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11-08-2018, 11:58 AM
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Were the people in the synagogue at fault in any way? An extremist attacked them with much worse results.
Now you guys are equating Central American refugees or migrants with Nazis?
It’s okay if you do that?
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11-08-2018, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Now you guys are equating Central American refugees or migrants with Nazis?
It’s okay if you do that?
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A, you have any names to put with the "You Guys" claim?
B, I know Jim used the word "Nazi" and "Trump"in a sentence without directly using it as an adjective to describe Trump, But Jim in no way was equating the refugees to the Nazis. He was using it to provide some context for the term "invasion"
Again, people wonder why the political climate is so banged up 
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11-08-2018, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
A, you have any names to put with the "You Guys" claim?
B, I know Jim used the word "Nazi" and "Trump"in a sentence without directly using it as an adjective to describe Trump, But Jim in no way was equating the refugees to the Nazis. He was using to provide some context for the term "invasion"
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Quite a Trumpian context, do you honestly think that the 1.5 million armed Nazis attacking Poland as they bombed their airfields and attacked their naval forces were doing so with the hope of living there among the people, or with the intent of being accepted as refugees?
What happened to the Caravan, funny that after the election it became a non issue.
The Central American issues still exist, nothing will be done to solve the underlying problems that are causing the migration. Sad |
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11-08-2018, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
What happened to the Caravan, funny that after the election it became a non issue.
The Central American issues still exist, nothing will be done to solve the underlying problems that are causing the migration. Sad
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Well at least THIS makes sense. |
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11-08-2018, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
A, you have any names to put with the "You Guys" claim?
B, I know Jim used the word "Nazi" and "Trump"in a sentence without directly using it as an adjective to describe Trump, But Jim in no way was equating the refugees to the Nazis. He was using it to provide some context for the term "invasion"
Again, people wonder why the political climate is so banged up |
Lots of broken brains in the age of Trump. Thanks for clarifying what I said... |
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11-08-2018, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
no doubt was a good night for democrats nationally, without question.
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A good night but I don't know if as good as expected???
Rep. held Ohio and Fl - both big.
Dems. got Wisc and can't recall if Colo. was D. before.
I was glad Collins (NY) lost. Hoping Hunter (Calif) and Menendez (NJ) would not win and King from Iowa or Idaho??.
I think people are deceived themselves if they thought Betto would win Fl. Abrams in GA and Menendez would loose in NJ.
I wanted the blond from Arizona to win - for selfish reasons  although she needs smaller glasses. |
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11-08-2018, 01:15 PM
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I think people are deceived themselves if they thought Betto would win Fl.
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that would have been the biggest upset of the night, considering he was running in Texas  |
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11-08-2018, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
that would have been the biggest upset of the night, considering he was running in Texas |
voter fraud. |
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11-08-2018, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
A good night but I don't know if as good as expected???
Rep. held Ohio and Fl - both big.
Dems. got Wisc and can't recall if Colo. was D. before.
I was glad Collins (NY) lost. Hoping Hunter (Calif) and Menendez (NJ) would not win and King from Iowa or Idaho??.
I think people are deceived themselves if they thought Betto would win Fl. Abrams in GA and Menendez would loose in NJ.
I wanted the blond from Arizona to win - for selfish reasons although she needs smaller glasses. |
No, not as big as expected (maybe more accurately, not as big as hoped), not nearly what the GOP got in 2010. But the GOP was very, very lucky with which senate seats happened to be up.
But if I was a democrat, I'd be excited about how close the senate races are in AZ and TX. I'd also be scared to death about Ruth Bader Ginsberg's fall. |
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11-08-2018, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
No, not as big as expected (maybe more accurately, not as big as hoped),
But if I was a democrat, I'd be excited about how close the senate races are in AZ and TX. I'd also be scared to death about Ruth Bader Ginsberg's fall.
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Yes, should have said "hoped" by the Dems.
