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02-20-2018, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
Jim you need to watch more of the Trump news network aka fox
I cant find any story you quoted... got a link?
https://www.vox.com/2018/2/19/170274...dictment-trump
The data paints a clear story of how damaging it is for a media outlet to prioritize its defense of the president. In the past 72 hours, Fox News:
Limited its coverage of what the indictment actually reveals: evidence of foreign organizations trying to undermine American democracy
Drastically reduced coverage of the Florida school shooting to push pundits onto TV to say this story actually vindicates President Trump, even though it does nothing of the sort
Used a detail of the school shooting to push the narrative that the FBI, and by extension the Muller investigation, is flawed — and gave cover to President Trump
It’s easy to just chalk all this up to Fox News being Fox News. But Fox News is the main source of news for 19 percent of 2016 voters, including 40 percent of Trump voters. There’s academic evidence that Fox News is more powerful than we ever imagined. It’s a network that allows conspiracy theorists to make hay out of baseless lies. And to top it all off, there is evidence that the hosts see their jobs as advising Trump — talking directly to him — and that Trump sees them as his main information source. |
"I cant find any story you quoted... got a link?"
Here it is. Maddow spent ten minutes last night, telling her audience (me and Spence and 2 other suckers) how awful it is that a president would he happy that a school shooting took place. It never occurred to her, that the story might be made up.
The luxury of quoting a second-hand, anonymous source...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.e41b6e25176b
Funny, when Trump complained during the campaign that the election was being rigged, Obama told him to "stop whining", and then Obama proceeded to explain why a presidential election was too de-centralized to be interfered with.
Then as soon as Trump won, it was assumed it woul dbe easy for Russia to influence the outcome.
So when everyone thought Hilary was going to win in a landslide, it was paranoid to assume an election could ever be unfair. If she won, the outcome could not be questioned.
But when she lost? Something must be afoot!!
Do you see how obviously dishonest that is? |
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02-20-2018, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
Here it is. Maddow spent ten minutes last night, telling her audience (me and Spence and 2 other suckers) how awful it is that a president would he happy that a school shooting took place. It never occurred to her, that the story might be made up.
The luxury of quoting a second-hand, anonymous source...
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The Washington Post would have had it double sourced. Probably one of the most respectable papers out there.
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Funny, when Trump complained during the campaign that the election was being rigged, Obama told him to "stop whining", and then Obama proceeded to explain why a presidential election was too de-centralized to be interfered with.
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There's a big difference between "rigged" and "influenced." Trump was claiming the election was "rigged."
Besides, at that time the scope of Russian meddling wasn't known to be of the scale it is today. Do you hate Clinton and Obama more than you love our Democracy? |
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02-20-2018, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
"I cant find any story you quoted... got a link?"
Here it is. Maddow spent ten minutes last night, telling her audience (me and Spence and 2 other suckers) how awful it is that a president would he happy that a school shooting took place. It never occurred to her, that the story might be made up.
The luxury of quoting a second-hand, anonymous source...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.e41b6e25176b
Funny, when Trump complained during the campaign that the election was being rigged, Obama told him to "stop whining", and then Obama proceeded to explain why a presidential election was too de-centralized to be interfered with.
Then as soon as Trump won, it was assumed it woul dbe easy for Russia to influence the outcome.
So when everyone thought Hilary was going to win in a landslide, it was paranoid to assume an election could ever be unfair. If she won, the outcome could not be questioned.
But when she lost? Something must be afoot!!
Do you see how obviously dishonest that is? |
where do you come up with this stuff ? The Russian operation is real
and he has done nothing but blame everyone but the russians
45 Countries Still Don't Have A U.S. Ambassador
130 political appointees working in the Executive Office of the President did not have permanent security clearances as of November 2017, including the president's daughter, son-in-law and his top legal counsel, according to internal White House documents obtained by NBC News.
Trump has no nominees for 245 important jobs, including an ambassador to South Korea
In 2017, 34% of President Trump’s staff was either been fired, resigned, or reassigned. Trump’s first year turnover rate is exactly double that of Reagan’s 17% in 1981, which is the next highest in the past 40 years.
TRUMP GOLF COUNT: 94* Cost to Taxpayer: At least $55,823,128**
Days Trump has spent at Mar a Lago: 57
Cost of flights to Mar a Lago (13 so far):* ~$26,985,000
Days Trump has spent at Bedminster: 33
Cost of flights to Bedminster (11 so far):*~$8,481,000
Trump has visited his clubs once every this many days since his inauguration 4.3
Projected visits to golf clubs in four years: 339
Projected visits in eight years: 678
Total times Obama played golf during his eight year Presidency: 306
the Only Person conspiring against Trump is Trump  |
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02-20-2018, 03:42 PM
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The full list of known indictments and plea deals in Mueller’s probe
1) George Papadopoulos, former Trump campaign foreign policy adviser, pleaded guilty in October to making false statements to the FBI.
