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[Nebe]

You're wrong. I view campaign contributions and super pace as legalized corruption.
Look at Cruz's view on climate change. Look at who some of his donors are...energy companies. Hmmmm
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[buckman]

Originally Posted by Nebe

You're wrong. I view campaign contributions and super pace as legalized corruption.
Look at Cruz's view on climate change. Look at who some of his donors are...energy companies. Hmmmm
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Another sign of how brilliant he is .
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[buckman]

Originally Posted by Nebe

diverse in what way? Income range of evangelical tea party members ?
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Bigot
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Nebe

You're wrong. I view campaign contributions and super pace as legalized corruption.
Look at Cruz's view on climate change. Look at who some of his donors are...energy companies. Hmmmm
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So according to you...if energy companies give hige $$ to Ted Cruz, that's bad. But if teschers unions give huge $$ to Bernie Sanders, that's no cause for alarm?

Because again, here in CT, God knows there is no downside to the fact that labor unions own most of the Dems in charge!

[basswipe]

Originally Posted by Nebe

No no. How about we bring back the gladiator matches ?? Feed them to the lions. Have it take place in the center of the nascar tracks. Yes!!!!
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Hell yea!!!Jeff would make an awesome commentator!

Those trips up to Loudon twice a year would be so much more interesting!

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Nebe

You're wrong. I view campaign contributions and super pace as legalized corruption.
Look at Cruz's view on climate change. Look at who some of his donors are...energy companies. Hmmmm
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Are campaign contributions to Sanders legalized corruption?

And what is the meaning of "corruption" to you? Is corruption something that hurts your point of view or your desired outcome?

So Cruz is not convinced that climate change is fueled by what you think. Does that make him corrupt. Oh, that's right, it makes him a fool. That's really egalitarian and democratic of you. He doesn't seem to be in the tank for energy companies. He wasn't afraid to oppose ethanol even when running in ethanol rich Iowa (and won there). And he is not against alternative energy. Here's an excerpt from a CNN article where he "does support alternative energy, as long as it comes from the private sector, not the federal government."

"We ought to be allowing the private sector to pursue every form of energy because the energy of the future, it's not going to come from the government picking winners and losers," Cruz told CNN.

"We ought to open up energy innovation across the board and - and remove the barriers to every form of energy."

You seem to favor the authoritarian view of statists that government is the agent who gets to dot all the i's and cross all the t's. That definitely is the socialist way.

BTW, Trump, according to your view on campaign contributions, is the least "corrupt" in that respect. And he is not beholden to energy companies or any other filthy rich bad people. And his supporters are also more diverse than Bernie's. Of course, according to you, I would guess, Trump and his supporters are also fools.

But Sanders is all pure, and trustworthy, and will make things better for all of us. Except not for the fools.

[Sea Dangles]

So Belgium has an open border and want to give religious freedoms to all. How did that work out? There are parts of Brussels that the police do not patrol or control,fearing for their safety. How do you fix this mess without profiling and bigotry and racism? Who would not start by keeping an eye on the Muslim community? Is it unconstitutional to target those who are passionate about their religion? If a horse has stripes it is usually a zebra.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

"Cruz is a moron "

Tell that to Harvard Law Professor (and hard-core liberal) Alan Dershowitz, who says that Cruz was the brightest student he ever had.

"Fear it's what conservatives dish out"

Oh, I see. So when Obama ran on "hope and change", that's not trying to make anyone afraid of the other side. And when Hilary says that conservatives are opposed to women's health, that we hate blacks, Mexicans, homosexuals, poor people, old people, blah, blah, blah...that's not fear-mongering. Got it.

No thats the truth not fear mongering Conservatives are afraid of everything and everyone or have we not been paying attention ?

PS smart people can be morons.. cruz's statement is more than enough to make my point .. for a legal guy he has no issues doing illegal things like locking down Muslim neighborhood out of fear
The CBS hosts pressed Cruz on how he thinks it would logistically work to patrol 3 million American Muslims, who are not, as Cruz suggested, “ghetto-ized” in festering radical communities.

Cruz admitted, when asked by co-host Norah O’Donnell that he didn’t know how many Muslims lived in the United States.

“So you’re saying that law enforcement should surveil a number of Muslims and you don’t even know how many Muslims are in America,” she said.

Please note I am not saying this isn't a concern (terrorism) But it is Far from the 1# most dangerous issue America faces Unless your a Conservative a party where you can get Terrorism Immigration and weak Military and for additional introductory offer you can throw in for free Gun grabber Gay marriage or losing religious freedoms abortion or Planned parenthood>>> its like a comcast bundle all BS makes you feel like you got something

[buckman]

Originally Posted by wdmso

No thats the truth not fear mongering Conservatives are afraid of everything and everyone or have we not been paying attention ?

