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Old 07-10-2018, 11:52 AM   #1
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If you don't agree with Kavanaugh's nomination at the very least pick another name off the list of 25 that you would support and say why.
That is pretty hard for anyone less than far right of center. All 25 were vetted first by both the Federalist Society and the Heritage foundation...

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Old 07-10-2018, 12:15 PM   #2
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That is pretty hard for anyone less than far right of center. All 25 were vetted first by both the Federalist Society and the Heritage foundation...
I understand. But the nomination of conservative SC justices is something that comes with winning the past election. If you win you get to call the shots and try and get your picks in. I remember a past president said something to the effect of "Elections have consequences". Kind of like that. Some people can go crazy but at the end of the day he may get his pick into the SC.

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Harvard Law School professor Charles Fried, who served as U.S. Solicitor General under President Ronald Reagan and was part of the committee that put Warren in a tenure position, said in a written statement that her ethnicity never came up during the process.

Fried, who donated $250 to Warren's campaign, told the Republican, a Springfield, Mass., newspaper, in 2012, "This stuff I hear that she was an affirmative action hire, got some kind of a boost, it is so ludicrous and so desperately stupid and ignorant, it just boggles the mind."
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I've heard this from people, that she made the declaration AFTER she was hired. But she also knew that this was a big box to check in Academia (if you think it is not you are fooling yourself). Tom Nichols (a NeverTrumper BTW) who's opinion I trust and consider even when I don't agree with his statements, had a great point; he know's people in Academia that *COULD* claim some minor ethnicity due to family lure and how well that plays in Academia but they DON'T when the cannot document that heritage. Warren went with it. Whether before or after the hire she went with it because it would boost her own rating.

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My understanding is she checked the box AFTER she was hired filling out some paperwork they use to document minority employees. The person who hired her has publicly stated they had no knowledge of any minority status and it wasn't a factor.

I think she genuinely believes she has some ancestry. This is just a political hit job to smear a woman with a pretty impressive resume.
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Old 07-10-2018, 04:08 PM   #4
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I've heard this from people, that she made the declaration AFTER she was hired. But she also knew that this was a big box to check in Academia (if you think it is not you are fooling yourself). Tom Nichols (a NeverTrumper BTW) who's opinion I trust and consider even when I don't agree with his statements, had a great point; he know's people in Academia that *COULD* claim some minor ethnicity due to family lure and how well that plays in Academia but they DON'T when the cannot document that heritage. Warren went with it. Whether before or after the hire she went with it because it would boost her own rating.
I don't think you have ANY evidence to justify your speculation. I've also never heard of a single instance where she received any benefit for this consideration.

Reality is she's extremely smart and passionate which makes her a threat. Put this political smear in context of her significant career and it's insignificant.
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I don't think you have ANY evidence to justify your speculation. I've also never heard of a single instance where she received any benefit for this consideration.

Reality is she's extremely smart and passionate which makes her a threat. Put this political smear in context of her significant career and it's insignificant.
Judge Kavanaugh is also extremely smart and passionate. Your side is saying that if he gets confirmed, then many women will die. Is that fair?

I don’t see warren as a threat, you are missing the point. She’s a liar and/or a lunatic. She’s a world class hypocrite ( attacks banks for profiting from school loans, yet she made 400k teaching at Harvard; criticizes banks for the subprime mortgage mess, yet she profited from flipping foreclosures). She is a huge gift to my side, I hope she runs for President.
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Judge Kavanaugh is also extremely smart and passionate. Your side is saying that if he gets confirmed, then many women will die. Is that fair?
I don't know exactly how he'll vote but if you deny women access to the health care they need I'm sure some will die.

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You do think she's a threat that's why you can't think straight. She's not a hypocrite. She understands the economy and finance. Hell, she used to be a Republican.

Your flipping foreclosures argument got three Pinocchio's by the Washington Post just FYI.
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I don't know exactly how he'll vote but if you deny women access to the health care they need I'm sure some will die.


You do think she's a threat that's why you can't think straight. She's not a hypocrite. She understands the economy and finance. Hell, she used to be a Republican.

Your flipping foreclosures argument got three Pinocchio's by the Washington Post just FYI.
"if you deny women access to the health care they need I'm sure some will die."

Where to begin...

(1) first, before Roe V Wade, I believe abortion was legal when the life of the mom was in actual jeopardy. That is very rare. The overwhelming majority of abortions today, are done for convenience, not necessity. Let's frame it honestly for a second. I know that's very challenging for your side on this issue, but let's try.

(2) even if Roe V Wade was overturned, THAT DOES NOT OUTLAW ABORTION. It means that the question would go to the states. Very few states would outlaw early-stage convenience abortions, and you know this. State would only do this if a majority of the citizens wanted it that way, and that's how it's supposed to work.

"You do think she's a threat "

I think she's a deranged, hypocritical, azzhole. And she's not a threat to my side, she's a valuable asset. because evefry time she opens her big, fat, commie, 100% Caucasian mouth, money gets donated to the GOP. I would not want her to go away, heck I want her to run for POTUS.

"that's why you can't think straight"

She refuses to take the DNA test that will settle this. So I know she's lying, there's no other reason not to take the test. You are the one in denial, the one not thinking straight.

"She's not a hypocrite"

So when she says it's wrong for banks to profit off of college tuition, but it's OK if she profits off of college tuition...you don't think that's hypocritical? Can you elaborate? Have fun trying.

Not your best work here, Spence.
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Your flipping foreclosures argument got three Pinocchio's by the Washington Post just FYI.
How about my argument about her profiting from college students going into debt, while she says it's unethical for banks to do the same. Let's focus on that.
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I understand. But the nomination of conservative SC justices is something that comes with winning the past election. If you win you get to call the shots and try and get your picks in. I remember a past president said something to the effect of "Elections have consequences". Kind of like that. Some people can go crazy but at the end of the day he may get his pick into the SC.
EXACTLY. I guess elections only have consequences when democrats win.

I get why the dems are pissed that Merrick Garland didn't get confirmed. But the American people freely chose to give control of the senate to the GOP, and common sense suggests that they didn't do so, so that they'd let Obama do whatever he wanted.

When the American people decide to give senate control back to the democrats (in other words, when we decide we'd all be better off with smaller paychecks), then the democrats can confirm whoever they want.
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That is pretty hard for anyone less than far right of center. .
where exactly is the center...?
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where exactly is the center...?
Somewhere well left of you

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