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04-04-2019, 08:21 PM
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Fox news is state run tv, right?
I watched most of Tucker Carlson tonight, first time in a while.
He did a 3 minute monologue, bashing Trump for proposing to cut Medicare, for proposing to raise the gas tax, for giving so
much of the tax cut benefit to the wealthy and to corporations, and Carlson proposed raising taxes on capital
gains and dividends instead of the gas tax. Also criticized Trump for not addressing immigration and letting drug dealers go.
Pete and WDMSO, in 3 minutes, that might be more honest, fair criticism than MSNBC and CNN gave Obama in 8 years.
This is the host of the 8 PM show, who just tore into Trump. And in some cases, he took a liberal viewpoint ( saying that cuts to medicaid are bad).
Pete and WDMSO, Your thoughts? Not an attack, I’m sincerely wondering what you think.
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04-05-2019, 07:12 AM
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I actually was answering emails and saw that but wasn't really paying much attention. He did complain about the gas tax and said if we need $ for highways to reverse some of the tax cuts. I haven't seen carlson that much. I've have seen chris wallace bash Trump. I agree CNN doesn't have people who bash Dems. They will put 1 righty panelist with 2 left panelists but no righty anchor.
However........the leads on fox have gone over the line on praising Trump. You would never have cnn anchors on stage w/a Pres. They all are saying Trump was cleared of obstruction when Mueller didn't say that. Also, there have never been private phone calls between a Dem. pres. and the left equiv. of fox and friends or hannity. Go on line and read the NY times mag. this week about fox and Murdoch and the coordination w/trump.
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04-05-2019, 07:29 AM
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I actually was answering emails and saw that but wasn't really paying much attention. He did complain about the gas tax and said if we need $ for highways to reverse some of the tax cuts. I haven't seen carlson that much. I've have seen chris wallace bash Trump. I agree CNN doesn't have people who bash Dems. They will put 1 righty panelist with 2 left panelists but no righty anchor.
However........the leads on fox have gone over the line on praising Trump. You would never have cnn anchors on stage w/a Pres. They all are saying Trump was cleared of obstruction when Mueller didn't say that. Also, there have never been private phone calls between a Dem. pres. and the left equiv. of fox and friends or hannity. Go on line and read the NY times mag. this week about fox and Murdoch and the coordination w/trump.
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I wasn't aiming this at you, as I've said before I disagree with you, but you're honest.
"the leads on fox have gone over the line on praising Trump"
besides Fox & Friends and Sean Hannity, who else refuses to say anything bad about him? Megyn Kelly was enormously popular,. she hated him. Chris Wallace, Brett Baier, Tucker Carlson, and Laura Ingraham criticize Trump all the time. I think if you saw the numbers of the % of coverage that's favorable/unfavorable at Fox, CNN, MSNBC for the Obama/Trump presidencies, the bias would be obvious.
"there have never been private phone calls between a Dem. pres. and the left equiv. of fox and friends or hannity."
How could you possibly know that, if they are private?
There's more to Foxnews than Hannity and Fox and Friends. Those are two shows. Hannity is the single biggest show (for some reason?), but he is sandwiched between two hosts who bash Trump regularly.
I find myself really, really liking Tucker Carlson.
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04-05-2019, 07:31 AM
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Go on line and read the NY times mag. this week about fox and Murdoch and the coordination w/trump.
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And CNN gave debate questions to Hilary, and suggested that those who criticize Hilary, should have been shut down by the FBI.
I have little reason to doubt that Trump coordinates with Fox. And there's no way that didn't happen with Obama and CNN/MSNBC.
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04-05-2019, 07:38 AM
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Roger Ailes gave debate questions to Trump according to I believe Megyn Kelly. If someone on CNN asked Comey if those criticizing hillary should be shut down, so what? Anyone can ask any quesiton they want.
I hardly ever watch fox or MSNBC and rarely watch cnn. I have seen ingraham more than carlson and I haven't heard her crit. trump = only praise.
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04-05-2019, 07:55 AM
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[QUOTE=PaulS;1165204 If someone on CNN asked Comey if those criticizing hillary should be shut down, so what? Anyone can ask any quesiton they want.
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Now you're doing what the liars do. I never ever said she can't ask whatever she wants. But if she asks if Hilary critics should be silenced by the FBI, while I would never say she can't ask that question, it's also obvious that her asking that question means that she thinks the DOJ should be in the business of helping democrats get elected. There's some evidence to suggest the DOJ engaged in exactly that purpose.
