Shut down ends

[wdmso]

About time ... now well see who were the winners and who were the losers

the deal sounds like the original deal

but had to throw this in ....

If we don't get a fair deal from Congress the government will either shut down on February 15 again.

"Or I will use the powers afforded to me under the laws and the constitution of the United States to address this emergency."

[spence]

Losers are the American people especially government workers, the GOP and the President. It's amazing the master negotiator ended up getting nothing but plummeting poll numbers.

Trump either has to go with a bi-partisan plan or declare an emergency which he'll likely lose in court. Any way you slice it this isn't what winning looks like.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Losers are the American people especially government workers, the GOP and the President. It's amazing the master negotiator ended up getting nothing but plummeting poll numbers.

Trump either has to go with a bi-partisan plan or declare an emergency which he'll likely lose in court. Any way you slice it this isn't what winning looks like.

He's gonna get pummeled on this issue, without question.

[Cool Beans]

Originally Posted by spence

Losers are the American people especially government workers, the GOP and the President. It's amazing the master negotiator ended up getting nothing but plummeting poll numbers.

Trump either has to go with a bi-partisan plan or declare an emergency which he'll likely lose in court. Any way you slice it this isn't what winning looks like.

Yep, just like last time "furloughed" for 18 days... can't go to work... but wait... once they approved the damn budget.. we got paid for those furlough days, just as if we were working... ended up actually being nearly 3 paid weeks off.

So ya you're right Trump is Satan and Hitler rolled into one....

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Cool Beans

Yep, just like last time "furloughed" for 18 days... can't go to work... but wait... once they approved the damn budget.. we got paid for those furlough days, just as if we were working... ended up actually being nearly 3 paid weeks off.

So ya you're right Trump is Satan and Hitler rolled into one....

was that the shutdown during obama’s presidency? federal workers missed a paycheck? there sure wasn’t anywhere near this
much concern.
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[spence]

Originally Posted by Cool Beans

Yep, just like last time "furloughed" for 18 days... can't go to work... but wait... once they approved the damn budget.. we got paid for those furlough days, just as if we were working... ended up actually being nearly 3 paid weeks off.

So ya you're right Trump is Satan and Hitler rolled into one....

Perhaps if you were a janitor or TSA employee you’d think differently. I remember living paycheck to paycheck at one time.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Perhaps if you were a janitor or TSA employee you’d think differently. I remember living paycheck to paycheck at one time.
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but where was the media uproar last time? i agree shutdowns hurt innocent people, i’m just not sure that people
furloughed by trump are more victimized than people
furloughed under obama, but the media coverage, like in every other issue, reflects an agenda.
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[Cool Beans]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Well said!

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

but where was the media uproar last time? i agree shutdowns hurt innocent people, i’m just not sure that people
furloughed by trump are more victimized than people
furloughed under obama, but the media coverage, like in every other issue, reflects an agenda.
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There was one but the climate is different now. Trump is going to hype everything and the entire system is going to respond in kind.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

There was one but the climate is different now. Trump is going to hype everything and the entire system is going to respond in kind.
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“the climate is different now”.

oh, i agree. in this climate an adult can get in the face of a child, and claim to be the victim, and the child gets death threats for standing still in the face of the jerk adult, and you can’t say that anything wrong has happened.

the climate has been different since bush. bush was hitler. McCain was a senile old racist. Romney objectifies women by keeping their resumes in a binder.
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[wdmso]

Seems once again people are confused why we had this shut down and obama shut down ill give them a hint it was driven by republicans

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

oh, i agree. in this climate an adult can get in the face of a child, and claim to be the victim, and the child gets death threats for standing still in the face of the jerk adult, and you can’t say that anything wrong has happened.

I did say many things wrong happened. The chapparones were AWOL and the kids escalated the situation. Black Isrealites helped by insulting everyone.

Thank god for those jerks with the drums, they may have prevented a riot.

the climate has been different since bush. bush was hitler. McCain was a senile old racist. Romney objectifies women by keeping their resumes in a binder.
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Climate has been different since Clinton. Blame Newt, Tom Delay etc...

How many GOP House Speakers or Majority Leaders have had legal
Issues since then?
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[Sea Dangles]

Everything bad that has ever happened,Wayne can link to the Republican Party. He is what is known as a real snowflake. I can tell he is not fronting.
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[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by spence

I did say many things wrong happened. The chapparones were AWOL and the kids escalated the situation. Black Isrealites helped by insulting everyone.

Thank god for those jerks with the drums, they may have prevented a riot.

That may be true Jeff, certainly you have a valid opinion there. I hope you notice the brave,praying Indian chose the path of least resistance here. Certainly a safer path,where he attempted to intimidate/incite a high school field trip. It may just be the two groups were in cahoots in another attempt to discredit the oppressed.

Climate has been different since Clinton. Blame Newt, Tom Delay etc...

