Hilarys emails

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by spence

Did she even know any classified information was on her server? I'm not sure she did...

First of all, I bet she did - she just did not care. This kind of traffic does not BELONG on unclass systems.

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

I have every email ever sent to me for the past 9 years.

Not a single one contains any classified material....because my email is on an unclass system. It actually takes some added effort to put classified info onto an unclass system, which anybody who works with classified systems knows. It just doesn’t “bleed” over like you like to think happens.

There ARE no excuses for negligence. I hope nobody trusts you with classified systems, because you obviously don’t take it seriously.
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^^^

Originally Posted by spence

Can someone delete this thread and bad Jim from talking about Clinton's emails again...I see his OP went viral in the mainstream media

Nope

Originally Posted by detbuch

Isn't the fact that info may be classified retroactively another reason for using government servers rather than unsecured private ones? You are still guilty of exposing that classified material on your private server even if it was not classified at the time of interception.

Yep - this is reason #2 why NO EFFING BODY runs their own server. Some stupid people *might* use Gmail or something online (which is less susceptible to compromise than Hillary's Server).

Reason #1 is it EFFING ILLEGAL.

Originally Posted by detbuch

And things being "talked about" in the NY Times is not an impressive or convincing reference.

There are new revelations of wiping Yoga and Wedding plans ? Like with a cloth?

Originally Posted by spence

It speaks to the process. State didn't use much secure anything before this flap.

Process:
Rice used a State.gov email account. Condi did not have her email on Hillary's server.

[spence]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Are you saying that Hillary's server was just as secure as the government's servers? Why would she even apologize for using hers if that were so? If she had used State's servers, no investigation of her would have been needed.

And you dodged my question.

I meant secure as in a classified system. My understanding is that State has operated primarily on regular gov email up until recently.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by spence

I meant secure as in a classified system. My understanding is that State has operated primarily on regular gov email up until recently.

Does anyone know what he is trying to say here?

And you dodged my question again (you do that a lot).
But that's OK, JohnR answered it very well. Retroactive classification is a reason to use a secure server, not a reason to excuse transmitting it before it is classified.

[PaulS]

Bump just to give people the same people a chance to criticize Trump. LOL

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Bump just to give people the same people a chance to criticize Trump. LOL

Trump broke the rules and should
be held accountable and should never run for office again.

fair enough?
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[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Trump broke the rules and should
be held accountable and should never run for office again.

fair enough?
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That's it? How many posts and threads did you make about Hillary but that is it for Trump even though what he did appears to be far worse?

And let's see all the people who commented if they come back and comment on Trump?

Bruce, TDF, John, SD, DZ, Scott.

It is Hillarius.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

That's it? How many posts and threads did you make about Hillary but that is it for Trump even though what he did appears to be far worse?

And let's see all the people who commented if they come back and comment on Trump?

Bruce, TDF, John, SD, DZ, Scott.

It is Hillarius.

tell me how
many posts you’d like me to make. this, coming from the guy who cries about how often i post. now you’re crying that i don’t post more. which is it?

do you have the same number of posts criticizing the left as you criticize the right?

i’ve made lots of posts here bashing trumps lack of ethics.

grasping at straws.
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[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

tell me how
many posts you’d like me to make. this, coming from the guy who cries about how often i post. now you’re crying that i don’t post more. which is it?

do you have the same number of posts criticizing the left as you criticize the right? no, not even close. I don't praise the left in posts or threads other than to point out the hypocrisy of criticizing one side when the other side does the same thing.

i’ve made lots of posts here bashing trumps lack of ethics.

grasping at straws.
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Make as many as you want. But you went on and on with hundreds of posts about the server but the more egregious stealing and destroying of classified docs seemed to be ok.

[The Dad Fisherman]

If he illegally moved classified material, he should be held accountable under the full extent of the law, up to and including prison time.
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[PaulS]

[wdmso]

Again not sure why Jim didn’t post this story. I know he and other were more concerned That Obama wasn’t wearing a mask Priorities?

National Archives asks Justice Dept. to investigate Trump’s handling of White House records

So let’s see this goes 1 of 2 ways

He tore them up and because he’s a baby.

Or He took and Tore them up because he’s a baby and trying to hide from the Truth or lies those documents may hold

But but Hillary emails. How do it go?

Oh yea. LOCK HER UP !
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[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Again not sure why Jim didn’t post this story. I know he and other were more concerned That Obama wasn’t wearing a mask Priorities?

National Archives asks Justice Dept. to investigate Trump’s handling of White House records

So let’s see this goes 1 of 2 ways

He tore them up and because he’s a baby.

Or He took and Tore them up because he’s a baby and trying to hide from the Truth or lies those documents may hold

But but Hillary emails. How do it go?

Oh yea. LOCK HER UP !
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Normally he'd have his lawyer or accountant hide all the criminal acts, so he can keep his hands clean and say hey I didn't know. I guess in the white house maybe it wasn't that easy to set up the usual fall guys.

Frankly tearing up those documents is against federal law, have they not charged him yet because more is coming down the line? His actions are criminal both on the records and the attempt to change the election, wonder if this AG has the balls to charge the idiot. He surrounded himself with like idiots, who just continue to go on talk shows to reveal what they were attempting, what the plan was and who was involved. It is amazing that this idiot still has such a grip on the republican party, I almost hope he can run again, as I think it would bring out a massive turnout to keep him out of the white house again.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

Normally he'd have his lawyer or accountant hide all the criminal acts, so he can keep his hands clean and say hey I didn't know. I guess in the white house maybe it wasn't that easy to set up the usual fall guys.

