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02-27-2018, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Here is a site, admittedly antigun, but it has a list of school shootings since Newtown. Look at the categories and see how many are Gun fired unintentionally with injury or death resulting.
It might make you think about having more guns in schools
https://everytownresearch.org/school-shootings/
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Which is why I like the idea of putting trained, professional soldiers in the schools, not yahoos.
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02-27-2018, 02:36 PM
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#242
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
Which is why I like the idea of putting trained, professional soldiers in the schools, not yahoos.
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yeah....whenever I see one of these teachers doing the..."I'm an educator and Trump wants me to carry a weapon and I can't afford paste and crayons for my kids to eat"....I'm thinking....yeah, I don't think he had you in mind...
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02-27-2018, 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by scottw
yeah....whenever I see one of these teachers doing the..."I'm an educator and Trump wants me to carry a weapon and I can't afford paste and crayons for my kids to eat"....I'm thinking....yeah, I don't think he had you in mind...
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No I don't think he had all that many of them in mind...
Well in West Virginia they figured out a solution to school shootings, the teachers are all on strike for 3 consecutive days, forcing every school (I think) in the state to close.
Because it's "all about the children". I bet the teachers are genuinely concerned that their students have insufficient pensions.
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02-27-2018, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
Are there any Republican action or words or in this case threats that you dont support ? heres a site so you'll love
https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/...es_to_boycott/
ORGANIZATIONS TO BOYCOTT:
Pepsico
MACY'S
Amazon - owned by Jeff Bezos
The NFL - this is a big one but has been requested multiple times. Any opposition?
GrubHub (CEO is a total cuck) and their subsidiary, Seamless
OREOS (moved production to Mexico)
CARRIER Air Conditioning (moved production to Mexico)
Moz
Dreamworks
Netflix - spreads propaganda for Al Qaeda
Lifeway Foods - CEO Julie Smolyansky trashed President Trump.
PacketSled *
ConAgra - they're closing up and moving to MEXICO
Comet Ping Pong, Besta Pizza, Terasol, Politics and Prose and Beyond Borders - see r/pizzagate
Required mention: social media such as Facebook, Google, Twitter, Imgur, YouTube - all censored pro-Trump stuff. If you use these to post pro-Trump stuff, weigh the benefits. Trump did use SM to win the election.
Disney - they're cucked and many are clamoring for them to be added.
Ben & Jerry's for supporting BLM
Starbucks (by popular demand)
Dell
Love that Info wars is on they support them section
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really don't give a chit, Boycotts are stupid.
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02-27-2018, 03:17 PM
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#245
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
Which is why I like the idea of putting trained, professional soldiers in the schools, not yahoos.
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67 of these were Gun fired no one injured, yet they classify this as a school shooting. No Bias on this website.
some were people with no affiliation to the schools.
and a large number were students who brought guns in from home.
don't see where this has much of a bearing on allowing legally licensed employees the right to carry.
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02-27-2018, 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
I think you aren't seeing a business treating people differently based on what they believe
[QUOTE:zimmy]
No, they are treating them the same, just not special treatment. The analogy would be if Delta refused to sell NRA members plane tickets.[QUOTE]
The bakery was treating the gays the same, just not special treatment. They served their wares to everybody, including gays. Their wares did not include goods intended for any use which did not accord with their religion.
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02-27-2018, 03:57 PM
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If you read this and can figure out where in the current police scenario depicted herein a teacher with a gun fits in and can feel safe, feel free to explain it to me.
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine...o-kill/305313/
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Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
Lets Go Darwin
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02-27-2018, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
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Simple, they don't.
A teacher shouldn't be cruising the halls looking for an active shooter.
Students/teacher shelter in place (classroom), lock doors til threat is over. Teacher armed, with focus on door of classroom. 26 people in room, better chance of 26 people leaving at the end of the day.
Not a fan of this fleeing mentality, just leads to chaos that the shooter can take advantage of.
This would also rely on the Deputies entering the school to track down the shooter instead of waiting outside for the fairy god mother to help.
Now if the Active shooter finds them, at least they have option to defend themselves.
Everybody is under this impression that the teachers are going to be some rogue SWAT team for the school.
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02-27-2018, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
67 of these were Gun fired no one injured, yet they classify this as a school shooting. No Bias on this website.
some were people with no affiliation to the schools.
and a large number were students who brought guns in from home.
don't see where this has much of a bearing on allowing legally licensed employees the right to carry.
