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05-02-2017, 04:33 PM
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Seldom Seen
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Paver driveway cost?
I am hearing around $15.00 a square foot....
What do you know? Anyone done one recently? I am trying to get the wife away from a concrete driveway.....
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“Americans have the right and advantage of being armed, unlike the people of other countries, whose leaders are afraid to trust them with arms.” – James Madison.
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05-03-2017, 08:49 AM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
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Is that installed including materials?
I'm thinking walkway myself....
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~Fix the Bait~ ~Pogies Forever~
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05-03-2017, 04:06 PM
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im in the middle of a 3,000 sq ft patio around the pool as we speak
i bought pavers and poly sand bags
labor to install pavers 7.00 sq ft
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05-03-2017, 05:13 PM
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Seldom Seen
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Jim,
Does that labor include removal of old material and base prep?
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“Americans have the right and advantage of being armed, unlike the people of other countries, whose leaders are afraid to trust them with arms.” – James Madison.
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05-11-2017, 11:21 AM
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Location: Hyde Park, MA
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You have to look at the overall cost.
Cost of all materials (which will include extras that you "might" be able to return).
Cost of demo and removal of old material (and any chance of an environmental impact).
Cost of labor including prep work (unless you plan on doing some or all of it yourself).
Just decide with "all your ducks in a row" and leave as little to chance as possible.
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I am a legend in my own mind!
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05-11-2017, 04:29 PM
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I have been given a cease and desist order from the Queen. She wants what she wants, and shook hands with the guy, so concrete it is..... Just won't let it push my buttons. I know where my bread is buttered and have it pretty good here.
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“Americans have the right and advantage of being armed, unlike the people of other countries, whose leaders are afraid to trust them with arms.” – James Madison.
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05-11-2017, 06:11 PM
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Super Moderator
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careful with the salt in winter
you did fine, pick your battles
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The United States Constitution does not exist to grant you rights; those rights are inherent within you. Rather it exists to frame a limited government so that those natural rights can be exercised freely.
1984 was a warning, not a guidebook!
It's time more people spoke up with the truth. Every time we let a leftist lie go uncorrected, the commies get stronger.
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05-11-2017, 06:29 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nightfighter
Jim,
Does that labor include removal of old material and base prep?
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yes it does
shopped around...got 5 bids....
I can share contact with you...guys are real good!
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05-12-2017, 05:01 AM
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Exposed aggregate is nice
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05-13-2017, 06:48 AM
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Registered User
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Location: RI
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I hear crushed clam shells are pretty cost effective.
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05-14-2017, 04:16 PM
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Hardcore Equipment Tester
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Abington, MA
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I just paid about 5500 to have concrete ripped out, loom removed base put in and 2" binder put down 65' x 20' drive way and a roughly 30'x 15' area at the front of the garage
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Bent Rods and Screaming Reels!
Spot NAZI
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05-25-2017, 11:15 PM
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Callinectes sapidus
Join Date: Oct 2001
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I hope you're talking standard concrete and NOT dyed, stamped and SEALED concrete?
I have both my driveway and patio done in stamped concrete.
Maintenance is very expensive.
The sealant (which I recommend be done every year) isn't the easiest application. Best rolled on, but more gets used which equals more money. Rolling it on is a bear because as you put it on, due to it's tackiness, is clings back on to the roller...you just never seem to get enough on. The first few applications are most critical. You want to fill in the pores so they don't grow. The bigger the pores, the more it will take to seal each time.
Don't get me wrong, it looks really nice when sealed properly, but the maintenance costs along with the cracking (it will crack) have made me regret it. I should have gone pavers.
If you weren't talking stamped, .....forget all that.
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... it finally happened, there are no more secret spots
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05-26-2017, 05:07 AM
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Very Grumpy bay man
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Rhode Island
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bloocrab
I hope you're talking standard concrete and NOT dyed, stamped and SEALED concrete?
I have both my driveway and patio done in stamped concrete.
Maintenance is very expensive.
The sealant (which I recommend be done every year) isn't the easiest application. Best rolled on, but more gets used which equals more money. Rolling it on is a bear because as you put it on, due to it's tackiness, is clings back on to the roller...you just never seem to get enough on. The first few applications are most critical. You want to fill in the pores so they don't grow. The bigger the pores, the more it will take to seal each time.
Don't get me wrong, it looks really nice when sealed properly, but the maintenance costs along with the cracking (it will crack) have made me regret it. I should have gone pavers.
If you weren't talking stamped, .....forget all that.
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If you are talking a driveway, I agree. If you are talking a walkway or patio, I strongly disagree. I have a 20X20 patio of stamped concrete and a 6X40' walkway. Both are over 5 or 6 years old. Neither had cracked. I use a sealer I buy from Contractors Supply in East P RI and it's about $200.00 for 5 gallons. 5 gallons have lasted me 4 years.
I use a roller to apply and the one trick I found out is to apply when it's not in the sun and relatively cool. Doesn't get tacky, doesn't bubble and goes on evenly with a roller. We love the look.
I have nothing bad to say about it but I don't know how it would work for a driveway.
The cracking is kind of interesting as we have NO cracking on both areas. The contractor cut relief lines into the cement after it dried so it can expand and contract with the weather.
Last edited by piemma; 05-26-2017 at 05:15 AM..
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No boat, back in the suds.
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05-26-2017, 07:50 AM
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Cracking happens when water gets in there and freezes.