Frankly tearing up those documents is against federal law, have they not charged him yet because more is coming down the line? His actions are criminal both on the records and the attempt to change the election, wonder if this AG has the balls to charge the idiot. He surrounded himself with like idiots, who just continue to go on talk shows to reveal what they were attempting, what the plan was and who was involved. It is amazing that this idiot still has such a grip on the republican party, I almost hope he can run again, as I think it would bring out a massive turnout to keep him out of the white house again.

Another report just came out that he clogged WH toilets trying to flush documents. No wonder he complained that people had to flush their toilet 10 - 15 times.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Another report just came out that he clogged WH toilets trying to flush documents.

the source is a NY Times reporter so the source is questionable at best...and this is what was written/said...

“I learned that staff in the White House residence would periodically find the toilet clogged, the engineer would have to come and fix it. And what the engineer would generally find would be wads of, you know, wet, printed paper, meaning it was not toilet paper, this was either notes or some other piece of paper that they believed he had thrown down the toilet,” Haberman said during an appearance on CNN on Thursday morning.“What it could be, Brianna, could be anybody’s guess. It could be post-its, it could be notes he wrote to himself, it could be other things,” Haberman added. “It certainly does add, as you said, another dimension to what we know about how he handled material in the White House.”


it's fun that the left has become so insane that some are fretting and wondering about what was in trump's toilet...

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Again not sure why Jim didn’t post this story. I know he and other were more concerned That Obama wasn’t wearing a mask Priorities?

National Archives asks Justice Dept. to investigate Trump’s handling of White House records

So let’s see this goes 1 of 2 ways

He tore them up and because he’s a baby.

Or He took and Tore them up because he’s a baby and trying to hide from the Truth or lies those documents may hold

But but Hillary emails. How do it go?

Oh yea. LOCK HER UP !
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She didn't get locked up. So . . . goose/gander

[Pete F.]

The National Archives (not DOJ or FBI) recovered 15(?) boxes of documents from Mar a Lago 13 months after they "left" the White House.

How many boxes would have been uncovered on January 21st, 2021?
We'll never know how much was removed, shredded, or flushed during the interim.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by detbuch

She didn't get locked up. So . . . goose/gander

Why is that the line of defense from Conservatives and Republicans on anything Trump

No blood no foul. Or they didn’t succeed ? Stepping right over Intent as if it doesn’t matter


Some Trump records taken to Mar-a-Lago clearly marked as classified, including documents at ‘top secret’ level

But but
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Stepping right over Intent as if it doesn’t matter

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you are constantly quick assume intent....


"Citing two people familiar with the matter, The Post reported on Thursday......

It is unclear how many classified documents were recovered by the National Archives, according to The Post.

Two sources told the newspaper that some records had labels signaling that the information within was very sensitive...

The National Archives has reportedly asked the Department of Justice to look into Trump’s handling of documents related to his time in the White House following the reports of records being seized from Mar-a-Lago.

The Post reported on Wednesday that the referral from the National Archives sparked conversation among federal prosecutors about potentially probing if Trump committed a crime by not properly turning over records.


It is reportedly unclear, however, if the department will go ahead with such an effort."


geez....I wonder why?

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by scottw

you are constantly quick assume intent....


"Citing two people familiar with the matter, The Post reported on Thursday......

It is unclear how many classified documents were recovered by the National Archives, according to The Post.

Two sources told the newspaper that some records had labels signaling that the information within was very sensitive...

The National Archives has reportedly asked the Department of Justice to look into Trump’s handling of documents related to his time in the White House following the reports of records being seized from Mar-a-Lago.

The Post reported on Wednesday that the referral from the National Archives sparked conversation among federal prosecutors about potentially probing if Trump committed a crime by not properly turning over records.


It is reportedly unclear, however, if the department will go ahead with such an effort."


geez....I wonder why?

Seems you and I have a different understanding of unclear .

It tells me no decisions have been made


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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Why is that the line of defense from Conservatives and Republicans on anything Trump

No blood no foul. Or they didn’t succeed ? Stepping right over Intent as if it doesn’t matter


Some Trump records taken to Mar-a-Lago clearly marked as classified, including documents at ‘top secret’ level

But but
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Don't know how you got all that from my sarcastic what-aboutism. You might be the king of what-aboutisms on this forum. I just threw it back atcha. And as for intent, Hillary's intent was clearly to hide information she had no right to hide.

[scottw]

I heard trump used Bleachbit to clean the toilet after he flushed the troves of top secret documents, then he injected some to protect him from covid

[Got Stripers]

If only we could flush Trump from our minds and politics, the guy is going to go down in history as the nut job we (meaning you) elected to president. Top secret files taken to his golf course, missing phone logs, flushing records in the Oval Office toilet; if you saw this in a movie you’d change the channel as it’s to fu*ked up.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

If only we could flush Trump from our minds and politics, the guy is going to go down in history as the nut job we (meaning you) elected to president. Top secret files taken to his golf course, missing phone logs, flushing records in the Oval Office toilet; if you saw this in a movie you’d change the channel as it’s to fu*ked up.

some dummies continue to obsess over him....

[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by scottw

to many GOP dummies continue to obsess over him....

Fixed

[Pete F.]

Everything Donald Trump accused others of doing, whether it was Hillary Clinton or his Republican rivals, we keep finding out he did it himself. Literally everything.
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