Rib injuries are painful. But if they happen on a Thurs. night the pain will be much less on Monday morn. Pain pills help 
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11-08-2018, 01:33 PM
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On RBG
One would hope that the people appointed to the Supreme Court are wiser than the Democrats fears and the Republicans hopes, or vice versa.
They historically have been quite unpredictable, when you least expect it.
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11-08-2018, 03:39 PM
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By that reasoning the "camps" that migrants, refugees or invaders are in would fall under the Geneva Convention, is that correct? And the people captured would be prisoners of war? He just opened up a whole new can of worms and I think/hope he will have a hard time getting our armed forces to commit war crimes.
This stuff has all been defined and Trump being "unconventional" is not helping.
History has shown us why diplomacy is important and less expensive than war, he can ignore history at our peril. His kids won't go to war, ours will.
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11-08-2018, 04:26 PM
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Are we now supposed to believe Antifa is not tied to the Democratic Party but the KKK is nothing but republicans in sheets? What a disgrace and joke the libs have evolved into.
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11-08-2018, 04:34 PM
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They are Soros funded blackshirts comprised of useful angry idiots who are playing their part in the propaganda war to subvert our Republic.
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The United States Constitution does not exist to grant you rights; those rights are inherent within you. Rather it exists to frame a limited government so that those natural rights can be exercised freely.
1984 was a warning, not a guidebook!
It's time more people spoke up with the truth. Every time we let a leftist lie go uncorrected, the commies get stronger.
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11-08-2018, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Slipknot
They are Soros funded blackshirts comprised of useful angry idiots who are playing their part in the propaganda war to subvert our Republic.
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I guess It's not only fish that take a Hook, Line & Sinker. Got any proof of this fantasy.
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11-08-2018, 07:12 PM
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I guess It's not only fish that take a Hook, Line & Sinker. Got any proof of this fantasy.
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I think it’s pretty funny that since Antifa is anti fascist they must be democrats.
While white nationalists are slobbering over trump like a hound dog in heat.
Just let that sink in.
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11-08-2018, 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
I think it’s pretty funny that since Antifa is anti fascist they must be democrats.
It's not convincing to call yourself anti-fascist while acting like Nazi's and fascists.
While white nationalists are slobbering over trump like a hound dog in heat.
Just let that sink in.
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So if someone slobbers over YOU that means you like that person. Just let that sink in. |
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11-08-2018, 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles
Are we now supposed to believe Antifa is not tied to the Democratic Party but the KKK is nothing but republicans in sheets? Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
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Well MSNBC and CNN keep saying it, so yes, you are supposed to believe it. And it's not the least bit stupid. |
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11-08-2018, 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles
Are we now supposed to believe Antifa is not tied to the Democratic Party but the KKK is nothing but republicans in sheets? What a disgrace and joke the libs have evolved into.
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Trump HAS re-tweeted a number of white supremacists, at least one of which has been in a leadership position for the KKK.
That doesn’t mean the Klan is a republican boys club with sheets, but it does make them trump supporters in sheets, and he’s not doing a lot to distance himself from that.
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11-08-2018, 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Ian
Trump HAS re-tweeted a number of white supremacists, at least one of which has been in a leadership position for the KKK.
That doesn’t mean the Klan is a republican boys club with sheets, but it does make them trump supporters in sheets, and he’s not doing a lot to distance himself from that.
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This "not doing enough" is a political talking point. He has a Jewish daughter and grandchildren. He moved our embassy to Jerusalem. He has renounced David Duke several times. I don't know very many politicians that have done more.
Let me ask you directly: do you believe that Trump supports the KKK? Do you think he is a white supremacist?
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11-08-2018, 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
This "not doing enough" is a political talking point. He has a Jewish daughter and grandchildren. He moved our embassy to Jerusalem. He has renounced David Duke several times. I don't know very many politicians that have done more.
Let me ask you directly: do you believe that Trump supports the KKK? Do you think he is a white supremacist?