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05-26-2017, 02:20 PM
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Callinectes sapidus
Join Date: Oct 2001
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Quote:
Originally Posted by piemma
If you are talking a driveway, I agree. If you are talking a walkway or patio, I strongly disagree. I have a 20X20 patio of stamped concrete and a 6X40' walkway. Both are over 5 or 6 years old. Neither had cracked. I use a sealer I buy from Contractors Supply in East P RI and it's about $200.00 for 5 gallons. 5 gallons have lasted me 4 years.
I use a roller to apply and the one trick I found out is to apply when it's not in the sun and relatively cool. Doesn't get tacky, doesn't bubble and goes on evenly with a roller. We love the look.
I have nothing bad to say about it but I don't know how it would work for a driveway.
The cracking is kind of interesting as we have NO cracking on both areas. The contractor cut relief lines into the cement after it dried so it can expand and contract with the weather.
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My driveway is quite large (IMO)....35x100, and I too buy my sealant at that same Contractor's Supply in EP...think it cost me $180+tax last time (5gal)... >>ouch>>....I never felt I had enough relief lines though,,, and through the years, it's definitely proven that.
My patio, 45x15?, was stamped with a cobblestone pattern. This makes it much harder to properly seal in trying to get the sealant into each crevice when using a roller (the cobblestone stamp was heavily detailed, strongly showing the lines between each stone)...I do use the proper roller (the fluffiest one) but it's still a bear to do and takes me quite a bit of sealant to apply properly....and yeah, I learned after the first year...don't do it in the hot sun...
I must say, I find it amazing that one bucket has lasted you 4 years...that's awesome. When I do both the driveway and the patio, I use well over 10 gallons, probably closer to 15 to be honest....??? That's almost 3 buckets a year! When you do the math, it's expensive...makes me think I'm applying too much, when I still feel that I'm not applying enough ...
**I also had a bad batch one year...a few days after the sealant had dried, most of it started flaking and peeled away. I went back to the store and they insisted I added a thinner to it to create more
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... it finally happened, there are no more secret spots
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05-26-2017, 03:19 PM
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Very Grumpy bay man
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Rhode Island
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bloocrab
My driveway is quite large (IMO)....35x100, and I too buy my sealant at that same Contractor's Supply in EP...think it cost me $180+tax last time (5gal)... >>ouch>>....I never felt I had enough relief lines though,,, and through the years, it's definitely proven that.
My patio, 45x15?, was stamped with a cobblestone pattern. This makes it much harder to properly seal in trying to get the sealant into each crevice when using a roller (the cobblestone stamp was heavily detailed, strongly showing the lines between each stone)...I do use the proper roller (the fluffiest one) but it's still a bear to do and takes me quite a bit of sealant to apply properly....and yeah, I learned after the first year...don't do it in the hot sun...
I must say, I find it amazing that one bucket has lasted you 4 years...that's awesome. When I do both the driveway and the patio, I use well over 10 gallons, probably closer to 15 to be honest....??? That's almost 3 buckets a year! When you do the math, it's expensive...makes me think I'm applying too much, when I still feel that I'm not applying enough ...
**I also had a bad batch one year...a few days after the sealant had dried, most of it started flaking and peeled away. I went back to the store and they insisted I added a thinner to it to create more
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I think the reason you use so much is because of the cobble stone pattern. I have a large flagstone pattern on both and the lines between each stone are maybe 1/2 inch or a little more. Being that large it's easier to put down the sealer. I use 2 coats but I don't use the fluffy roller. I use the 3/8" nap.
Oh, and boy I learned after year 1 not to do it in the sun. I ended up with bubbles everywhere. The other night I did the patio. I waited until the sun was behind the house and the patio was in total shade.
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No boat, back in the suds.
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05-26-2017, 03:43 PM
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Seldom Seen
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Pics?
The concrete guy has decided to pass on the project. No reason.... So back to pavers I guess.
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“Americans have the right and advantage of being armed, unlike the people of other countries, whose leaders are afraid to trust them with arms.” – James Madison.
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05-27-2017, 02:10 PM
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Callinectes sapidus
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Then, yeah...the paver (mason) price is about right/average.
I've seen it done two ways down in my area...$15 psft, cash deal/no receipt may lower it a dollar or two, depends on your negotiating skills as well as how busy the mason is??
I've also seen it $13 psft (labor)...then add the cost of the paver.....if the paver is $3.30 each, then you get charged $16.30 psft.
Good Luck Ross ~
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... it finally happened, there are no more secret spots
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06-02-2017, 12:29 PM
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Very Grumpy bay man
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Rhode Island
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Moles in the lawn
Never had these b*&*^ds before. They are making tunnels all over the front lawn. I just ordered some stuff from DIY pest control. Complete organic solution so it doesn't hurt the dogs.
I'll let you guys know how it works.
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No boat, back in the suds.
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06-02-2017, 07:02 PM
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Keep The Change
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Paul, call steve at harmony pest control or pete at winfield termite and pest, good guys i grew up with them both
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06-03-2017, 08:46 AM
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Very Grumpy bay man
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fishpart
Paul, call steve at harmony pest control or pete at winfield termite and pest, good guys i grew up with them both
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Will do my friend. You don't fish anymore?????
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No boat, back in the suds.
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06-03-2017, 03:58 PM
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Keep The Change
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I walk the several hundred yards to a private pond catch a few fish and wander home... No gas, no falling asleep on the road, no finding they were at x when i was 2 miles away.
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