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02-19-2017, 02:27 PM
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#181
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Chris Blouin
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Warren, RI
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Painted some plugs today, musso Donny's that I did a jointed version of, weights drilled in on the ends under the thru wire, some odds and ends, like a pichney bootleg, random pencils, a some needles
Worked on some new paint blends, trying to get down a silver ghost 👻 ss pattern and a nicer parrot, getting closer every time
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02-19-2017, 08:38 PM
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#182
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Oblivious // Grunt, Grunt Master
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: over the hill
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Originally Posted by Diggin Jiggin
I Started painting the pencils I am refinishing this morning, it will be good to get those done and out of the way. Just going with 4 basic color schemes on those. Most of the pink will be pink mac's but I need to make a new stencil.
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Damn. How'd you wear out that many pencils? |
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02-19-2017, 08:53 PM
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#183
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: North Branford,Ct.
Posts: 7,588
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System 3 coat remaining pikes. Drilled out a few more pikes for spares and emergencies. Once they're down I have some mahogany Wadds to do.
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02-19-2017, 09:34 PM
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Idiot
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Glastonbury, CT
Posts: 2,287
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Bought a copic airbrush... me likey!
Also, what do y'all use for primer? I have Rustoleum spray primer and some alkyd primer which I use for trim and it sands nicely... for the resin stuff I don't need primer but I'm finishing/refinishing some plugs and want something easier to work with and that lays nicer...
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02-20-2017, 06:44 AM
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#185
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: North Branford,Ct.
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Rustoleum painterstouch 2 ultra cover. On the resin , u may need a primer to have the finish color to vond. Krylon fusion may do w/o primer.
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Billy D.
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02-20-2017, 01:51 PM
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#186
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Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: new bedford, Ma.
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The last few cans of Painter's Touch Ultra Cover I've bought have been different. Much thinner and runs very easily. Been forced to do two lighter coats.
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Nobody calls me Lebowski. You got the wrong guy. I'm the Dude, man.
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02-20-2017, 04:59 PM
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#187
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Oblivious // Grunt, Grunt Master
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: over the hill
Posts: 6,682
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I use and absolutely love Zspar marine undercoat. Thick as mud, put it on with a foam brush, dries overnight, grabs createx like Paul does beef jerky.
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02-20-2017, 05:25 PM
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#188
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lakeville Ma.
Posts: 14,773
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Ha. Where does one buy this mud.
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02-20-2017, 06:10 PM
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#189
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: plymouth,ma
Posts: 1,142
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Quote:
Originally Posted by numbskull
Damn. How'd you wear out that many pencils?
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It sure wasnt last year. Most of those had been hanging in the rack for quite a while. I usually beat up 1 or 2 of each color each year so doesnt take long to add up. I really havent done the canal day light stuff very much the past few years, sticking almost exclusively to night.
Funny thing is I think the only actual good day I had with top water last year was the day last fall I bumped into you and Alan. |
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02-20-2017, 06:52 PM
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#190
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Oblivious // Grunt, Grunt Master
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: over the hill
Posts: 6,682
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ProfessorM
Ha. Where does one buy this mud.
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Not sure why you'd care since whatever you use works just as well.
I'd buy it at any local marine store (Z-spar #105) but it looks to me like it may have been discontinued since Pettit bought out Z-spar. My guess is that this product is similar. I'd suggest you buy it and try it on a whole batch of plugs then let me know if it worked before I run out of the good stuff. Thanks.
https://www.jamestowndistributors.co...t.do?pid=97752 |
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02-20-2017, 08:36 PM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lakeville Ma.
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I just may try it cause I am going to experiment with some new to me epoxy they have an need to place an order.
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02-20-2017, 09:42 PM
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#192
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Idiot
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Glastonbury, CT
Posts: 2,287
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Quote:
Originally Posted by numbskull
grabs createx like Paul does beef jerky.
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Ive been reading this thread for 10 minutes and keep getting interrupted by my laughing out loud at this comment
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The artist formerly known as Scratch59.
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02-20-2017, 09:46 PM
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#193
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Idiot
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Glastonbury, CT
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Quote:
Originally Posted by numbskull
Not sure why you'd care since whatever you use works just as well.
I'd buy it at any local marine store (Z-spar #105) but it looks to me like it may have been discontinued since Pettit bought out Z-spar. My guess is that this product is similar. I'd suggest you buy it and try it on a whole batch of plugs then let me know if it worked before I run out of the good stuff. Thanks.
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The stuff you have, does it sand well?
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02-21-2017, 06:31 AM
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#194
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Oblivious // Grunt, Grunt Master
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: over the hill
Posts: 6,682
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ProfessorM
I just may try it cause I am going to experiment with some new to me epoxy they have an need to place an order.
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Great. Think how realistic your plugs will look. Just like a dying fish with the skin coming off! |
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02-21-2017, 06:35 AM
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#195
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Oblivious // Grunt, Grunt Master
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: over the hill
Posts: 6,682
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ian
The stuff you have, does it sand well?
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Yes, it is great after it has dried a day.
