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02-07-2018, 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by spence
Both Republicans and Democrats funded the Dossier. If it contains relevant information why does it even matter?
This just doesn't even make sense unless you're a Trump strategist trying to manipulate a news cycle.
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I'm not sure I need a lecture about what "makes sense", from a guy who believes that since Hilary lost, that's proof that nothing underhanded was done in her favor during the election.
How about this Spence. When you can explain why it makes any sense at all, to believe that failure to win necessarily means one played by the rules, I will listen to what you have to say. You are humiliating yourself.
The Japanese lost WWII, correct? Using your logic, does that mean they committed no war crimes? After all, they lost! If they were cheating, according to you, they would have been victorious!
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02-07-2018, 08:58 AM
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US President Donald Trump has asked the Pentagon to organise a large military parade in the nation's capital.
Nationalism being masked in patriotism
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02-07-2018, 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
US President Donald Trump has asked the Pentagon to organise a large military parade in the nation's capital.
Nationalism being masked in patriotism
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Well North Korea, China and Russia do seem to have nicer military parades than us. It prob. should be a requirement that everyone claps straight through the parade.
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02-07-2018, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
US President Donald Trump has asked the Pentagon to organise a large military parade in the nation's capital.
Nationalism being masked in patriotism
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military parades are bad? Is the Memorial Day parade in my town, now just a dog whistle for totalitarianism?
You people have come completely, and I mean completely, unglued.
We have people in harm's way. Honoring them with a parade, is an ominous sign of nationalism? I have a better idea, let's have another liberal march on The Mall where bitter losers scream the f word into megaphones and then leave the place littered with trash and cigarette butts. That's what we really need, not a parade.
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02-07-2018, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
military parades are bad? Is the Memorial Day parade in my town, now just a dog whistle for totalitarianism?
You people have come completely, and I mean completely, unglued.
We have people in harm's way. Honoring them with a parade, is an ominous sign of nationalism? I have a better idea, let's have another liberal march on The Mall where bitter losers scream the f word into megaphones and then leave the place littered with trash and cigarette butts. That's what we really need, not a parade.
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How about we celebrate the military by funding veterans benefits.
It's a fantastic waste of money.
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02-07-2018, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by spence
How about we celebrate the military by funding veterans benefits.
It's a fantastic waste of money.
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"How about we celebrate the military by funding veterans benefits."
A rare point of agreement.
"It's a fantastic waste of money"
A parade? You're a deficit hawk now? Or only when a Republican is spending money?
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02-07-2018, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
A parade? You're a deficit hawk now? Or only when a Republican is spending money?
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I'm guessing Trump's parade will cost a wee bit more than your town's Memorial Day parade.
That and it's just a stunt anyway.
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02-07-2018, 01:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim in CT
military parades are bad? Is the Memorial Day parade in my town, now just a dog whistle for totalitarianism?
You people have come completely, and I mean completely, unglued.
We have people in harm's way. Honoring them with a parade, is an ominous sign of nationalism? I have a better idea, let's have another liberal march on The Mall where bitter losers scream the f word into megaphones and then leave the place littered with trash and cigarette butts. That's what we really need, not a parade.
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Your out of touch with reality ... this has noting to do Honoring those in harms way .. 22years I served and a combat tour in Iraq I need no Honoring ,, if you don't know or can't see the difference between patriotism and Nationalism and how it works ..
let me show you
1st you attack a group
2nd you attack the
media
3rd you attack the CIA
4th you attack the DOJ
5th you attack the FBI
6 you attack the other party Un American and treasonous
7 now you use the military as a poltical prop
8 sell it to the faithful as Patriotism ....
9.. to isolate him from any criticism
10 he has 3 more years to do who knows what next
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02-07-2018, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
Your out of touch with reality ... this has noting to do Honoring those in harms way .. 22years I served and a combat tour in Iraq I need no Honoring ,, if you don't know or can't see the difference between patriotism and Nationalism and how it works ..
let me show you
1st you attack a group - like H
2nd you attack the
media
3rd you attack the CIA
4th you attack the DOJ
5th you attack the FBI
6 you attack the other party Un American and treasonous
7 now you use the military as a poltical prop
8 sell it to the faithful as Patriotism ....