PS smart people can be morons.. cruz's statement is more than enough to make my point .. for a legal guy he has no issues doing illegal things like locking down Muslim neighborhood out of fear
The CBS hosts pressed Cruz on how he thinks it would logistically work to patrol 3 million American Muslims, who are not, as Cruz suggested, “ghetto-ized” in festering radical communities.

Cruz admitted, when asked by co-host Norah O’Donnell that he didn’t know how many Muslims lived in the United States.

“So you’re saying that law enforcement should surveil a number of Muslims and you don’t even know how many Muslims are in America,” she said.

Please note I am not saying this isn't a concern (terrorism) But it is Far from the 1# most dangerous issue America faces Unless your a Conservative a party where you can get Terrorism Immigration and weak Military and for additional introductory offer you can throw in for free Gun grabber Gay marriage or losing religious freedoms abortion or Planned parenthood>>> its like a comcast bundle all BS makes you feel like you got something

Yea anybody with a brain knows we should be more worried about climate change . The sky is falling !
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[spence]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

There are parts of Brussels that the police do not patrol or control,fearing for their safety. How do you fix this mess without profiling and bigotry and racism?

Specifically where?

[Sea Dangles]

Do you mean what street?
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[spence]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

Do you mean what street?
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Anything to substantiate your assertion is fine.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Anything to substantiate your assertion is fine.

Spence, in a general sense, how would you address this? By asking them nicely to stop? By apologizing for everything we did to instigate them? By refusing to concede that 99% of the terrorists are confined to a common set of religious beliefs?

In world history, there have been a small number of situations, where a small number of lunatics wanted to enslave and/or kill everyone else. I don't know that appeasement has ever worked. In the end, it's bullets and bombs that work. I don't like that any more that you do, I just concede the necessity. You will do teh same, only after a sufficient number of innocent people have been slaughtered on the altar of political correctness.

Your intellectual bankruptcy is beyond imagination.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

No thats the truth not fear mongering Conservatives are afraid of everything and everyone or have we not been paying attention ?

PS smart people can be morons.. cruz's statement is more than enough to make my point .. for a legal guy he has no issues doing illegal things like locking down Muslim neighborhood out of fear
The CBS hosts pressed Cruz on how he thinks it would logistically work to patrol 3 million American Muslims, who are not, as Cruz suggested, “ghetto-ized” in festering radical communities.

Cruz admitted, when asked by co-host Norah O’Donnell that he didn’t know how many Muslims lived in the United States.

“So you’re saying that law enforcement should surveil a number of Muslims and you don’t even know how many Muslims are in America,” she said.

Please note I am not saying this isn't a concern (terrorism) But it is Far from the 1# most dangerous issue America faces Unless your a Conservative a party where you can get Terrorism Immigration and weak Military and for additional introductory offer you can throw in for free Gun grabber Gay marriage or losing religious freedoms abortion or Planned parenthood>>> its like a comcast bundle all BS makes you feel like you got something

"No thats the truth not fear mongering Conservatives are afraid of everything and everyone or have we not been paying attention ?"

Yes, John McCain and Mitt Romney were a couple of hatemongers, while Obama the uniter has been mentored by tolerant love-filled folks such as Rev Wright and Bill Ayers.

Who are we afraid of, besides jihadists, exactly?

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

?

only ask them to answer a question if you want to be amused by the answer

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Your intellectual bankruptcy is beyond imagination.

Please elaborate on this, I had no idea???

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Please elaborate on this, I had no idea???

How about this...you are one of the very, very few people on the planet, who will not (or cannot, not sure which it is) admit that Hilary has an issue with the truth.

On this thread you actually chastised those who are willing to use religion as a basis for terrorism policy, when every rational person in the world can see that one religion is creating 99% of the terrorists who threaten global security?

Along those lines, I asked you this question...if I gave your kids a bowl of 100 gummy bears and told you that exactly 1 was poisoned and would kill whoever eats it...how many would you let your kids eat, before you throw the whole bowl in the garbage? Can you answer that question, please?

Now, human beings aren't the equivalent of a bowl of gummy bears...but peaceful Muslims are freely choosing to be a part of this religion, and they are freely choosing (it seems) to not effectively deal with this problem.

Now, what is the primary responsibility of any governemnt? To protect its citizenry against conceiveable threats.

Spence, during our kids' lifetimes, there will be a reckoning between the Western world, and Islam. Our kids will ask us why we didn't deal with it, they'll ask why we dumped this at their feet. It will be a fair question.

Anyway, to answer your request for elaboration...you refuse to admit that any liberal is wrong on anything, ever. If that's not thoughtless, I don't know what is. I know a lot of peopple who are similarly thoughtless, you are one of the sharper ones, and from what I can tell, one of the more decent ones. Your refusal to criticize anything that they do, is difficult to process.

[Nebe]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

On this thread you actually chastised those who are willing to use religion as a basis for terrorism policy, when every rational person in the world can see that one religion is creating 99% of the terrorists who threaten global security?