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"67 of these were Gun fired no one injured, yet they classify this as a school shooting. No Bias on this website.
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There are a lot of zealots on both sides, and they can be shameless in the way they mislead people, can't they?
TDF, sometimes I have absolutely no idea what unites us anymore. None. When a country can't agree on who should pee in the mens room and who can pee in the ladies' room, maybe we are becoming too stupid to survive.
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02-27-2018, 04:14 PM
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Now please tell me why this
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
When the towers fell on 911 we immediately changed airline security guidelines. Armed Marshalls, armed pilots, Metal detectors at every entrance, Steel doors on the cockpits
We didn't tell people they couldn't buy box cutters, we shored up security everywhere that could be a weakness.
A bunch of kids get killed and the gut reaction is to outlaw the "Box Cutters". Why wouldn't we put Armed Guards in the schools, Allow teachers to carry, metal detectors at the entrances to the school and secure doors on the classrooms. We need to change security procedures to ensure their safety.
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Coupled with this
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
Simple, they don't.
A teacher shouldn't be cruising the halls looking for an active shooter.
Students/teacher shelter in place (classroom), lock doors til threat is over. Teacher armed, with focus on door of classroom. 26 people in room, better chance of 26 people leaving at the end of the day.
Not a fan of this fleeing mentality, just leads to chaos that the shooter can take advantage of.
This would also rely on the Deputies entering the school to track down the shooter instead of waiting outside for the fairy god mother to help.
Now if the Active shooter finds them, at least they have option to defend themselves.
Everybody is under this impression that the teachers are going to be some rogue SWAT team for the school.
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is not a better plan than banning an inanimate object.
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02-27-2018, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
TDF, sometimes I have absolutely no idea what unites us anymore. None. When a country can't agree on who should pee in the mens room and who can pee in the ladies' room, maybe we are becoming too stupid to survive.
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Darwinism doesn't play favorites
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02-27-2018, 04:22 PM
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#252
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
Darwinism doesn't play favorites
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It surely does not.
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02-27-2018, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by scottw
I think 26 would be better since that's the age that they're consider adults now thanks to Obamacare....
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And 26 for Assault Jammies too
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Here is a site, admittedly antigun, but it has a list of school shootings since Newtown. Look at the categories and see how many are Gun fired unintentionally with injury or death resulting.
It might make you think about having more guns in schools
https://everytownresearch.org/school-shootings/
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As mentioned previously, the included many things that could hardly be called "school shootings". Problem is, with this loose and biased representation of facts, for a week now we have been hearing "18 shootings" parroted all about the media. This EveryTown advocacy organization is using SEO, hard marketing, and paid placement in order to propagandize AgitProp the debate.
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02-27-2018, 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
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TDF, sometimes I have absolutely no idea what unites us anymore. None. When a country can't agree on who should pee in the mens room and who can pee in the ladies' room, maybe we are becoming too stupid to survive.
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You've said in previous posts you are a simple guy. Maybe it is that issues tend to be more complicated and nuanced than you want them to be. It isn't that we are becoming too stupid to survive, it is that over time, we as a society have a better understanding of the complexities of biology, genetics, gender, psychology, that things aren't as simple as they were made to be. More than half of the country (if you wanna believe polls) oppose laws requiring transgender people to use the bathroom of sex identified at birth. That shows progress in empathy and understanding of a complicated issue.
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No, no, no. we’re 30… 30, three zero.
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02-27-2018, 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by zimmy
You've said in previous posts you are a simple guy. Maybe it is that issues tend to be more complicated and nuanced than you want them to be. It isn't that we are becoming too stupid to survive, it is that over time, we as a society have a better understanding of the complexities of biology, genetics, gender, psychology, that things aren't as simple as they were made to be. More than half of the country (if you wanna believe polls) oppose laws requiring transgender people to use the bathroom of sex identified at birth. That shows progress in empathy and understanding of a complicated issue.
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Well said Zim. As an aside, Jim, saw my accountant today and my taxes are going UP for 2018. That plus what the tax plan has done to interest rates is costing me dearly on my mortgage refi. Thanks Trump and the GOP.
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02-27-2018, 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
Well said Zim. As an aside, Jim, saw my accountant today and my taxes are going UP for 2018. That plus what the tax plan has done to interest rates is costing me dearly on my mortgage refi. Thanks Trump and the GOP.
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That is awful for you, but puts you in a small minority.