9.. to isolate him from any criticism
10 he has 3 more years to do who knows what next
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"1st you attack a group "
Hmmm...lik Obama saying that Republicans "gotta stop just hatin' all the time? Or Hilary calling Republicans deplorable and irredeemable?
"2nd you attack the
media"
Hmmm..did Obama ever stop whining about Foxnews?
"3rd you attack the CIA, 4th you attack the DOJ, 5th you attack the FBI"
Are we attacking everyone in those institutions? Or a small number of people? I itemized a fairly long list of known, irrefutable facts about what some of those people did. I asked what items on my list were not true. Didn't hear a peep from you. In fact, you sure implied that Trey Gowdy knows what he's talking about with regards to the FISA memo.
"9.. to isolate him from any criticism"
Right, Trump doesn't get any direct criticism.
"10 he has 3 more years to do who knows what next"
More like 7 unless there's a democrat running that I'm not aware of. Neither Bernie nor Lie-awatha is likely going to beat him.
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02-07-2018, 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
I'm not sure I need a lecture about what "makes sense", from a guy who believes that since Hilary lost, that's proof that nothing underhanded was done in her favor during the election.
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Clinton lost by a razor thin margin and likely would have won if the investigation had been put to bed. You're just swimming in conspiracy theories now which is exactly what Trump wants.
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02-07-2018, 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by spence
Clinton lost by a razor thin margin and likely would have won if the investigation had been put to bed. You're just swimming in conspiracy theories now which is exactly what Trump wants.
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What, are you shaving with a bowling ball?
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"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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02-07-2018, 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
What, are you shaving with a bowling ball?
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Clinton crushed Trump in the popular vote and narrowly missed three critical swing states by just 80,000 votes. The election was very close.
The map is pretty though.
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02-07-2018, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by spence
Clinton crushed Trump in the popular vote .
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And if the popular vote mattered worth a frog's fat ass, Trump (like your wet dream Hilary) would have skipped flyover country and campaigned harder on the coasts. He chose to speak to people in Wisconsin and Ohio. She chose not to. Oh well.
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02-07-2018, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by spence
Clinton crushed Trump in the popular vote and narrowly missed three critical swing states by just 80,000 votes. The election was very close.
The map is pretty though.
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Without California's popular vote totals, Trump popular vote crushes Clinton in the rest of the country.
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02-07-2018, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
Without California's popular vote totals, Trump popular vote crushes Clinton in the rest of the country.
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You could say that about several states, or the reverse for Trump's electoral votes.
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02-07-2018, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
You could say that about several states, or the reverse for Trump's electoral votes.
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No you cannot. The margin of victory for Clinton in California alone is way, way, way more than she needed to get the majority of the popular vote. In fact, she would have lost the popular vote by 1.4 million votes without California. And it very clearly demonstrates why Democrats do not want, at least for a few more election cycles, to restrict immigration from south of the border.
https://www.investors.com/politics/c...om-california/
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02-07-2018, 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
Clinton crushed Trump in the popular vote and narrowly missed three critical swing states by just 80,000 votes. The election was very close.
The map is pretty though.
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Ahhhh...the old "Popular Vote" argument.
The popular vote means nothing, zip, zilch, nada, bupkis.
It has absolutely no bearing on who gets elected in a presidential election. It's created by the media to give people something to bitch about.
Who wins the World Series? The team who scores the most runs or the team who wins the most games?
This simple concept is completely lost on the Butt hurt brigade......and Hillarys campaign managers.
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02-07-2018, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
What, are you shaving with a bowling ball?
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I demand a re-count.
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02-07-2018, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by spence
Clinton lost by a razor thin margin and likely would have won if the investigation had been put to bed. You're just swimming in conspiracy theories now which is exactly what Trump wants.
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The only thing I'm swimming in, is the absurdity of someone who thinks that having lost a contest, is irrefutable evidence that said loser played by the rules.
Conspiracy theories? I listed the facts. I asked you if any of them was wrong, and you didn't claim a single one was wrong. Hmm, I wonder why?
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