Plants don't grow without seeds. Find out what the seeds are that create terrorism and extremists in the first place and you will see that it isn't Islam but colonialism / Zionism and capitalism.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Nebe

Plants don't grow without seeds. Find out what the seeds are that create terrorism and extremists in the first place and you will see that it isn't Islam but colonialism / Zionism and capitalism.
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oh...no....we've really lost him....right over the edge!

[Fly Rod]

Should this carnage in Brussels have happened.....Brussels knew of these people since at least last summer and France too knew of their radicals prior to their attack...and as in California neighbors in Brussels thought their was something not right about their neigbors movement in and out of the apartmen they were in....nothing was reported to police of suspicious activity

Go to EL airlines in New york and U R scrutinized the moment U enter their terminal

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Nebe

Plants don't grow without seeds. Find out what the seeds are that create terrorism and extremists in the first place and you will see that it isn't Islam but colonialism / Zionism and capitalism.
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The seeds of terrorism and extremism were planted in Islam from its very beginning. We could say that terrorism and extremism are planted in the darkest chasms of human nature. But they rose to the utter surface in the founding and expansion of Islam. Extremism and terrorism are the basic modus operandi of Islam. Even today, in leading Islamic States such as Saudi Arabia and Iran, extremism and terrorism are key instruments used to control and influence. ISIS is a threat to existing Islamic States because it is a competitor against their control of Islam, not because it represents a destruction of Islam or bastardization of it.

If anything, colonialism temporarily blunted Islamic extremism and terrorism. And those who control Islamic States are no less interested in wealth than capitalists are. They have always been so, but they go about it not by producing, buying, and selling, but mostly by confiscation.

As for Zionism, I'm no fan or apologist, but it, not Islamic terrorism and extremism, has been a reactive movement. And it is not what planted the seed of terror in Islam

[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by spence

Anything to substantiate your assertion is fine.

It is not my assertion,I am merely passing on information that I found to be interesting. I have no link to offer, so you may process this as false seeing it does not fit your agenda.

Out of curiosity; do you doubt that Such an area exists in Brussels?
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[Sea Dangles]

I believe if you google Molenbeek and have enough time to read all of the articles,then you will find enough to see the information I forwarded is credible.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Nebe

Plants don't grow without seeds. Find out what the seeds are that create terrorism and extremists in the first place and you will see that it isn't Islam but colonialism / Zionism and capitalism.
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"Plants don't grow without seeds"

Wow, thanks. This may surprise you, but some zoologists now say that plants and human beings are, in fact, different.

Yes, we need to do a bit to win the hearts and minds, and mend some fences. But we're also going to kill a lot of people. Nebe, America has done more for Muslims worldwide, than any nation in the history o fth eEarth. Who helped the Afghanis fight the Soviets? Who helped feed the Somalis? Who helped liberate Kuwait? In addiiotn, there i sno better nation on Earth to live as a Muslim, than America. We have bled and dieds for these people. It's not enough. They want us to grow zz top beards and force our women to dress like ninjas and be illiterate. No, thanks.

So you're willing to do away with "capitalism" to appease the terrorists? Don't you own your own business for Christ's sake?

[buckman]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

So you're willing to do away with "capitalism" to appease the terrorists? Don't you own your own business for Christ's sake?

This is not a personal attack on Eben .

Most business owners that support Bernie are either A) not following the regulations . B) being paid in cash or barter , C) paying thier help in cash so as to avoid the hassle and cost involved in payroll or most likely D) all of the above .
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Nebe

. Find out what the seeds are that create terrorism and extremists in the first place and you will see that it isn't Islam .
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No? Islam isn't the root of terrorism?

Islam i sbased on the life and teachings of Mohammed. I take it you're not an expert on the subject. He was a bloodthirsty, greedy, barbaric conquerer. The Japanese your grandfather fought against, took a page right out of his book. He was a bloodthirsty lunatic who killed everyone he didn't like. And this religion is based on him. And you deny that the violence comes from within the religion.

[Fishpart]

Originally Posted by Nebe

Plants don't grow without seeds. Find out what the seeds are that create terrorism and extremists in the first place and you will see that it isn't Islam but colonialism / Zionism and capitalism.
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Interesting Article from a former Federal Prosecutor that explains otherwise with examples from the book.

http://imprimis.hillsdale.edu/islam-facts-or-dreams/

[buckman]

Originally Posted by Fishpart

Interesting Article from a former Federal Prosecutor that explains otherwise with examples from the book.

http://imprimis.hillsdale.edu/islam-facts-or-dreams/

Impressive to say the least
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by buckman

Impressive to say the least
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Damn right it was.

[Nebe]

Originally Posted by Fishpart

Interesting Article from a former Federal Prosecutor that explains otherwise with examples from the book.

http://imprimis.hillsdale.edu/islam-facts-or-dreams/

I see your link and raise you this one.

http://www.thenation.com/article/her...isiss-motives/
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