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[Liv2Fish]

I thought history was to be preserved for lessons learned. Why would those wronged in the past want it erased? Makes no sense to me. This past political cycle, starting back in the beginning of the primary, through present, has had a fairly profound impact on me. I have friends, family and close coworkers on both sides if the isle and some who are affected by executive order. I've always leaned right economically and left socially, but what is going on in this contry lately has really caused me to think deeply about what is really best for us all, not just "us", the moderate fiscal conservatives that I align with. I can understand how it's offensive to many people to have to go about their daily lives around memorials to leaders who perpetuated what has long been deemed dispicable, but it makes no sense to me to want it erase it.
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[Slipknot]

Start accusing the Progressives who wish to erase the past of doing so with an agenda that they really want it easier to repeat history since their goal will be destructive in the end if they get their way. I can't believe the amount of sheeple in this country.

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by Liv2Fish

I thought history was to be preserved for lessons learned. Why would those wronged in the past want it erased? Makes no sense to me. This past political cycle, starting back in the beginning of the primary, through present, has had a fairly profound impact on me. I have friends, family and close coworkers on both sides if the isle and some who are affected by executive order. I've always leaned right economically and left socially, but what is going on in this contry lately has really caused me to think deeply about what is really best for us all, not just "us", the moderate fiscal conservatives that I align with. I can understand how it's offensive to many people to have to go about their daily lives around memorials to leaders who perpetuated what has long been deemed dispicable, but it makes no sense to me to want it erase it.
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Ya know, if we want to hole down the rabbit hole far enough we can find pretty much everyone is a descendant of a slave or a slave owner. We can parse the histories of leaders and find good and bad.

What I think is the finest device to prevent future slavery is freedom. Freedom is specified and guaranteed in the BoR/Constitution. When and where the Constitution had fault, it was added to over time (suffrage, rights to all, free slaves, etc.).

Before the Progressives kept coming, we knew they would one day be here for this. Some of the more severe Progressives will support the most aggressive forms of Slavery: Communism. Freedom and Communism are incompatible. I fear within 10 years there is a good chance we all will need to pick a side.

[Liv2Fish]

Originally Posted by JohnR

I fear within 10 years there is a good chance we all will need to pick a side.

I think you're right. I just don't think the right side exists yet. Progressives and conservatives seem to be further apart than any time in my lifetime. There are many things about both that I just can't align with.
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[wdmso]

Removing a plaque does not change history

all it does is rally the base who prior reading the article which shocking all right wing sites are running ... never knew the plagues the church or who went there even existed... LOL

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Removing a plaque does not change history

History is like the tree that falls in the forest but nobody is there to see it. It takes someone to see it and report it for the history to exist. If the report is edited or "interpreted," the tree's history is changed. If the historical report is removed to some vault that few will visit, the history of the fallen tree disappears until some curious scholar/reporter rediscovers its existence.

all it does is rally the base who prior reading the article which shocking all right wing sites are running ... never knew the plagues the church or who went there even existed... LOL

Yup. All knowledge requires discovery and a record of it. That's how we learn about all things to which we are not personally a witness. Even right wing witnesses discover and report things. Do you have some issue with right wingers reporting what they see?

Are you some kind of psychic that knows, without some report, what has happened outside of your personal perspective? The rest of most of us are not so fortunate. We often appreciate reports of various current histories that we could not otherwise see or know. The reports can, and do, inform us about the current drift or direction that our society is taking. Do you have a problem with that?

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Yup. All knowledge requires discovery and a record of it. That's how we learn about all things to which we are not personally a witness. Even right wing witnesses discover and report things. Do you have some issue with right wingers reporting what they see?

Are you some kind of psychic that knows, without some report, what has happened outside of your personal perspective? The rest of most of us are not so fortunate. We often appreciate reports of various current histories that we could not otherwise see or know. The reports can, and do, inform us about the current drift or direction that our society is taking. Do you have a problem with that?

You think the report is about information your not that naive.. the story was written to inflame and outrage .. thats it


There no plaques of Hitler or swastika Germany, Christopher Columbus is not the hero he once was portrayed yet no one has forgotten the history of theses men .. nor will we forget Washington or general Lee the good and the bad ..but Conservatives like you love these stories that reinforce your Tin foil hat views that some how the whiteness is being erased from our history .. and the Government wants your guns

[scottw]

I know the left enjoyed comparing George Bush to Hitler...but...George Washington?