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05-14-2018, 01:09 PM
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Maybe we need to start electing CPAs instead of Lawyers, just a thought.
I would like to see a totally funded basic healthcare system that did primary care and the things we all need to live a reasonable life. You could also buy additional insurance to do things above and beyond what is available in the basic system.
How it is totally funded is a big question.
The other one is what is basic care and who decides that.
The way it currently works seems to me to be, people on government assistance get it paid for, the truly wealthy can just pay for it, the people in the middle are fine as long as they dont get a long term issue and lose their coverage because they cannot work or happen to get sick while for one reason or another they are uninsured. Of course most people in this country fall into the middle group.
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05-14-2018, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Maybe we need to start electing CPAs instead of Lawyers, just a thought.
I would like to see a totally funded basic healthcare system that did primary care and the things we all need to live a reasonable life. You could also buy additional insurance to do things above and beyond what is available in the basic system.
How it is totally funded is a big question.
The other one is what is basic care and who decides that.
The way it currently works seems to me to be, people on government assistance get it paid for, the truly wealthy can just pay for it, the people in the middle are fine as long as they dont get a long term issue and lose their coverage because they cannot work or happen to get sick while for one reason or another they are uninsured. Of course most people in this country fall into the middle group.
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"Maybe we need to start electing CPAs instead of Lawyers, just a thought"
A brilliant thought. Sincerely, boy that would help. |
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05-14-2018, 03:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete F.
I would like to see a totally funded basic healthcare system that did primary care and the things we all need to live a reasonable life.
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How much do you guess you would have to pay for an insurance policy that paid for all the things needed for you to live a reasonable life? |
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05-14-2018, 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
How much do you guess you would have to pay for an insurance policy that paid for all the things needed for you to live a reasonable life?
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Where?
Pick a nation the data is out there
I’d like to see us bring the costs down to the midpoint of developed countries rather than The highest
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05-15-2018, 03:52 AM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
How much do you guess you would have to pay for an insurance policy that paid for all the things needed for you to live a reasonable life?
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it's really hard to get an answer to a question around here.... |
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05-15-2018, 04:24 AM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
How much do you guess you would have to pay for an insurance policy that paid for all the things needed for you to live a reasonable life?
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1000
And I’ll pose the same question back to you and Scott since you have the correct answer in mind
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05-15-2018, 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
1000
And I’ll pose the same question back to you and Scott since you have the correct answer in mind
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if that is $1000 "per year" that is approximately what my car and life insurance costs and I can't remember the last time I made a claim for car ins...or life...obviously......you want a lot for a very little= health insurance for $83 a month...you want unlimited visits, no co-pay and free meds too?...my answer is I'd like to pay for what I want and need from a competitive market.... |
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05-15-2018, 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by scottw
if that is $1000 "per year" that is approximately what my car and life insurance costs and I can't remember the last time I made a claim for car ins...or life...obviously......you want a lot for a very little= health insurance for $83 a month...you want unlimited visits, no co-pay and free meds too?...my answer is I'd like to pay for what I want and need from a competitive market....
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It's really hard to get a straight answer around here. Does your answer mean you would like to not need insurance, or is it some imaginary competitive price?
Healthcare costs per capita in developed nations including public funds average around $5000 per year, we pay twice that of which over $4000 is public funds. So my answer of $1000 to your question is actually a total cost of $5000 one way or another. Switzerland has a competitive system (private insurance) and they come closest to our costs, but because they also have some government controls are less expensive.
Here is the question in case you forgot.
How much do you guess you would have to pay for an insurance policy that paid for all the things needed for you to live a reasonable life? |
Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
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05-15-2018, 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
It's really hard to get a straight answer around here. it was a pretty straight answer...what did you not understand?Does your answer mean you would like to not need insurance didn't say that, or is it some imaginary competitive price
are competitive prices imaginary?
Healthcare costs per capita in developed nations including public funds average around $5000 per year, we pay twice that of which over $4000 is public funds. So my answer of $1000 to your question is actually a total cost of $5000 one way or another. Switzerland has a competitive system (private insurance) and they come closest to our costs, but because they also have some government controls are less expensive.we have no government controls?
Here is the question in case you forgot.
How much do you guess you would have to pay for an insurance policy that paid for all the things needed for you to live a reasonable life?
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so you'd like the public to give you $4000 per year for your healthcare? |
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05-15-2018, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by scottw
so you'd like the public to give you $4000 per year for your healthcare?
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We here in the USA currently pay more than 4K per capita for healthcare with tax dollars.
I just want our total expenditures per capita to be in the middle of comparable countries
Not 30% more than the next highest.
I think tax deductions do not count in those numbers but are also a real cost
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05-15-2018, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by scottw
so you'd like the public to give you $4000 per year for your healthcare?
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And you still can’t answer the question
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