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02-27-2018, 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by zimmy
You've said in previous posts you are a simple guy. Maybe it is that issues tend to be more complicated and nuanced than you want them to be. It isn't that we are becoming too stupid to survive, it is that over time, we as a society have a better understanding of the complexities of biology, genetics, gender, psychology, that things aren't as simple as they were made to be. More than half of the country (if you wanna believe polls) oppose laws requiring transgender people to use the bathroom of sex identified at birth. That shows progress in empathy and understanding of a complicated issue.
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Too bad our progress in empathy doesn't extend to Christians who just want to be left alone to practice their faith.
Some things actually are pretty simple.
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02-27-2018, 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
Well said Zim. As an aside, Jim, saw my accountant today and my taxes are going UP for 2018. That plus what the tax plan has done to interest rates is costing me dearly on my mortgage refi. Thanks Trump and the GOP.
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Get a new accountant and congrats on the raise! Get 15 years and you will make out great.
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02-27-2018, 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by zimmy
You've said in previous posts you are a simple guy. Maybe it is that issues tend to be more complicated and nuanced than you want them to be. It isn't that we are becoming too stupid to survive, it is that over time, we as a society have a better understanding of the complexities of biology, genetics, gender, psychology, that things aren't as simple as they were made to be. More than half of the country (if you wanna believe polls) oppose laws requiring transgender people to use the bathroom of sex identified at birth. That shows progress in empathy and understanding of a complicated issue.
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Yet the country takes something simple and makes it complicated. Time and money wasted so a high school girl who is taking hormones to become a boy can wrestle other girls who don't want to wrestle him/her. That's progress we can be proud of.
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PRO CHOICE REPUBLICAN
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02-28-2018, 06:32 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spence
Well said Zim. As an aside, Jim, saw my accountant today and my taxes are going UP for 2018. That plus what the tax plan has done to interest rates is costing me dearly on my mortgage refi. Thanks Trump and the GOP.
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I think there might be a bar in Boston that caters to people who expected their Insurance premiums to go down under Obamacare, but didn't. You should check it out, maybe you can commiserate with them.
I think Tuesday night is 1/2 price well drinks for those who didn't get to keep their doctor.
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02-28-2018, 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
I think there might be a bar in Boston that caters to people who expected their Insurance premiums to go down under Obamacare, but didn't. You should check it out, maybe you can commiserate with them.
I think Tuesday night is 1/2 price well drinks for those who didn't get to keep their doctor.
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I'm glad to see that the wealthy elites(Spence) are paying their fair share
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02-28-2018, 08:02 AM
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Get a new accountant and congrats on the raise! Get 15 years and you will make out great.
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Has nothing to do with my accountant, just the new rules don't work with my personal situation as well as the old ones.
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02-28-2018, 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by spence
Has nothing to do with my accountant, just the new rules don't work with my personal situation as well as the old ones.
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Can't deduct all your mortgage interest, eh?
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02-28-2018, 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by spence
Has nothing to do with my accountant, just the new rules don't work with my personal situation as well as the old ones.
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It has everything to do with your accountant just ask Trump.
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02-28-2018, 12:54 PM
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Can't deduct all your mortgage interest, eh?
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Haha, that I still can...
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02-28-2018, 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
Well said Zim. As an aside, Jim, saw my accountant today and my taxes are going UP for 2018. That plus what the tax plan has done to interest rates is costing me dearly on my mortgage refi. Thanks Trump and the GOP.
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Because of the cap on state/local taxes? That hurts me too, but the expanded childcare tax credits more than offset that for me, I have 3 kids...
What else would be dinging you? Did you get a raise and you are blaming the tax hike on Trump??
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02-28-2018, 02:57 PM
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I expect to pay more for 2018. I have no kids, and no mortgage. I pay well over $10K in property taxes (as do most my friends in town). I noticed a slight increase in take home pay but don't think it will offset the cap on state tax deduction.
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02-28-2018, 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
I expect to pay more for 2018. I have no kids, and no mortgage. I pay well over $10K in property taxes (as do most my friends in town). I noticed a slight increase in take home pay but don't think it will offset the cap on state tax deduction.
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You live in CT, Paul? Very, very easy to go way over 10k in total state/local taxes (unless you don't own a home) and the only way to offset that is the child credits...
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02-28-2018, 03:35 PM
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News flash. Georgia teacher barricades himself. In empty class room and discharges his weapon. Authorities are detaining him.
Guns are the solution to all of our problems !
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02-28-2018, 03:51 PM
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News Flash, over 3,000,000 American owned AR-15 style rifles weren't fired at people today.
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