How did CNN know to be at Roger Stones house at 5:30 in the morning, the day he got arrested? No one else was there at that hour. I'm supposed to not conclude, that the DOJ tipped off CNN, to make the Trump administration look bad on TV?
I'm not saying Fox isn't biased, of course they are. But they are ONE station, that on a good night, gets 1% of the population watching. Everyone else is watching news that just as biased in the other direction (far more biased in my opinion, as the other networks have no one like Tucker Carlson or Brett Baier or Chris Wallace).
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04-05-2019, 08:08 AM
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clearly you only saw and heard what you wanted... did you watch anything before or after.. the gas tax? pure red meat Conservative Stuff AOC how women hate men
who starts Criticism with Lets say Trump wants to loose in 2020
then starts rattling off what if's then goes on about the Gas Tax
Could you see that as criticism of Trump I guess
then goes after romney , Amazon (using our roads ) , the immigrants money they send home or any Iphone tax
and if you live outside the coastal cities and are not rich
From the Hill ..
Trump must avoid gas tax trap Democrats are setting for him
the new American Could Proposed Gas-tax Hike Burn Down Trump’s Reelection Chances?
Tucker carlson was Throwing Trump a lifeline dont do it hint hint wink wink .. Far from the criticism its a pattern on Fox
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04-05-2019, 08:39 AM
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Now you're doing what the liars do. I never ever said she can't ask whatever she wants. But if she asks if Hilary critics should be silenced by the FBI, while I would never say she can't ask that question, it's also obvious that her asking that question means that she thinks the DOJ should be in the business of helping democrats get elected. There's some evidence to suggest the DOJ engaged in exactly that purpose.Other than seeing what that thread was about I haven't opened since it was started so I don't know the context. How could the FBI silence anyone (other than the obvious stuff like yelling fire in a movie)?
How did CNN know to be at Roger Stones house at 5:30 in the morning, the day he got arrested? No one else was there at that hour. I'm supposed to not conclude, that the DOJ tipped off CNN, to make the Trump administration look bad on TV?If I remember correctly CNN said they had been there for a few days bc something happened in a court??? so they thought arrests were forthcoming.
I'm not saying Fox isn't biased, of course they are. But they are ONE station, that on a good night, gets 1% of the population watching. Everyone else is watching news that just as biased in the other direction (far more biased in my opinion, as the other networks have no one like Tucker Carlson or Brett Baier or Chris Wallace).
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I've agreed that there are some anchors on fox that will crit. trump more than cnn anchors crit. Obama but I think the praise for Trump is more than the praise for obama was plus there seems to be more behind the scenes interaction w/fox.
Sorry - got a lot of work to do today.
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04-05-2019, 08:48 AM
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clearly you only saw and heard what you wanted... did you watch anything before or after.. the gas tax? pure red meat Conservative Stuff AOC how women hate men
who starts Criticism with Lets say Trump wants to loose in 2020
then starts rattling off what if's then goes on about the Gas Tax
Could you see that as criticism of Trump I guess
then goes after romney , Amazon (using our roads ) , the immigrants money they send home or any Iphone tax
and if you live outside the coastal cities and are not rich
From the Hill ..
Trump must avoid gas tax trap Democrats are setting for him
the new American Could Proposed Gas-tax Hike Burn Down Trump’s Reelection Chances?
Tucker carlson was Throwing Trump a lifeline dont do it hint hint wink wink .. Far from the criticism its a pattern on Fox
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"clearly you only saw and heard what you wanted... did you watch anything before or after"
I watched the segment. YOU are the one who seems to be ignoring that which doesn't serve your agenda...
"the gas tax? pure red meat Conservative Stuff "
YOu deny that increasing gas tax, hurts average Americans? OK, maybe that's subjective.
I note that you left out all the things Carlson said, which would make a rational person conclude that he's not a right wing nut. Carlson explicitly attacked Trump for talking about cutting Medicare. Carlson explicitly attacked Trump for giving so much of the tax cut benefits to the wealthy and corporations. Carlson called for big increases to taxes on capital gains and dividends.
WDMSO, how come you left out all those items that Carlson discussed?
Carlson's entire point, is that Trumps ideas in those areas are so bad, so unhealthy for the middle class, that Carlsonspeculated he was trying to lose on purpose.
Is that Carlson bowing to Trump? Or is that Carlson disemboweling Trump?
I very specifically listed the things Carlson discussed, and I included things that conservatives would agree with, and things liberals would agree with. You, very strategically, ignored all of the items Carlson articulated that are "liberal", like leaving Medicare alone and increasing capital gains and dividend taxes.