How many GOP House Speakers or Majority Leaders have had legal
Issues since then?
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

Everything bad that has ever happened,Wayne can link to the Republican Party. He is what is known as a real snowflake. I can tell he is not fronting.
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Again you can't accept the facts how typical

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Seems once again people are confused why we had this shut down and obama shut down ill give them a hint it was driven by republicans

whatever. but obama was potus, and there was nowhere near the hysteria. why? there is one possible answer, Trump.
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[Jim in CT]

spence you say phillips
de escalated things. by lying about every detail? calling the kids beasts, calling the black men their pray, saying the kid got in his path, saying the kids were chanting build
the wall?

All bullsh*t, all irrefutable bullsh*t, all designed to demonize children. Children. and they got death threats, because people
like you got chubbies at the thought of white catholics in maga hats picking on an innocent, victimized native american elder.

yeah, you go on thinking that Phillips helped the children.
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[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

spence you say phillips
de escalated things. by lying about every detail? calling the kids beasts, calling the black men their pray, saying the kid got in his path, saying the kids were chanting build
the wall?

All bullsh*t, all irrefutable bullsh*t, all designed to demonize children. Children. and they got death threats, because people
like you got chubbies at the thought of white catholics in maga hats picking on an innocent, victimized native american elder.

yeah, you go on thinking that Phillips helped the children.
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I can call your local crisis center. You ok?
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[Cool Beans]

Can we just start the damn civil war already? This site is a perfect example of how we will never agree on anything.

[Nebe]

Originally Posted by Cool Beans

Can we just start the damn civil war already? This site is a perfect example of how we will never agree on anything.

NO WE CANT
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Cool Beans

Can we just start the damn civil war already?

it's coming...thankfully, while the left has been collecting safe spaces and emotional support pets...the right has been collecting guns and stockpiling ammo...

may the odds be ever in your favor...

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

Thank god for those jerks with the drums, they may have prevented a riot.

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Spence there is a video shot and narrated by one of the black Israelites that shows the crowd of kids at a distance...the guy narrating and the other black Israelites ( the guys that CNN described as " four young African Americans who were there teaching about the bible and oppression") screaming obscenities and threatening the group(which I guess you'd describe as "praying")....the group moves AWAY from the black Israelites and keeps going in fact the black Israelites are taunting them as they move off yelling "that's right run away"...

your narrative is a joke...

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by scottw

Spence there is a video shot and narrated by one of the black Israelites that shows the crowd of kids at a distance...the guy narrating and the other black Israelites ( the guys that CNN described as " four young African Americans who were there teaching about the bible and oppression") screaming obscenities and threatening the group(which I guess you'd describe as "praying")....the group moves AWAY from the black Israelites and keeps going in fact the black Israelites are taunting them as they move off yelling "that's right run away"...

your narrative is a joke...

and then there’s Phillips, also saying the white kids were picking on the poor black israelites, calling the kids beasts, and the blacks their prey. and spence is still
saying the kids contributed to this, and that Phillips played a favorable role.

there’s no talking to these people.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

whatever. but obama was potus, and there was nowhere near the hysteria. why? there is one possible answer, Trump.
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obama was potus what's your point ? you cant sign a bill if one is never sent

Turtle boy wouldn't send a bill unless Trump liked it 1st since when is that how this works...

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

obama was potus what's your point ? you cant sign a bill if one is never sent

Turtle boy wouldn't send a bill unless Trump liked it 1st since when is that how this works...

my point was that when federal workers were furloughed under obama, the media didn’t make the stink they’re making today. why? why is it so much worse to get furloughed by trump than by obama?
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

there’s no talking to these people.

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I'd like to get a red "MAKE ANTARCTICA GREAT AGAIN" hat and wear it around just for fun ......but I'd have to worry about nuts like Spence becoming irrationally triggered and vandalizing my car

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

my point was that when federal workers were furloughed under obama, the media didn’t make the stink they’re making today. why? why is it so much worse to get furloughed by trump than by obama?
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what part of the Reason Why( A bs Lie and he lost the house )is the reason we had the shut down ... Trump caused the stink it wasn't created by the media ... and now he is trying to look like the hero to funny

Jim the But but but obama Mantra only works on the uninformed and Trump faith full


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I wish people would read or listen to my words on the Border Wall. This was in no way a concession. It was taking care of millions of people who were getting badly hurt by the Shutdown with the understanding that in 21 days, if no deal is done, it’s off to the races!

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

my point was that when federal workers were furloughed under obama, the media didn’t make the stink they’re making today. why? why is it so much worse to get furloughed by trump than by obama?
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53% of Americans blamed Republicans for the Obama shutdown
Republicans are getting better at that, this time with McConnell hiding they got Trump to take the blame
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[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by scottw

I'd like to get a red "MAKE ANTARCTICA GREAT AGAIN" hat and wear it around just for fun ......but I'd have to worry about nuts like Spence becoming irrationally triggered and vandalizing my car

The hat itself is what triggers racism. The left simply become sideways when they see the hat.🤯
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[Nebe]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

The hat itself is what triggers racism. The left simply become sideways when they see the hat.🤯
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Kind of like a KKK hood.
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