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Old 02-27-2018, 09:06 AM   #1
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People pleading guilty left and right and some how it's still a witch hunt . They only seem to care they can't touch Trump with the collusion lable.. they could careless if those who worked for appointed by Trump are pleading guilty to crimes involving Russians..

SENIOR Adviser on President Donald Trump’s election campaign plead guilty... and you guys are still blaming the steel dossier to funny
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Old 02-27-2018, 09:40 AM   #2
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People pleading guilty left and right and some how it's still a witch hunt . They only seem to care they can't touch Trump with the collusion lable..
Interesting read of a pretty credible guy. Collusion or not the damage is being done regardless...

https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...-hayden-217091
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Old 02-27-2018, 12:17 PM   #3
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Interesting read of a pretty credible guy. Collusion or not the damage is being done regardless...

https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...-hayden-217091
I can hear it now
He is an Independent......
Clearly a deep state operative..........

I think the article puts a different perspective on the situation. He is a critical thinker and shows that this issue is more interesting and convoluted than the politicians or media would have us believe.

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Old 02-27-2018, 12:48 PM   #4
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some interesting thoughts on Hayden...sorry to interrupt the tongue bath


https://www.cjr.org/first_person/cia...den_expert.php
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Old 02-27-2018, 12:56 PM   #5
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some interesting thoughts on Hayden...sorry to interrupt the tongue bath


https://www.cjr.org/first_person/cia...den_expert.php
A little quote from the article, since selecting portions that are in our favor are en vogue.
"That’s not to say everything Michael Hayden says is inherently wrong. Again, he’s right that President Obama almost certainly did not directly order a “wiretap” of Donald Trump, and he generally has a reasonable positions on Trump’s dangerous Muslim Ban and even encryption."

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Old 02-27-2018, 01:07 PM   #6
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A little quote from the article, since selecting portions that are in our favor are en vogue.
"That’s not to say everything Michael Hayden says is inherently wrong. Again, he’s right that President Obama almost certainly did not directly order a “wiretap” of Donald Trump, and he generally has a reasonable positions on Trump’s dangerous Muslim Ban and even encryption."
I read that....I didn't select portions...I linked the entire article


it's really funny...during the Bush years...regarding wiretapping...it was portrayed by the left as Bush and Cheney sitting around a monitor all day listening to the phone conversations of average Americans...Google..."Bush Wiretapping"....Trump does essentially the same thing and he's crazy...so I'll admit both Trump and the left are crazy
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Old 02-27-2018, 01:16 PM   #7
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I read that....I didn't select portions...I linked the entire article


it's really funny...during the Bush years...regarding wiretapping...it was portrayed by the left as Bush and Cheney sitting around a monitor all day listening to the phone conversations of average Americans...Google..."Bush Wiretapping"....Trump does essentially the same thing and he's crazy...so I'll admit both Trump and the left are crazy
Speaking of crazy... the complaint with the Bush era wiretapping was that it was warrantless. Trump is making up something about Obama that never happened. The faulty analogies in this forum? Crazy.

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Old 02-27-2018, 01:37 PM   #8
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it's really funny...during the Bush years...regarding wiretapping...it was portrayed by the left as Bush and Cheney sitting around a monitor all day listening to the phone conversations of average Americans...Google..."Bush Wiretapping"....Trump does essentially the same thing and he's crazy...so I'll admit both Trump and the left are crazy
You must have a short memory, Bush authorized warrantless wiretapping after 911.

Big, huge, monstrous difference.
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