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10-10-2018, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Jim cares, he gets very threatened and reacts angrily to any viewpoint that doesn't fit his.
I'm always curious about different viewpoints, especially one's I have not seen before because we all look at things from different directions.
I have a few new quotes for you
“Closed-minded people don’t want their ideas challenged.”
― Ray Dalio, Principles: Life and Work
“I urge you to be curious enough to want to understand how the people who see things differently from you came to see them that way.”
― Ray Dalio, Principles: Life and Work
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"Jim cares, he gets very threatened and reacts angrily to any viewpoint that doesn't fit his."
I respond to your nonsense with common sense and truth. I'm not the least bit threatened by your opinion of Republicans. Why would I be? Have you seen how well the GOP has done since 2008? There's not much more I could ask for, Pete, except maybe here in CT.
You think everyone who responds to you, feels threatened by you?
"“Closed-minded people don’t want their ideas challenged.”
But you don't challenge Republican ideas, all you do is post links to people who say we are horrible racists. That's not challenging our ideas.
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10-10-2018, 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
"Jim cares, he gets very threatened and reacts angrily to any viewpoint that doesn't fit his."
I respond to your nonsense with common sense and truth. I'm not the least bit threatened by your opinion of Republicans. Why would I be? Have you seen how well the GOP has done since 2008? There's not much more I could ask for, Pete, except maybe here in CT.
You think everyone who responds to you, feels threatened by you?
"“Closed-minded people don’t want their ideas challenged.”
But you don't challenge Republican ideas, all you do is post links to people who say we are horrible racists. That's not challenging our ideas.
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Trump is a racist
That a rising tide floats all boats is a given, that immigrants cost Americans is quite simply not quantified so simply.
Without immigrants there would only be native Americans living here
You’ll tell me that is not true because the data sample you want to use is smaller than that
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Lets Go Darwin
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10-11-2018, 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Trump is a racist
That a rising tide floats all boats is a given, that immigrants cost Americans is quite simply not quantified so simply.
Without immigrants there would only be native Americans living here
You’ll tell me that is not true because the data sample you want to use is smaller than that
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so when millions of penniless, unskilled, uneducated immigrants come here, and many aren’t paying income taxes, yet we have to help them with shelter, food, medical care, we have to provide police and fire protection, and we have to educate their children, you aren’t convinced that’s not a drain on our finances? You can’t be convinced of what you refuse to believe, I guess.
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10-11-2018, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
so when millions of penniless, unskilled, uneducated immigrants come here, and many aren’t paying income taxes, yet we have to help them with shelter, food, medical care, we have to provide police and fire protection, and we have to educate their children, you aren’t convinced that’s not a drain on our finances? You can’t be convinced of what you refuse to believe, I guess.
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Find the data that proves what you claim
https://www.thebalance.com/how-immig...conomy-4125413
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5794227/
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/artic...erican-economy
http://budgetmodel.wharton.upenn.edu...states-economy
https://www.theamericanconservative....r-immigration/
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Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
Lets Go Darwin
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10-11-2018, 09:08 AM
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That's one so obvious, I don't need the data, and any data that suggests otherwise, is politically motivated bullsh*t.
People who go on welfare and who have kids in public school, can't be paying their own way. I'm happy to help people who need it, including legal immigrants. But don't try to convince anyone that they are a net gain to the bottom line. That's nonsense.
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10-11-2018, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
That's one so obvious, I don't need the data, and any data that suggests otherwise, is politically motivated bullsh*t.
People who go on welfare and who have kids in public school, can't be paying their own way. I'm happy to help people who need it, including legal immigrants. But don't try to convince anyone that they are a net gain to the bottom line. That's nonsense.
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You just made my point, you have no evidence, just listened to Faux and therefore it is true.
If what you claim is true and immigrants are a drain on society, America would have been getting worse and worse since the Pilgrims arrived. In the eyes of the Native Americans you would be correct.
The same was said about the Italians, the Irish, the Polish, the Asians and all the other groups that came here. It was not true then and is not now.
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Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
Lets Go Darwin
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10-11-2018, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
You just made my point, you have no evidence, just listened to Faux and therefore it is true.
If what you claim is true and immigrants are a drain on society, America would have been getting worse and worse since the Pilgrims arrived. In the eyes of the Native Americans you would be correct.
The same was said about the Italians, the Irish, the Polish, the Asians and all the other groups that came here. It was not true then and is not now.
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I do have evidence, I don't have data. Unskilled immigrants are obviously far more likely to be on welfare because they are unskilled and uneducated. They have children who must go to school, which even liberals know is expensive. And many don't pay income taxes.
This isn't limited to Mexican immigrants, never said it was. I happily concede that European immigrants are also a big financial drain. You have a real habit of "responding" to things that no one has ever said.
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10-10-2018, 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
"Jim cares, he gets very threatened and reacts angrily to any viewpoint that doesn't fit his."
I respond to your nonsense with common sense and truth. I'm not the least bit threatened by your opinion of Republicans. Why would I be? Have you seen how well the GOP has done since 2008? There's not much more I could ask for, Pete, except maybe here in CT.
You think everyone who responds to you, feels threatened by you?
"“Closed-minded people don’t want their ideas challenged.”
But you don't challenge Republican ideas, all you do is post links to people who say we are horrible racists. That's not challenging our ideas.
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Pete lives in a home absent of mirrors.
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PRO CHOICE REPUBLICAN
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