Space force

[wdmso]

http://video.foxnews.com/v/579891713...#sp=show-clips


when is enough a enough seriously

[scottw]

Originally Posted by wdmso

http://video.foxnews.com/v/579891713...#sp=show-clips


when is enough a enough seriously

you'd think the moonbats would be in favor

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by scottw

you'd think the moonbats would be in favor

They’re just upset because they didn’t think of it first

All the Trekkies are conflicted now
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[Nebe]

Wasn’t th starship troopers part of space force ?
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[Sea Dangles]

Pioneering
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

Pioneering
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Pushing and expanding the limits of scientific knowledge, is of no value. At least, not unless a democrat thought of it first.

[JohnR]

Far be it for anyone to break it down as a worthy consideration - ya know because Trump said it so it must be bad therefore we are required to near jerk to the opposite viewpoint.

Well, a couple weeks ago a pretty smart guy when it comes to NatSec stuff & the re-emerging Great Power Competition penned this.

So before all y'all trash, read:

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/...rity-interest/

[Pete F.]

They penned this also
https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/...ing-dictators/
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Pushing and expanding the limits of scientific knowledge, is of no value. At least, not unless a democrat thought of it first.

The republican party doesn't believe in scientific knowledge you of all people should know that.. and seems in accounting as well... hows he going to pay for it ???

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by JohnR

Far be it for anyone to break it down as a worthy consideration - ya know because Trump said it so it must be bad therefore we are required to near jerk to the opposite viewpoint.

Well, a couple weeks ago a pretty smart guy when it comes to NatSec stuff & the re-emerging Great Power Competition penned this.

So before all y'all trash, read:

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/...rity-interest/

very fishy wouldn't you say

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

They penned this also
https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/...ing-dictators/
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About as dumb a false equivalency as you've stated, IMO. Shall we go through the instances where NYT is right or wrong? The Atlantic?

Jerry Hendrix is a pretty smart policy wonk and a recognized expert. You probably would have been OK with it were it penned on Mother Jones, though. Right?

Originally Posted by wdmso

very fishy wouldn't you say

No. Please do tell us what you mean.

[JohnR]

PS - I don't think a separate "Force" is the answer. But we do need to better factor in what peer/near peer competition is doing in space - as well as our role in that space.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

The republican party doesn't believe in scientific knowledge you of all people should know that.. and seems in accounting as well... hows he going to pay for it ???

Who says we don’t like science? How about the science of what goes on in the womb, which side abandons science for ideology in that case?

We can pay for it by switching all public employees from stupid fat pensions to self funded 401ks like everyone else did over 20 years ago. There’s your accounting lesson.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by JohnR

About as dumb a false equivalency as you've stated, IMO. Shall we go through the instances where NYT is right or wrong? The Atlantic?

Jerry Hendrix is a pretty smart policy wonk and a recognized expert. You probably would have been OK with it were it penned on Mother Jones, though. Right?



No. Please do tell us what you mean.

TRUMP reads the story on the 8th and makes an announcement 18th or did he see it on fox and friends

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by JohnR

PS - I don't think a separate "Force" is the answer. But we do need to better factor in what peer/near peer competition is doing in space - as well as our role in that space.

That is more my issue with the announcement ... we dont need another branch we have been developing space weapons for decades it's not new

[Cool Beans]

I went down to the recruiter to sign up, but saw Spence in line ahead of me and decided maybe I will wait on joining the Space Force.

On a more serious note, I think, the more crazy stuff he throws out there the more the media and left don't see what he is actually doing. He's like a magician drawing attention away from his hand that holds the coin. If the democrats don't keep a careful eye on what is happening before they know it they will see a new immigration policy sneak by them, while they are laughing at the Space Force.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Who says we don’t like science? How about the science of what goes on in the womb, which side abandons science for ideology in that case?

We can pay for it by switching all public employees from stupid fat pensions to self funded 401ks like everyone else did over 20 years ago. There’s your accounting lesson.
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It always about abortion but once their born your tune changes

You sound like a socialist wanting to take bread off another's table because you don't have what they have....

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Cool Beans

I went down to the recruiter to sign up, but saw Spence in line ahead of me and decided maybe I will wait on joining the Space Force.

On a more serious note, I think, the more crazy stuff he throws out there the more the media and left don't see what he is actually doing. He's like a magician drawing attention away from his hand that holds the coin. If the democrats don't keep a careful eye on what is happening before they know it they will see a new immigration policy sneak by them, while they are laughing at the Space Force.

It's scary that you don't have an issue with the POTUS acting in such a manner

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

It always about abortion but once their born your tune changes

You sound like a socialist wanting to take bread off another's table because you don't have what they have....

You brought up science. Abortion is an issue where the left ignores science. And anytime arithmetic has to do with pensions.

No friend, I don’t want what’s yours. You are the one who wants, and expects, me to fund my retirement as well as yours. If you want a fat pension you can save up and buy one, why does the public have to buy it for you? It’s the public unions who are entitled to what I have. Not vice versa.
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[zimmy]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

You brought up science. Abortion is an issue where the left ignores science.
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I think you are confusing science and religion. You are a messed up person. Every statement you make is " the left... The left..." There are plenty of people on the left who have intelligent, well thought out views about abortion laws. Not everyone who disagrees with you is wrong.
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by JohnR

About as dumb a false equivalency as you've stated, IMO. Shall we go through the instances where NYT is right or wrong? The Atlantic?