2) Michael Flynn, Trump’s former national security adviser, pleaded guilty in December to making false statements to the FBI.
3) Paul Manafort, Trump’s former campaign chair, was indicted in October on charges of conspiracy, money laundering, false statements, and failure to disclose foreign assets — all related to his work for Ukrainian politicians before he joined the Trump campaign. He’s pleaded not guilty on all counts.
4) Rick Gates, a former Trump campaign aide and Manafort’s longtime junior business partner, was similarly indicted on conspiracy, money laundering, and false statements charges. He’s pleaded not guilty on all counts, for now.
5-20) 13 Russian nationals and three Russian companies were indicted on conspiracy charges, with some also being accused of identity theft. The charges related to a Russian propaganda effort designed to interfere with the 2016 campaign. The companies involved are the Internet Research Agency, often described as a “Russian troll farm,” and two other companies that helped finance it. The Russian nationals indicted include 12 of the agency’s employees and its alleged financier, Yevgeny Prigozhin.
21) Richard Pinedo: This California man pleaded guilty to an identity theft charge in connection with the Russian indictments, and has agreed to cooperate with Mueller.
22) Alex van der Zwaan: This London lawyer will reportedly plead guilty to making false statements to the FBI about his contacts with Rick Gates.
Two ex-Trump advisers lied to the FBI about their contacts with Russians
A Capt should go down with his ship Trump picked the players on his team he is responsible
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02-20-2018, 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
The full list of known indictments and plea deals in Mueller’s probe
1) George Papadopoulos, former Trump campaign foreign policy adviser, pleaded guilty in October to making false statements to the FBI.
2) Michael Flynn, Trump’s former national security adviser, pleaded guilty in December to making false statements to the FBI.
3) Paul Manafort, Trump’s former campaign chair, was indicted in October on charges of conspiracy, money laundering, false statements, and failure to disclose foreign assets — all related to his work for Ukrainian politicians before he joined the Trump campaign. He’s pleaded not guilty on all counts.
4) Rick Gates, a former Trump campaign aide and Manafort’s longtime junior business partner, was similarly indicted on conspiracy, money laundering, and false statements charges. He’s pleaded not guilty on all counts, for now.
5-20) 13 Russian nationals and three Russian companies were indicted on conspiracy charges, with some also being accused of identity theft. The charges related to a Russian propaganda effort designed to interfere with the 2016 campaign. The companies involved are the Internet Research Agency, often described as a “Russian troll farm,” and two other companies that helped finance it. The Russian nationals indicted include 12 of the agency’s employees and its alleged financier, Yevgeny Prigozhin.
21) Richard Pinedo: This California man pleaded guilty to an identity theft charge in connection with the Russian indictments, and has agreed to cooperate with Mueller.
22) Alex van der Zwaan: This London lawyer will reportedly plead guilty to making false statements to the FBI about his contacts with Rick Gates.
Two ex-Trump advisers lied to the FBI about their contacts with Russians
A Capt should go down with his ship Trump picked the players on his team he is responsible
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A captain should go down with the ship, eh? So what punishment would you hand out for the person who was secState when Americans died in Benghazi? A brutal punishment I am sure...
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02-20-2018, 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
A captain should go down with the ship, eh? So what punishment would you hand out for the person who was secState when Americans died in Benghazi? A brutal punishment I am sure...
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Not sure I can face palm enough here. |
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02-20-2018, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
A captain should go down with the ship, eh? So what punishment would you hand out for the person who was secState when Americans died in Benghazi? A brutal punishment I am sure...
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Benghazi please those men died doing their jobs and the right drags them tru the mud for political gain .on a fantasy they were left to die ,,, funny how I have seen no outrage about 4 soldiers killed in an ambush Nigier funny how that works |
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02-20-2018, 08:49 PM
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Benghazi please those men died doing their jobs and the right drags them tru the mud for political gain .on a fantasy they were left to die ,,, funny how I have seen no outrage about 4 soldiers killed in an ambush Nigier funny how that works
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So what you meant, is that republican captains should go down with the ship, while democrat captains leave their post, start billion dollar foundations, and give sweetheart jobs to their cronies.
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02-20-2018, 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
So what you meant, is that republican captains should go down with the ship, while democrat captains leave their post, start billion dollar foundations, and give sweetheart jobs to their cronies.
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Are you really making the cronies comment now, with the current administration? Without being ironic?
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"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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02-21-2018, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
So what you meant, is that republican captains should go down with the ship, while democrat captains leave their post, start billion dollar foundations, and give sweetheart jobs to their cronies.
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you still love comparing things that are not the same
and no thoughts on the niger ambush |
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02-20-2018, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
A captain should go down with the ship, eh? So what punishment would you hand out for the person who was secState when Americans died in Benghazi? A brutal punishment I am sure...
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What about is contributing to Trump s gaslighting. What would you as a responsible parent say to your child if they did something and said but Johnny?
I know what it was in the one I grew up in and mine. It was not that’s OK
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