Is Trump a dealmaker?

[Got Stripers]

Love the fact four Heads of DHS, including Kelly, sent Trump a letter requesting he end the shutdown. The aviation industry sent a letter with a dire warning that the risks to the public are growing and they are predicting if this goes on the entire system is at risk to down. There are economists predicting zero first quarter growth if this doesn’t end, but Lara Trump and a couple on this board feel this “little” bite of pain is worth it.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

Love the fact four Heads of DHS, including Kelly, sent Trump a letter requesting he end the shutdown. The aviation industry sent a letter with a dire warning that the risks to the public are growing and they are predicting if this goes on the entire system is at risk to down. There are economists predicting zero first quarter growth if this doesn’t end, but Lara Trump and a couple on this board feel this “little” bite of pain is worth it.
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Pain is easy to handle when it's not you in pain and those here commented it's only 1 pay check

They Wouldn't work an hour never mind 40hrs if they weren't getting paid at the end of the week

And some are naive to think banks and lenders are going to play nice once they do get paid , computers don't care

It's sad Americans willing to see other Americans suffer ... because Trump lost the house .... such an honorable reason seeing he couldn't get his wall 2 years earlier

IF IT WAS THEIR SS CHECK WHAT A DIFFERENT TUNE THEY WOULD SING

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by wdmso

They Wouldn't work an hour never mind 40hrs if they weren't getting paid at the end of the week

I work for DoD, I work every shutdown without knowing if I'm getting a check as we are considered essential. This one I am OK because the DoD already has its funding secured for 2019

Fed paychecks don't come out every week either, they are bi-weekly. Tomorrow they will miss their 2nd check. I have plenty of sympathy for people who aren't getting paid, but some in the media were whining about it before anybody missed a single check. Where were the Soup Kitchen stories in 2013?

I've also never said the shutdown doesn't suck, because it does. There's plenty of blame to go around on this one.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Fed paychecks don't come out every week either, they are bi-weekly. Tomorrow they will miss their 2nd check. I have plenty of sympathy for people who aren't getting paid, but some in the media were whining about it before anybody missed a single check. Where were the Soup Kitchen stories in 2013?I have read that like 40% of the American public can't fund an unexpected $400 charge (like a car repair or ER bill). So some of it might be people budgeting what they will do w/o their 1st check and knowing they won't have the $ for mortgage, elec. ect. I have always said I am fortunate that I can miss a check w/o it impacting my life.

I've also never said the shutdown doesn't suck, because it does. There's plenty of blame to go around on this one.

agree on the blame part

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by PaulS

I have read that like 40% of the American public can't fund an unexpected $400 charge (like a car repair or ER bill). So some of it might be people budgeting what they will do w/o their 1st check and knowing they won't have the $ for mortgage, elec. ect. I have always said I am fortunate that I can miss a check w/o it impacting my life.

Like I said, the shutdown does suck. But people are affected the same way during lay-offs and strikes, yet they manage to survive.

There are options for those affected. They can collect unemployent (it will have to be paid back when they get their retro pay, but it should help with bills.) or find some temp work to get you by (unemployment is low so that can be a plus).

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

I work for DoD, I work every shutdown without knowing if I'm getting a check as we are considered essential. This one I am OK because the DoD already has its funding secured for 2019

Fed paychecks don't come out every week either, they are bi-weekly. Tomorrow they will miss their 2nd check. I have plenty of sympathy for people who aren't getting paid, but some in the media were whining about it before anybody missed a single check. Where were the Soup Kitchen stories in 2013?

I've also never said the shutdown doesn't suck, because it does. There's plenty of blame to go around on this one.

That where we disagree the blame is at best is 90% TRUMP 9% GOP and 1% Dems ...it all boils down to They had 2 years and did nothing

And the Vast amount of americans also see it from what it is

New poll shows a vast majority of Americans blame President Trump for shutdown


Published: Jan 24, 2019 1:06 p.m. ET


According to an AP-NORC poll, 6 in 10 Americans blame Trump for the government shutdown.

[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by wdmso

That where we disagree the blame is at best is 90% TRUMP 9% GOP and 1% Dems ...it all boils down to They had 2 years and did nothing

And the Vast amount of americans also see it from what it is

New poll shows a vast majority of Americans blame President Trump for shutdown


Published: Jan 24, 2019 1:06 p.m. ET


According to an AP-NORC poll, 6 in 10 Americans blame Trump for the government shutdown.

This is classic blame game snowflake BS
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

This is classic blame game snowflake BS
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Rasmussen 55% disapprove
He’s on track to kill the Republican Party and doesn’t care as long as he wins
Wilber Ross has already alienated most people affected by the shutdown.
All that needs to happen is a plane crash or a terrorist attack and the Trumplicans will have a long row back upriver
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[spence]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Rasmussen 55% disapprove
He’s on track to kill the Republican Party and doesn’t care as long as he wins
Wilber Ross has already alienated most people affected by the shutdown.
All that needs to happen is a plane crash or a terrorist attack and the Trumplicans will have a long row back upriver
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71% now don’t think the wall is worth a shutdown. That’s an amazing number. Must be a lot of snowflakes out there. A blizzard really.
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[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Rasmussen 55% disapprove
He’s on track to kill the Republican Party and doesn’t care as long as he wins
Wilber Ross has already alienated most people affected by the shutdown.
All that needs to happen is a plane crash or a terrorist attack and the Trumplicans will have a long row back upriver
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Flavor of the day PeteF?
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Pain is easy to handle when it's not you in pain and those here commented it's only 1 pay check

They Wouldn't work an hour never mind 40hrs if they weren't getting paid at the end of the week

And some are naive to think banks and lenders are going to play nice once they do get paid , computers don't care

It's sad Americans willing to see other Americans suffer ... because Trump lost the house .... such an honorable reason seeing he couldn't get his wall 2 years earlier

IF IT WAS THEIR SS CHECK WHAT A DIFFERENT TUNE THEY WOULD SING

show me the evidence that anyone lost their homes because they missed a paycheck or two. it will not happen.

“computers don’t care”.

that’s genius. computers do what the programmers tell them
to do. the banks will work with these people.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

show me the evidence that anyone lost their homes because they missed a paycheck or two. it will not happen.

“computers don’t care”.

that’s genius. computers do what the programmers tell them
to do. the banks will work with these people.
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we can revisit this after its over

but wilbur thinks people can just get loans to hold them over How Kind of him.. and hostages can get therapy after released ... donst change the fact why it happened in the 1st place