I note also that Pettit makes a high build primer that will go over epoxy which might be useful for those who epoxy seal their plugs.
https://www.jamestowndistributors.co...t.do?pid=97752 |
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02-21-2017, 09:26 PM
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#196
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: CT
Posts: 448
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I just recently ran outta Rusto Painters touch rattle can primer so was thinking of going the brush primer route. Was going to pickup some zinnser oil base cs then I came across this stuff while browsing the paint aisles.
I know it says above waterline,I think the only difference between this and bottom primer is the antifouling copper or other biocide additive I'm not worried about barnacles growing on my plugs..
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02-22-2017, 07:36 AM
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#197
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: North Branford,Ct.
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Ryan I'm sure any oil base primer works. I've use many and don't seem to have problem with acrylic paints lifting. Painters touch is my choice when I can spray outside and when force inside , Zinseer gold label oil base primer brushed works fine. 2 coats scuff with gray pad or 220 grit paper if you need to smooth out the brush marks. They also sell the Zinseer in spraycan.
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Billy D.
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02-22-2017, 01:06 PM
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#198
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: CT
Posts: 448
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Thanks Billy I'll probably go with the gold label Zinnser. Appreciate the help.
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02-22-2017, 02:24 PM
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#199
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: asthma valley, ct
Posts: 79
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was out to pick up some painters touch at lowes this morning and found
Rustoleum universal bonding primer- on the back it says it works especially well over two part epoxies.
I haven't seen it before but i dont epoxy seal. just a FYI for you guys that do.
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02-22-2017, 02:53 PM
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#200
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Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: new bedford, Ma.
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A few places are doing away with the Painter's Touch flat white primer and just carrying the paint which is supposedly primer and paint in one can.
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Nobody calls me Lebowski. You got the wrong guy. I'm the Dude, man.
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02-22-2017, 06:08 PM
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Chris Blouin
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Warren, RI
Posts: 3,330
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Quote:
Originally Posted by eskimo
A few places are doing away with the Painter's Touch flat white primer and just carrying the paint which is supposedly primer and paint in one can.
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That's what I use for 75% of my plugs
2 in 1 painters touch gloss. Under $4 a can and tons of colors
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02-22-2017, 07:40 PM
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Idiot
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Glastonbury, CT
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My favorite primer is Benjamin Moore Advance, but it's for trim... its alkyd based, so it dries very sandable... very few fumes (but not 0)
For the resin, I won't be priming, just airbrushing over the white left after fire, and clear coating after that.
Ryan, let me know what you end up with and how that stuff works out, I might wait to find that out before going one direction or another
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02-22-2017, 11:50 PM
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#203
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: CT
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ian
Ryan, let me know what you end up with and how that stuff works out, I might wait to find that out before going one direction or another
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Will do Ian. I'll let ya know |
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02-26-2017, 03:58 PM
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Idiot
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Glastonbury, CT
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Found out this morning that using chemistry to make plugs isn't quite as easy to reproduce as I thought. Somehow dialed in a recipe that I thought would be perfect only to find that the resulting plug was very different than I expected.
The good news was that I kept some pretty good notes and have a very accurate scale, so I'll just incorporate this into the batch of "learning opportunities"
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02-26-2017, 04:15 PM
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#205
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: plymouth,ma
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paint, wire, epoxy, cuss, repeat... 
Starting to think air brushing is mostly a waste of time for what I really fish. I think I might be better off just spray bombing base coats of white,yellow or black and then just using the air brush to go over those to add whatever else I'm adding. |
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02-26-2017, 04:35 PM
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Idiot
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Glastonbury, CT
Posts: 2,287
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Diggin Jiggin
paint, wire, epoxy, cuss, repeat...
Starting to think air brushing is mostly a waste of time for what I really fish. I think I might be better off just spray bombing base coats of white,yellow or black and then just using the air brush to go over those to add whatever else I'm adding. |
Arguably the airbrush is a waste of time for any plug that gets fished, but that doesn't stop most of us 
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The artist formerly known as Scratch59.
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02-26-2017, 05:03 PM
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#207
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Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: new bedford, Ma.
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The word cuss always follows the word epoxy.
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02-26-2017, 06:20 PM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lakeville Ma.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Diggin Jiggin
paint, wire, epoxy, cuss, repeat...
Starting to think air brushing is mostly a waste of time for what I really fish. I think I might be better off just spray bombing base coats of white,yellow or black and then just using the air brush to go over those to add whatever else I'm adding. |
Smart move. That is the problem nowadays plug builders are artist now and sell plugs by how pretty they can make a plug. If you fished white and dark you would be very happy at the end of the year I bet
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"A beach is a place where a man can feel he's the only soul in the world that's real"
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02-26-2017, 08:46 PM
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#209
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: North Branford,Ct.
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4 colors black, yellow, white, lime green. Save time and plenty $. But we don't. That's the fun of creation. Today boutique plugs is what the market bares. Fish don't care.
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Billy D.
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02-27-2017, 10:03 AM
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Very Grumpy bay man
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Rhode Island
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ProfessorM
Smart move. That is the problem nowadays plug builders are artist now and sell plugs by how pretty they can make a plug. If you fished white and dark you would be very happy at the end of the year I bet
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Very true. I am a master at the rattle can. I can do scales, 3 tones, overlays. It doesn't make sense to go crazy with an air brush. |
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