicide bomber don't mean as much. That's why they're focused on the possible non suicide person of interest who could have been there to see they didn't chicken out.
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The only visual security at logan are state police shooing away people in their cars parking at the arrival terminal

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by spence

Here's a genius idea...

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016...rhoods-n543616

Certainly the best way to combat radicalization it to marginalize people because of their race/religion...I can't think of any better way to get more collaboration with the FBI and LPD...

And this is the number two, who can't be as idiotic as the number 1.

John Kasich is looking better and better every day.

Cruz is a moron as I said this issue needs to be resolved from with in the Community Him suggesting establishing a Muslim ghetto "this has been tried in History" he his trying very hard for Votes.. Fear it's what conservatives dish out. its their Banner

calling for law enforcement to "patrol and secure Muslim neighborhoods" in the wake of the terrorist attacks in Brussels,

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Fly Rod

The only visual security at logan are state police shooing away people in their cars parking at the arrival terminal

Boston Logan International Airport set a new passenger record in 2012 with 29,325,617 people passing through the airport, an increase of 416,350 over 2011

1 Airport in the country there is no security in the world that could stop a determined suicide bomber.. its unrealistic to expect otherwise


the key is intel prior to an attack , tracking ammo weapons explosives chatter on the internet general intel from human sources from theses communities

But I dont think many 2a guys would support some of theses control and tracking .. ( it would be construed as a back door on taking their guns ) they would happily support endless lines and intrusive searches on billions of travelers time and money more expanded Government in a feel good attempt to find the needle in the Hay stack .. thats just what I Think would happen

[buckman]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Cruz is a moron as I said this issue needs to be resolved from with in the Community Him suggesting establishing a Muslim ghetto "this has been tried in History" he his trying very hard for Votes.. Fear it's what conservatives dish out. its their Banner

calling for law enforcement to "patrol and secure Muslim neighborhoods" in the wake of the terrorist attacks in Brussels,

Yea we should allow 10000
refugees to come here instead , that would be a good start.
That's your sides brilliant plan is .
That should scare the hell out of you but you would rather "feel" like you are taking the high road
Why don't you tell us what the genius Secretary of State has done to minimize the threat of a radical Muslim attack .
Sorry ISIS keeps proving your side inept .
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[spence]

Originally Posted by buckman

That should scare the hell out of you but you would rather "feel" like you are taking the high road

The US takes in around 100,000 refugees a year already and many are Muslim. Those potentially coming from Syria don't get to choose which country they're sent to and go through a long vetting process. If your intent was to harm America it wouldn't be a very prudent path to take.

What really scares the hell out of me is that the top two GOP candidates are calling for the US to scrutinize people because of their religion.

[spence]

Originally Posted by buckman

Sorry ISIS keeps proving your side inept .

Wait, if ISIS is on the other side, and you're not on our side, that makes you on ISIS's side?

[buckman]

Originally Posted by spence

The US takes in around 100,000 refugees a year already and many are Muslim. Those potentially coming from Syria don't get to choose which country they're sent to and go through a long vetting process. If your intent was to harm America it wouldn't be a very prudent path to take.

What really scares the hell out of me is that the top two GOP candidates are calling for the US to scrutinize people because of their religion.

We have been over this before . What religion would you like to associate with Radical Islam Spence ?
The attacks in Brussels didn't happen because a bunch of Christians refugees moved in .
Common sense
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[spence]

Originally Posted by buckman

We have been over this before . What religion would you like to associate with Radical Islam Spence ?
The attacks in Brussels didn't happen because a bunch of Christians refugees moved in .
Common sense
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Great, let's put all the Muslim police, business professionals, military and doctors under surveillance...it's about the religion right?

Two of these guys appear to be known criminals both in Brussles. Issues here run much deeper than your whitewashing Islam as the problem.

Funny how I don't hear the intelligence community or law enforcement calling for religious bigotry, they want cooperation and intelligence.

[Nebe]

Psssst. Since 9-11 happened the largest mass killings in the USA came from members of what religion ? Think hard now and leave towels around where you are sitting for when your brain explodes
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[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by buckman

Besides ISiS wasn't even around when Bush was President .
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Sure they were.....they were called Al Qeada......and before that the Mujahideen

New name, New location, new game plan

The Cleveland Browns couldn't win a Super Bowl until they changed their name and moved
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Nebe

Psssst. Since 9-11 happened the largest mass killings in the USA came from members of what religion ? Think hard now and leave towels around where you are sitting for when your brain explodes
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is this another fun fact you got from whackjob.com?

[Nebe]

Grab your towels.
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[Nebe]

This one focuses on US mass shootings. In Europe all you have to do is know about the white supremest that killed hundreds at that youth summer camp on an island.
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/06/25...?referer=&_r=0
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[buckman]

Originally Posted by spence

Great, let's put all the Muslim police, business professionals, military and doctors under surveillance...it's about the religion right?