You simply cannot recognize, process, or accept...anything which doesn't make him look like a right wing nut. Your brain cannot grasp that even though he's on Foxnews, he supports some ideas that are more liberal in nature, that he supports some big ideas that you agree with.
He agrees with you on some big issues, and you can't accept that. Because in your view, conservative=bad, always, zero exceptions.
What are you afraid would happen, exactly, if you conceded that you respect that Carlson is willing to deviate from Republican ideology to call for tax hikes on capital gains and dividends? Carlson explicitly said it's not fair that wealthy people pay such a low tax rate because of capital gains and dividends. We all know you agree with him. But you can't say it.
That says a lot more about you, than it does about me or Foxnews.
"Could you see that as criticism of Trump I guess "
Oh, you GUESS that was criticism of Trump? Did you watch the segment?
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04-05-2019, 09:00 AM
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I've agreed that there are some anchors on fox that will crit. trump more than cnn anchors crit. Obama but I think the praise for Trump is more than the praise for obama was plus there seems to be more behind the scenes interaction w/fox.
Sorry - got a lot of work to do today.
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"Other than seeing what that thread was about I haven't opened since it was started so I don't know the context. How could the FBI silence anyone (other than the obvious stuff like yelling fire in a movie)?"
The CNN anchor was implying that criticizing Hilary, is the equivalent of yelling fire, and should possibly therefore be subject to criminal arrest.
"Sorry - got a lot of work to do today."
Have a good one, and a good weekend.
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04-05-2019, 09:14 AM
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Now you're doing what the liars do. I never ever said she can't ask whatever she wants. But if she asks if Hilary critics should be silenced by the FBI, while I would never say she can't ask that question, it's also obvious that her asking that question means that she thinks the DOJ should be in the business of helping democrats get elected.
You really are indoctrinated and a true believer. She was interviewing James Comey, who was head of the FBI. Many people have watched the rallies and seen Trump toe the incitement line, winding up his crowd. You find it acceptable behavior, others do not.
She asked this question as a good interviewer would, knowing the answer and getting the correct expert opinion.
“Of course, ‘Lock her up’ was a feature of the 2016 Trump campaign. Do you in, retrospect, wish that people like yourself, the head of the FBI, the people in charge of law and order, had shut down that language, that it was dangerous potentially, that it could have created violence, that it kind of is hate speech?"
There's some evidence to suggest the DOJ engaged in exactly that purpose.
I suppose that's why Comey made his announcement about Clinton's emails days prior to the election and did not spill the beans on the Trump Russia investigation. Sure sign of a concerted political campaign.
How did CNN know to be at Roger Stones house at 5:30 in the morning, the day he got arrested? No one else was there at that hour. I'm supposed to not conclude, that the DOJ tipped off CNN, to make the Trump administration look bad on TV?
Only if you are falling in line with what Roger Stone wants you to believe, what do you think reporters do, sit around waiting so that they are last on the story? Everyone knew that the grand jury was up to something and there were a limited number of people they were interested in. Raid timing was typical FBI. Pretty likely they had teams at Corsi's, Don Jr's and other candidates.
I'm not saying Fox isn't biased, of course they are. But they are ONE station, that on a good night, gets 1% of the population watching. Everyone else is watching news that just as biased in the other direction (far more biased in my opinion, as the other networks have no one like Tucker Carlson or Brett Baier or Chris Wallace).
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What does 1% refer to?
Typical primetime Fox viewership is 85% of CNN and MSNBC combined.
Isn't Tucker the guy who's scared that women will make him wear glasses? It's time Tucker came out.
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04-05-2019, 09:48 AM
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What does 1% refer to?
Typical primetime Fox viewership is 85% of CNN and MSNBC combined.
Isn't Tucker the guy who's scared that women will make him wear glasses? It's time Tucker came out.
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Well Pete, in typical fashion, you completely ignored the question in the original post about Foxnews' willingness to let their enormously popular, 8PM host, attack Trump without mercy, and he did it articulately and rationally.
"that women will make him wear glasses? "
Ah. You know Tucker is more honest than you are, and you can't admit it, so you attack him personally. Also in typical fashion.
Even though you ignored my point, I'll address yours...
"What does 1% refer to?"
On a given night, around 3-4 million people watch Fox. The US population is around 325 million. So only around 1% of the US population watches Fox in primetime, the other 99% don't watch Fox, yet liberals and democrats can't stop obsessing over Fox.