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No, but I don’t think he minds being supported by them. And I think he tactfully toss a line of saying some pretty effed up stuff just to appeal to them so they’ll vote for him.
I also don’t think he’s a white supremacist, but my explanation above works here too.
Now if you ask me if I mind that our country is run by someone with such a fragile ego and cheap conscience that he’s willing to pander to these people’s darkest beliefs, then my answer is yes, that bothers me and makes me believe he’s a spineless sh$thead who will literally say or do anything to make people like him.
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11-08-2018, 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Ian
No, but I don’t think he minds being supported by them. And I think he tactfully toss a line of saying some pretty effed up stuff just to appeal to them so they’ll vote for him.
I also don’t think he’s a white supremacist, but my explanation above works here too.
Now if you ask me if I mind that our country is run by someone with such a fragile ego and cheap conscience that he’s willing to pander to these people’s darkest beliefs, then my answer is yes, that bothers me and makes me believe he’s a spineless sh$thead who will literally say or do anything to make people like him.
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So, if Antifa types vote, who do you think they vote for when it's between a Republican and a Democrat? Do you think that privately Dems would mind if they got those votes? And I don't see this extraordinary effort by Dems to discredit Antifa and to distant themselves from them. And I recall, don't remember by who, some on the left trying to justify what Antifa does. |
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11-08-2018, 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Ian
Trump HAS re-tweeted a number of white supremacists, at least one of which has been in a leadership position for the KKK.
That doesn’t mean the Klan is a republican boys club with sheets, but it does make them trump supporters in sheets, and he’s not doing a lot to distance himself from that.
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If u don’t think antifa thinks they are affiliated with the libs then wake up. ButI am sure you can provide examples of the party trying to distance themselves.
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11-08-2018, 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles
Are we now supposed to believe Antifa is not tied to the Democratic Party but the KKK is nothing but republicans in sheets? What a disgrace and joke the libs have evolved into.
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https://www.vox.com/2017/8/25/161890...ight-mark-bray |
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11-08-2018, 06:29 PM
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"Ivasion" Webster definition #2: the incoming or spread of something usually hurtful.
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11-08-2018, 06:50 PM
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What the Mainstream Media WON'T Tell You About The Migrant Caravan Crisis regarding who the "migrants' actually are--they are not mostly women and children. And they are not all peaceful Hondurans and Guatemalans:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=JIfBBOv0CPg |
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11-08-2018, 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
What the Mainstream Media WON'T Tell You About The Migrant Caravan Crisis regarding who the "migrants' actually are--they are not mostly women and children. And they are not all peaceful Hondurans and Guatemalans:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=JIfBBOv0CPg |
Any time I get linked to a YouTube video that actually says in its description “mainstream media”, I don’t watch it... it’s a personal rule I have
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11-08-2018, 08:20 PM
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Any time I get linked to a YouTube video that actually says in its description “mainstream media”, I don’t watch it... it’s a personal rule I have
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who the "migrants' actually are--they are not mostly women and children. And they are not all peaceful Hondurans and Guatemalans:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=JIfBBOv0CPg
Removed the offending words. Now you can watch it. |
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11-08-2018, 08:25 PM
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It’s not your words I was referring to... the video is from Judicial watch and literally says “what the mainstream media won’t tell you”
I am going out on a limb here and saying this isn’t the most unbiased source for information on this topic
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11-08-2018, 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Ian
It’s not your words I was referring to... the video is from Judicial watch and literally says “what the mainstream media won’t tell you”
I am going out on a limb here and saying this isn’t the most unbiased source for information on this topic
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If you are only going to watch unbiased videos, then don't watch any that involve political viewpoints. Fox News (who were part of uncovering the facts in this video and broadcasting them) is not more biased than CNN or NBC or ABC. Maybe you just shouldn't watch or read any news outlet.
In this case, you're choosing to be willfully uninformed.
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