Two of these guys appear to be known criminals both in Brussles. Issues here run much deeper than your whitewashing Islam as the problem.

Funny how I don't hear the intelligence community or law enforcement calling for religious bigotry, they want cooperation and intelligence.

Yup just simple criminals . Enlighten us with your thoughts on these poor misguided souls agenda please .
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[buckman]

Originally Posted by Nebe

This one focuses on US mass shootings. In Europe all you have to do is know about the white supremest that killed hundreds at that youth summer camp on an island.
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/06/25...?referer=&_r=0
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48 since 9/11 , hardly a trend .
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[spence]

Originally Posted by buckman

Yup just simple criminals . Enlighten us with your thoughts on these poor misguided souls agenda please .
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I think their agenda was to find some meaning in life. The brothers had both done time for organized crime...

That appears to be the standard operating procedure. Target disaffected youth with a promise of purpose, material gain and opportunity, then when they arrive put them through the radicalization regime.

[Nebe]

Originally Posted by buckman

48 since 9/11 , hardly a trend .
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Id call any period over 10 years a trend
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[JohnR]

BTW - there have been evil Christians before, like evil Muslims. Does not mean all Muslims are evil and all Christians are evil. But I don't see many Muslims being efficient in confronting evil muslims.

However, radical Lutheranism has been curbed to manageable levels.

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Sure they were.....they were called Al Qeada......and before that the Mujahideen

New name, New location, new game plan

And a bunch of old names for 1000 years.

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

The Cleveland Browns couldn't win a Super Bowl until they changed their name and moved
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Cruz is a moron as I said this issue needs to be resolved from with in the Community Him suggesting establishing a Muslim ghetto "this has been tried in History" he his trying very hard for Votes.. Fear it's what conservatives dish out. its their Banner

calling for law enforcement to "patrol and secure Muslim neighborhoods" in the wake of the terrorist attacks in Brussels,

"Cruz is a moron "

Tell that to Harvard Law Professor (and hard-core liberal) Alan Dershowitz, who says that Cruz was the brightest student he ever had.

"Fear it's what conservatives dish out"

Oh, I see. So when Obama ran on "hope and change", that's not trying to make anyone afraid of the other side. And when Hilary says that conservatives are opposed to women's health, that we hate blacks, Mexicans, homosexuals, poor people, old people, blah, blah, blah...that's not fear-mongering. Got it.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

What really scares the hell out of me is that the top two GOP candidates are calling for the US to scrutinize people because of their religion.

So we ignore the one common thread that the jihadists share, and pretend that an Amish person represents the same threat as a young Muslim man?

Spence, they say that 1% or 2% of Muslims are radicalized. So here is a very simple, yet very pertinent question for you.

I give your kids a bowl of 100 gummy bears. I tell you that 1 of them is poisoned and will kill whoever eats it. How many do you let your children eat, before you throw the bowl in the garbage?

Have fun with that.

The western, civilized world will soon find itself at a very real crossroads with this issue. If peaceful Muslims don't want to force westerners to a place with horrible, yet morally obvious, decisions to make...they need to find a way to deal with the devil in their midst.

[Nebe]

Cruz is not a moron. The moron is the person who thinks he can trust him.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Nebe

Cruz is not a moron. The moron is the person who thinks he can trust him.
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Right. But it's un-moronic to trust the guy who promises free college, free world-class healthcare, and a unicorn in every backyard.

[Nebe]

I trust Bernie a hell of a lot more than Cruz. Yes.
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[Nebe]

Follow the campaign donations and you will see where all loyalty goes.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Nebe

Follow the campaign donations and you will see where all loyalty goes.
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All of Bernie's big donors are labor unions. Labor unions have done more than their fair share of damage to our economic/political landscape in the last 50 years. Here in CT, we see what happens when the politicians are beholden to labor unbions, and it ain't good.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Nebe

I trust Bernie a hell of a lot more than Cruz. Yes.
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Trust him to do what? Promote a socialist form of government? I would trust Bernie a lot more to promote socialism than I would trust Cruz to do so.

Originally Posted by Nebe

Follow the campaign donations and you will see where all loyalty goes.
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Cruz's campaign donors are far more diverse than Bernie's. So I would think that Cruz has a wider scope of loyalty and more people that he would be loyal to than Bernie.

[Nebe]

diverse in what way? Income range of evangelical tea party members ?
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Nebe

diverse in what way? Income range of evangelical tea party members ?
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Diverse as in "diverse." Yea, that includes evangelicals. And small business owners, and Tea Partiers, and bigger businesses, and Constitutionalists, and small government types, and libertarians, and some rich folks, and many average folks.

I understand that you think "freedom" is a buzzword of fools. I suspect that Bernie supporters would agree with you. Maybe the range of diversity for either Cruz or Sanders can be compressed into "freedom" fools on the one hand, and socialist lap dogs on the other.