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Old 10-27-2017, 06:58 PM   #1
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Kelly probably said something like "These guys know what they can happen and they in a way signed up for this and sadly know this could happen, so here is what I recommend you say to his widow..." followed by something proper and understanding.

And then DJT had flashes of the conversation pop up faster than his filter (hahaha) could process them and the words leapt out of his mouth.
Why would that even be necessary? And for Kelly to clarify? I thought Trump had called every Gold Star Parent...and now he needs coaching?

The man has been a CEO for how many decades and he needs help to console a military widow? Jesus, this doesn't require help...

It just requires a little empathy.
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Old 10-27-2017, 07:13 PM   #2
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Why would that even be necessary? And for Kelly to clarify? I thought Trump had called every Gold Star Parent...and now he needs coaching?

The man has been a CEO for how many decades and he needs help to console a military widow? Jesus, this doesn't require help...

It just requires a little empathy.
It may not be necessary, it may not be required, but it seems that Trump has always sought the advice of "experts" to accomplish what he wants to do. Is that a bad thing? You make it sound God-awful.
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It may not be necessary, it may not be required, but it seems that Trump has always sought the advice of "experts" to accomplish what he wants to do. Is that a bad thing? You make it sound God-awful.
Another log on the fire.
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Another log on the fire.
Why do you guys keep throwing logs in this frenzied fire meant to burn his house down. Not much empathy there. Mean spirited.
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Why would that even be necessary? And for Kelly to clarify? I thought Trump had called every Gold Star Parent...and now he needs coaching?

The man has been a CEO for how many decades and he needs help to console a military widow? Jesus, this doesn't require help...

It just requires a little empathy.
Hillary would feign shriek "WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE??"
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Hillary would feign shriek "WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE??"
Sexist.
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Why would that even be necessary? And for Kelly to clarify? I thought Trump had called every Gold Star Parent...and now he needs coaching?

The man has been a CEO for how many decades and he needs help to console a military widow? Jesus, this doesn't require help...

It just requires a little empathy.

Ohh he lies, he is just not anywhere as competent at clearing up the lying as his predecessor and he doesn't have the benefit of the media that generally covered Obama favorably.

Had Obama been a real centrist or a moderate rather than a progressive he could have been great - he was just great to his fans.

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Ohh he lies, he is just not anywhere as competent at clearing up the lying as his predecessor and he doesn't have the benefit of the media that generally covered Obama favorably.

Had Obama been a real centrist or a moderate rather than a progressive he could have been great - he was just great to his fans.
What did Obama ever lie about?
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What did Obama ever lie about?
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  • “If you like your health-care plan, you can keep it”
  • “If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor.”
  • Benghazi was result of a video (it was a planned attack by local forces )
  • Calling ISIS the JV team and then saying he didn't
  • “I will not sign a plan that adds one dime to our deficits, now or in the future.”
  • “I’m proud of the fact that with two weeks to go, we’re probably the first administration in modern history that hasn’t had a major scandal in the White House.”
  • That the Obama Administration will be the most Transparent, ever.
  • He certainly lied on Hillary's email server - he knew.
  • And of course this winner: Hillary is most qualified presidential candidate in history

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  • “If you like your health-care plan, you can keep it”
  • “If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor.”
  • Benghazi was result of a video (it was a planned attack by local forces )
  • Calling ISIS the JV team and then saying he didn't
  • “I will not sign a plan that adds one dime to our deficits, now or in the future.”
  • “I’m proud of the fact that with two weeks to go, we’re probably the first administration in modern history that hasn’t had a major scandal in the White House.”
  • That the Obama Administration will be the most Transparent, ever.
  • He certainly lied on Hillary's email server - he knew.
  • And of course this winner: Hillary is most qualified presidential candidate in history
None of those are lies.
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Old 10-28-2017, 06:30 PM   #11
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None of those are lies.
He sure was wrong a lot, about some big things. Possibly not lies, but a lot of yuuge mistakes.

How about when he said the McCain campaign was going to make people afraid that Obama was black?
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Old 10-28-2017, 09:41 PM   #12
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None of those are lies.
So you're saying he was stupid?
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Old 10-29-2017, 07:37 AM   #13
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So you're saying he was stupid?
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This is what is known, as backing someone into a corner, from which there is literally no escape.
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Old 10-29-2017, 09:57 AM   #14
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So you're saying he was stupid?
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Bad info. Things change. Etc...
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Easier to list what he did NOT lie about!


He certainly did not try to tell the truth about the IRS targeting conservatives. If you need links to timeline of his lies and cover ups, just search, it's all there on the internet.

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On The Daily Show, President Obama blamed Republicans for the IRS scandal:

“You’ve got this back office, and they’re going after the Tea Party. Well, it turned out, no, Congress had passed a crummy law that didn’t give people guidance in terms of what it was they were trying to do. They did it poorly and stupidly. The truth of the matter is that there was not some big conspiracy there. They were trying to sort out these conflicting demands. You don’t want all this money pouring through non-for- profits, but you also want to make sure everybody is being treated fairly.”

Really, Mr. President? For effect, perhaps he should reprise his testy “not even a smidgen of corruption” remark to Fox News. The President keeps claiming there is no evidence the IRS was used for political targeting. You be the judge:



And now the IRS is apologizing when they should be prosecuted not apologizing.


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He certainly did not try to tell the truth about the IRS targeting conservatives. If you need links to timeline of his lies and cover ups, just search, it's all there on the internet.
The IRS wasn't targeting conservatives.
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The IRS wasn't targeting conservatives.

Bull#^&#^&#^&#^&.
The Tea Party are conservatives and they were certainly targeted by the IRS on orders
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Bull#^&#^&#^&#^&.
The Tea Party are conservatives and they were certainly targeted by the IRS on orders
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Hahahahahaha nope.
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The IRS wasn't targeting conservatives.
Funny, the DOJ concluded otherwise, and settled lawsuits with conservative groups who were victimized. If Obama said the earth was flat, would you believe it?
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Funny, the DOJ concluded otherwise, and settled lawsuits with conservative groups who were victimized. If Obama said the earth was flat, would you believe it?
They found the IRS acted improperly out of convenience, not political motivation.
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Why would that even be necessary? And for Kelly to clarify? I thought Trump had called every Gold Star Parent...and now he needs coaching?

The man has been a CEO for how many decades and he needs help to console a military widow? Jesus, this doesn't require help...

It just requires a little empathy.
The approach that served Trump well in business (be bold, and if necessary, a jerk) doesn't always carry over well into every human endeavor.

"It just requires a little empathy"

For Gods sake man, Trump has a 4-star general who is a gold star father, as his right hand man. How on earth is it a character flaw, for Trump to seek his guidance, to make sure he is using the best words possible, when speaking to people who are grieving?
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For Gods sake man, Trump has a 4-star general who is a gold star father, as his right hand man. How on earth is it a character flaw, for Trump to seek his guidance, to make sure he is using the best words possible, when speaking to people who are grieving?
I thought Trump had spoken with nearly every family of those killed on duty? And now he needs coaching??? Doesn't make any sense. Oh wait, sure it does...it's called yet ANOTHER cover up story.
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I thought Trump had spoken with nearly every family of those killed on duty? And now he needs coaching??? Doesn't make any sense. Oh wait, sure it does...it's called yet ANOTHER cover up story.
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