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04-05-2019, 10:21 AM
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Well Pete, in typical fashion, you completely ignored the question in the original post about Foxnews' willingness to let their enormously popular, 8PM host, attack Trump without mercy, and he did it articulately and rationally.
"that women will make him wear glasses? "
Ah. You know Tucker is more honest than you are, and you can't admit it, so you attack him personally. Also in typical fashion.
Even though you ignored my point, I'll address yours...
"What does 1% refer to?"
On a given night, around 3-4 million people watch Fox. The US population is around 325 million. So only around 1% of the US population watches Fox in primetime, the other 99% don't watch Fox, yet liberals and democrats can't stop obsessing over Fox. Is that math going too fast for you?
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It has become evident that you will not convince Pete (and a few other regular Trump bashers) with reason and logic. Pete is sympathetic to a prominent reporter on national news suggesting that the FBI should have shut down the "hate speech" at Trump rallies.
Pete doesn't see that his daily anti-Trump rhetoric is loaded with hate. As well he doesn't recognize the same hate that emanates from the late night humor or "comic" shows such as Kimmel, Colbert, Fergusan, Oliver, Noah, Maher, and daytime TV shows featuring people like Joy Behar, Whoopi Goldberg, Rachel Maddow, et cetera. He and they, Pete seems to think, are being reasonable, rational, and rather than being rude Trumpicans, they are sophisticated with a deeply superior intellectual style. A style which, in itself, is self-evident as such, as necessarily laden with the actual truth.
Trump speech, on the other hand, don't you see, is crude ergo frightening and hateful. So hateful that it inspires violence. I mean, witness the violent shut downs of hateful Trump "true believers," as Pete calls them, at college campuses or the virulent attempts to shout down speech at Trump rallies. Obviously, the Petes et. al. hate speech doesn't promote such violence. It's the lock-her-up rhetoric that inspires attacks on itself.
No need for the CNN reporter to wonder if people like Comey shouldn't shut down the Pete et. al. folks. After all, their speech is not hateful.
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04-05-2019, 10:42 AM
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Well Pete, in typical fashion, you completely ignored the question in the original post about Foxnews' willingness to let their enormously popular, 8PM host, attack Trump without mercy, and he did it articulately and rationally.
"that women will make him wear glasses? "
Ah. You know Tucker is more honest than you are, and you can't admit it, so you attack him personally. Also in typical fashion.
Tucker attacks plenty of people, personally as do you
Even though you ignored my point, I'll address yours...
"What does 1% refer to?"
On a given night, around 3-4 million people watch Fox. The US population is around 325 million. So only around 1% of the US population watches Fox in primetime, the other 99% don't watch Fox, yet liberals and democrats can't stop obsessing over Fox.
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Putting it as 99% don't watch State TV, therefor they are watching elsewhere is untrue and misleading.
Typical primetime Fox Trump viewership is 85% of CNN and MSNBC combined.
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04-05-2019, 10:55 AM
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Putting it as 99% don't watch State TV, therefor they are watching elsewhere is untrue and misleading.
Typical primetime Fox Trump viewership is 85% of CNN and MSNBC combined.
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the fact is, 99% don’t watch foxnews, and are therefore unimpacted by any evil you claim is taking place there. that’s not untrue, it’s irrefutable fact. And i think the ratings at fox are more than 100% of cnn and
msnbc combined. and the Mueller hysteria was a disaster for CNN and MSNBC this far.
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04-05-2019, 11:06 AM
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Pete, this thread is about the network you call “state tv”, allowing it’s 8PM host to absolutely gut Trump like a fish. And he didn’t do what CNN and MSNBC do, he didn’t call Trump a traitor, he didn’t bash his appearance. Carlson went through a half dozen policies Trump advocates for, and Carlson explained why is his opinion, they’d be a disaster for America. It was opinion of course, but he was rational and articulate. it was extremely effective opposition research that you can bet CNN and MSNBC will use against Trump, it was a very effective critique of Trump.
Since you dodged the first time I asked, Ill ask one last time, what do you think of Fox allowing Carlson to do that?
The way CNN and MSNBC go after attump, it’s so irrational and hysterical and nonsensical, it actually helps Trump. What carlson did, could
be used as opppsition research by whoever runs against trump in 2020.
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04-05-2019, 11:12 AM
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It has become evident that you will not convince Pete (and a few other regular Trump bashers) with reason and logic. Pete is sympathetic to a prominent reporter on national news suggesting that the FBI should have shut down the "hate speech" at Trump rallies.
