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Old 05-09-2018, 07:05 PM   #1
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right..the same economists that said Trump would crash the stock market and destroy the planet
Paul krugman said the us economy would never survive a trump presidency. And people still listen to him.
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Old 05-09-2018, 07:15 PM   #2
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Paul krugman said the us economy would never survive a trump presidency. And people still listen to him.
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To be fair, his first term isn’t even halfway over yet....
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Old 05-10-2018, 08:24 AM   #3
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To be fair, his first term isn’t even halfway over yet....
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That's true, and I'm not saying he's going to be a good POTUS. But what evidence is there, that the US economy won't survive hos presidency?
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Old 05-10-2018, 09:22 AM   #4
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That's true, and I'm not saying he's going to be a good POTUS. But what evidence is there, that the US economy won't survive hos presidency?
I think the economy will survive better than his presidency.
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Funny how the things people complain about the most are the ones they do.
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Old 05-10-2018, 09:33 AM   #5
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I think the economy will survive better than his presidency.
Pay to play, drain the swamp and lock them up
Funny how the things people complain about the most are the ones they do.
Many politicians are honest and great - but some are knowingly dishonest and basic scum. They should be weeded out!
"Pay to play, drain the swamp and lock them up"

If you think that sums up his presidency so far, well you are cherry-picking for political reasons. There were plenty of things Obama did that I hated, there were some things he did great (he helped the economy recover, killed the Somali pirates, helped keep alive the programs that led to Bin Ladens death).

You left out some things that Trump did...he appointed a superb (from the conservative view) Supreme Court justice, he put a little more money in most of our pockets, he made every corporation in the country (I think) more profitable by lowering the corporate tax rate), unemployment continues to drop, the stock market continues to rise, and he seems to have fatty over in North Korea taking notice, as he let the 3 hostages go. Aren't those all good things? Why can't you say that out loud?

It would be nice if we could give presidents credit where it's due, and criticism where it's due. This guy deserves a whole lot of criticism, much of his personal behavior is indefensible. But his policies are helping the economy, at least for now.
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"Pay to play, drain the swamp and lock them up"

If you think that sums up his presidency so far, well you are cherry-picking for political reasons. There were plenty of things Obama did that I hated, there were some things he did great (he helped the economy recover, killed the Somali pirates, helped keep alive the programs that led to Bin Ladens death).

You left out some things that Trump did...he appointed a superb (from the conservative view) Supreme Court justice, he put a little more money in most of our pockets, he made every corporation in the country (I think) more profitable by lowering the corporate tax rate), unemployment continues to drop, the stock market continues to rise, and he seems to have fatty over in North Korea taking notice, as he let the 3 hostages go. Aren't those all good things? Why can't you say that out loud?

It would be nice if we could give presidents credit where it's due, and criticism where it's due. This guy deserves a whole lot of criticism, much of his personal behavior is indefensible. But his policies are helping the economy, at least for now.
You are right Jim
Trump is the greatest at some things
He has had far more people in his administration indicted than Obama.
He is meeting with the leader of North Korea, something they have wanted for over thirty years. There are reasons NO prior president has meet with the leaders of North Korea.
Neil Gorsuch has been on the Court for a short time, time will tell.
The economy continues to improve.
Unemployment continues to drop
He signed a temporary decrease in in personal income taxes for some and a permanent decrease for corporations.
The stock market is a all time high level, be careful, remember the recovery under Obama only took 6 years. That was a third or less than previous recoveries. The market is a fickle beast and nobody controls it.
As I've sad before, it is hard to give someone credit when he has already taken more than is due. If they said the economy is doing better, period. Then the media could define it, but when it is defined by the WH as the "superlative" whatever, the responsible media says that is not correct it is actually "this". Then the WH says it is fake and whines.

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Old 05-10-2018, 01:19 PM   #7
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You are right Jim

He signed a temporary decrease in in personal income taxes for some and a permanent decrease for corporations..
The personal decreases will likely be made permanent, there was some procedural reason why they couldn't all be made permanent. In any event, a 10-year bump in take home pay is better than no bump, right? I didn't get a tax cut from 2009-2016, and neither did anyone else I know. I did see health insurance costs skyrocket, because despite what any idiot claims, if you insure more people and you cover more things, costs will go up, not down. Maybe Obama should have taken one less course in community activism, and one more course in Finance.
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