Jerry Hendrix is a pretty smart policy wonk and a recognized expert. You probably would have been OK with it were it penned on Mother Jones, though. Right?
.

No, actually I thought they were correct on both counts.
My father worked in aerospace as. An engineer for most of his working life for ARMA, Northrup and Simmons. All the stuff to the moon and beyond.
It would be good to see that pursuit of knowledge again.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

You brought up science. Abortion is an issue where the left ignores science. And anytime arithmetic has to do with pensions.

No friend, I don’t want what’s yours. You are the one who wants, and expects, me to fund my retirement as well as yours. If you want a fat pension you can save up and buy one, why does the public have to buy it for you? It’s the public unions who are entitled to what I have. Not vice versa.
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your just another angry guy.. I pay into my own retirement I get paid to do a Job that you decided you didn't want ... Corporate America and the private sector played you and are still Screwing hard working Americans like yourself .. but its easier to blame the person to your left and the right of you than the hand that feds you ...

seems the states with those you despise with the most public employees per capita are Majority Red

http://www.governing.com/news/headli...-analysis.html


So you think space force is a great Idea

[scottw]

Originally Posted by wdmso

So you think space force is a great Idea

yup...

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by zimmy

I think you are confusing science and religion. You are a messed up person. Every statement you make is " the left... The left..." There are plenty of people on the left who have intelligent, well thought out views about abortion laws. Not everyone who disagrees with you is wrong.
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So it’s ok for wdmso to say that republicans don’t like science, but it’s “messed up” when I respond. Only the left gets to attack on party lines, I missed that announcement, but you have my deepest apologies. When you can’t make someone wrong, but you don’t have it in you to admit they have a point, you can always attack.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

your just another angry guy.. I pay into my own retirement I get paid to do a Job that you decided you didn't want ... Corporate America and the private sector played you and are still Screwing hard working Americans like yourself .. but its easier to blame the person to your left and the right of you than the hand that feds you ...

seems the states with those you despise with the most public employees per capita are Majority Red

http://www.governing.com/news/headli...-analysis.html


So you think space force is a great Idea

So you’re not necessarily angry when you say I don’t like science, but I’m angry when I show what a stupid statement that is. Got it.

Youvpay a portion of the cost of your pension, and you feel entitled to ask your neighbors to pay for the rest. Is that true, or is that false?

The private sector you endlessly slam, is where every cent of your compensation comes from. Every cent, comes from taxes confiscated from your neighbors. How can you be that ungrateful and unappreciative? I was a public schoolteacher in CT, and I always was aware of the debt I owed to people that worked in the private sector, and I also saw firsthand the contempt that many public servants have for the public they claim to serve.
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[JohnR]

Originally Posted by wdmso

your just another angry guy.. I pay into my own retirement I get paid to do a Job that you decided you didn't want ... Corporate America and the private sector played you and are still Screwing hard working Americans like yourself .. but its easier to blame the person to your left and the right of you than the hand that feds you ...

seems the states with those you despise with the most public employees per capita are Majority Red

http://www.governing.com/news/headli...-analysis.html


So you think space force is a great Idea

Except a Space Force is federal - which was left out of the link / stats you provided

So the Red states are more likely to have more Public Sector Employees.

Now let's do the states that pay most on average. Bet you won't guess which ones they are. I wonder of the red states can afford more public employees?


https://thestacker.com/stories/354/b...c-employees#51

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Did anyone actually watch Trump’s announcement?
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[Pete F.]

The problem is that once again Trump doesn't understand that he does not rule.
He cannot create anything, he needs Congress to do it.
I will admit that I don't understand why we need NASA, Air Force and Space Force as separate entities. They seem to be redundant and on the development and operations sides the personnel would be very similar.

[zimmy]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

So it’s ok for wdmso to say that republicans don’t like science, but it’s “messed up” when I respond. Only the left gets to attack on party lines, I missed that announcement, but you have my deepest apologies. When you can’t make someone wrong, but you don’t have it in you to admit they have a point, you can always attack.
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You generally don't have a point when you think you do is the point. You throw out nonsense as if it is fact. If it wasn't you, I might suggest you have 20-30 children. Think of all those potential lives you are preventing by limiting your procreation.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

So you’re not necessarily angry when you say I don’t like science, but I’m angry when I show what a stupid statement that is. Got it.

Youvpay a portion of the cost of your pension, and you feel entitled to ask your neighbors to pay for the rest. Is that true, or is that false?

The private sector you endlessly slam, is where every cent of your compensation comes from. Every cent, comes from taxes confiscated from your neighbors. How can you be that ungrateful and unappreciative? I was a public schoolteacher in CT, and I always was aware of the debt I owed to people that worked in the private sector, and I also saw firsthand the contempt that many public servants have for the public they claim to serve.
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You dont understand the private sector does a job they have no obligation to thank people like you who for what ever reason think they should get a pat on the back for paying the same taxes they do the arrogance is stunning