Pete doesn't see that his daily anti-Trump rhetoric is loaded with hate. As well he doesn't recognize the same hate that emanates from the late night humor or "comic" shows such as Kimmel, Colbert, Fergusan, Oliver, Noah, Maher, and daytime TV shows featuring people like Joy Behar, Whoopi Goldberg, Rachel Maddow, et cetera. He and they, Pete seems to think, are being reasonable, rational, and rather than being rude Trumpicans, they are sophisticated with a deeply superior intellectual style. A style which, in itself, is self-evident as such, as necessarily laden with the actual truth.
Trump speech, on the other hand, don't you see, is crude ergo frightening and hateful. So hateful that it inspires violence. I mean, witness the violent shut downs of hateful Trump "true believers," as Pete calls them, at college campuses or the virulent attempts to shout down speech at Trump rallies. Obviously, the Petes et. al. hate speech doesn't promote such violence. It's the lock-her-up rhetoric that inspires attacks on itself.
No need for the CNN reporter to wonder if people like Comey shouldn't shut down the Pete et. al. folks. After all, their speech is not hateful.
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Poor Trump, no other politician has ever been attacked by Comics.
No other President has ever given the late night comedians and the Talking Heads so much material, not even close. That's on him, saves them a lot of time coming up with fresh material.
He feels free to attack others and can't take it when he is called on it.
At a minimum so far this year, Trump has:
1. Met with Kim again with no result
2. Shut down the Government with no result
3. Declared an emergency that he claimed he didn't need to do
4. Threatened military action in Venezuela, the Russians came
5. Tried to kill the ACA with no replacement
6. Threatened to close the Southern Border entirely, and changed his mind
Reelect him, you'll get what you deserve
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Pete, this thread is about the network you call “state tv”, allowing it’s 8PM host to absolutely gut Trump like a fish. And he didn’t do what CNN and MSNBC do, he didn’t call Trump a traitor, he didn’t bash his appearance. Carlson went through a half dozen policies Trump advocates for, and Carlson explained why is his opinion, they’d be a disaster for America. It was opinion of course, but he was rational and articulate. it was extremely effective opposition research that you can bet CNN and MSNBC will use against Trump, it was a very effective critique of Trump.
Since you dodged the first time I asked, Ill ask one last time, what do you think of Fox allowing Carlson to do that?
The way CNN and MSNBC go after attump, it’s so irrational and hysterical and nonsensical, it actually helps Trump. What carlson did, could
be used as opppsition research by whoever runs against trump in 2020.
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It's lovely, that's part of one evening segment on State TV
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04-05-2019, 12:18 PM
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It's lovely, that's part of one evening segment on State TV
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Didn’t you claim that you don’t watch TV? Just curious.
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"clearly you only saw and heard what you wanted... did you watch anything before or after"
I watched the segment. YOU are the one who seems to be ignoring that which doesn't serve your agenda...
"the gas tax? pure red meat Conservative Stuff "
YOu deny that increasing gas tax, hurts average Americans? OK, maybe that's subjective.
I note that you left out all the things Carlson said, which would make a rational person conclude that he's not a right wing nut. Carlson explicitly attacked Trump for talking about cutting Medicare. Carlson explicitly attacked Trump for giving so much of the tax cut benefits to the wealthy and corporations. Carlson called for big increases to taxes on capital gains and dividends.
WDMSO, how come you left out all those items that Carlson discussed?
Carlson's entire point, is that Trumps ideas in those areas are so bad, so unhealthy for the middle class, that Carlsonspeculated he was trying to lose on purpose.
Is that Carlson bowing to Trump? Or is that Carlson disemboweling Trump?
I very specifically listed the things Carlson discussed, and I included things that conservatives would agree with, and things liberals would agree with. You, very strategically, ignored all of the items Carlson articulated that are "liberal", like leaving Medicare alone and increasing capital gains and dividend taxes.
You simply cannot recognize, process, or accept...anything which doesn't make him look like a right wing nut. Your brain cannot grasp that even though he's on Foxnews, he supports some ideas that are more liberal in nature, that he supports some big ideas that you agree with.
He agrees with you on some big issues, and you can't accept that. Because in your view, conservative=bad, always, zero exceptions.
What are you afraid would happen, exactly, if you conceded that you respect that Carlson is willing to deviate from Republican ideology to call for tax hikes on capital gains and dividends? Carlson explicitly said it's not fair that wealthy people pay such a low tax rate because of capital gains and dividends. We all know you agree with him. But you can't say it.
That says a lot more about you, than it does about me or Foxnews.
"Could you see that as criticism of Trump I guess "
Oh, you GUESS that was criticism of Trump? Did you watch the segment?
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I watched the whole thing
since when is criticism Telling and giving advice to Trump to tax other things and not the gas tax because it affects his base and he might lose the election ... in a normal world thats called advice
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The US President claimed that the Fed has "really slowed us down" in terms of economic growth, adding that "there's no inflation".
With his picks of Herman Cain and Stephen Moore to the Federal Reserve's Board of Governors, Donald Trump appears to be politicising America's central bank.
Cain and Moore appear to have been picked less for their experience and more for their loyalty to the President and have therefore provoked a great deal of political criticism.
thats what criticism looks like or do they just they hate trump
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04-05-2019, 12:32 PM
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Didn’t you claim that you don’t watch TV? Just curious.
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Why won’t you answer the question instead of showing me a website?
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04-05-2019, 01:03 PM
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#24
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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles
Why won’t you answer the question instead of showing me a website?
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Showed you exactly how I knew, I googled the lineup.
Your memory is correct, I don't have TV service.
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Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
Lets Go Darwin
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04-05-2019, 01:12 PM
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Now see what you can find out about Chris Wray's testimony to Congress yesterday on State TV.
I think they were too busy spreading BS.
Here's a headline that purports to lead to something that is not yet available and then goes to Barr's letter
Read the Mueller report findings:
Of course they are not State TV, no way
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Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
Lets Go Darwin
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04-05-2019, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
the fact is, 99% don’t watch foxnews, and are therefore unimpacted by any evil you claim is taking place there. that’s not untrue, it’s irrefutable fact. And i think the ratings at fox are more than 100% of cnn and
msnbc combined. and the Mueller hysteria was a disaster for CNN and MSNBC this far.
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I'm trying to follow your logic and irrefutable or perhaps alternative facts.
You are worried that somehow CNN and MSNBC are spreading news that FOX is evil and that is a big problem, but Fox is bigger than both of them combined and nobody watches CNN and MSNBC because of the Mueller investigation, that you claim was a disaster for them.
(Hint, nobody has seen it yet, the Republican Mueller and his team of prosecutors didn't leak, but Trump blatting incessantly about it for the past two years has certainly done great things for the media)
And almost nobody (1% of the population) watches FOX, but you are really worried about what the CNN and MSNBC (whom even less than 1% of the population watch) say about Don the Con.
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Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
Lets Go Darwin
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04-05-2019, 03:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete F.
I'm trying to follow your logic and irrefutable or perhaps alternative facts.
You are worried that somehow CNN and MSNBC are spreading news that FOX is evil and that is a big problem, but Fox is bigger than both of them combined and nobody watches CNN and MSNBC because of the Mueller investigation, that you claim was a disaster for them.
(Hint, nobody has seen it yet, the Republican Mueller and his team of prosecutors didn't leak, but Trump blatting incessantly about it for the past two years has certainly done great things for the media)
And almost nobody (1% of the population) watches FOX, but you are really worried about what the CNN and MSNBC (whom even less than 1% of the population watch) say about Don the Con.
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fox is bigger than cnn and msnbc. it’s not bigger when you add in abc, nbc, cbs, print media, google, and academia.
fox news is a speck on the sea of media and influence. but it’s a speck that doesn’t always conform to liberalism, andnin the true spirit of liberal tolerance, it must therefore be crushed.
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04-05-2019, 04:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete F.
Showed you exactly how I knew, I googled the lineup.
Your memory is correct, I don't have TV service.
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If this is how you communicate then that explains plenty. You are like half of Penn and Teller where you prefer props over actual give and take. I don’t watch any news, I get it here. It’s one thing to google the lineup. Although that seems a likely alibi my thought turns to the content of the broadcast. How do you get the breakdown of what was actually discussed with a simple lineup?
PS: try using honesty for a change.
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PRO CHOICE REPUBLICAN
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04-05-2019, 04:46 PM
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#29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sea Dangles
If this is how you communicate then that explains plenty. You are like half of Penn and Teller where you prefer props over actual give and take. I don’t watch any news, I get it here. It’s one thing to google the lineup. Although that seems a likely alibi my thought turns to the content of the broadcast. How do you get the breakdown of what was actually discussed with a simple lineup?
PS: try using honesty for a change.
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FU
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Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
Lets Go Darwin
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04-05-2019, 05:11 PM
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#30
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I thought so.
PPS:if you tell the truth, you don’t have to remember what you said.
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