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07-18-2019, 01:53 PM
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Is that full quote less offensive? is it less dismissive of the attack?
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Be honest your upset because she didn't say Muslims did it .. it as easy as that
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07-18-2019, 01:58 PM
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jim is intolerant of anti-American communists and that's a bad thing?
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who determines who is or isn't Anti American what's the standard for you and others
to warrant the Anti American sticker
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07-18-2019, 02:07 PM
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Be honest your upset because she didn't say Muslims did it .. it as easy as that
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stop speaking for me, you really stink at it.
if she said it was a terrible day and thousands of families were devastated, i’d have been fine with that. i don’t expect that maniac to admit muslims did it. but saying “some people did something” is very trump-like in terms of how unnecessarily offensive and insulting it is. her only concern about 9/11 in that speech, was that it made life harder for
muslims, not a syllable about 3,000 innocent people burned/crushed to death.
she’s completely deranged.
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07-18-2019, 02:10 PM
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who determines who is or isn't Anti American what's the standard for you and others
to warrant the Anti American sticker
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it’s like art, i can’t define it, but we knows it when we sees it.
she hates jews, disparages soldiers killed while trying to feed people in her native Somalia ( she’s always so grateful, isnt she), she said 09/11 was some people
doing something, she’s been very slow to condemn gays being stoned to death, and to condemn antifa retrying to firebomb an ice detention center, and supports the notion that federal law enforcement officers are running concentration camps.
unamerican sounds fairly accurate to me.
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07-18-2019, 02:16 PM
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Meh, December 7, 1941 was just some people flying over Hawaii
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"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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07-18-2019, 03:01 PM
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Some feel burning a flag is anti American. Some feel others fought for their right to do so. Perspective I guess. I am sure guys like PeteF. and WDSMO want them in their corner and would celebrate their actions as patriots.
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07-19-2019, 06:07 AM
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Some feel burning a flag is anti American. Some feel others fought for their right to do so. Perspective I guess. I am sure guys like PeteF. and WDSMO want them in their corner and would celebrate their actions as patriots.
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Some this some people. That.. what about you.. chris. where you stand always seems to be absent in most of responses ..
This anti Americanism labeling from the right is beyond omar. Shes the new face of the base anger... sorry but American 1st slogan has run its predictable course and morphed into the hate filled rants of The Potus .. the mob behaviour seen at his latest rally.. and Trump and minions now. trying to put the genie back in its bottle ... good luck
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07-19-2019, 06:13 AM
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Some this some people. That.. what about you.. chris. where you stand always seems to be absent in most of responses ..
This anti Americanism labeling from the right is beyond omar. Shes the new face of the base anger... sorry but American 1st slogan has run its predictable course and morphed into the hate filled rants of The Potus .. the mob behaviour seen at his latest rally.. and Trump and minions now. trying to put the genie back in its bottle ... good luck
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you’re saying the president shouldn’t proudly put america first?
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07-19-2019, 06:24 AM
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I heard that in response to "Make America Great Again" the democrats are unveiling their theme for 2020
"'No Borders, No Walls, No USA at All'
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07-19-2019, 06:25 AM
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Shes the new face of the base anger...
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I thought that was AOC?
have we declared "squad" a dirty word yet?
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07-19-2019, 06:28 AM
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stop speaking for me, you really stink at it.
if she said it was a terrible day and thousands of families were devastated, i’d have been fine with that. i don’t expect that maniac to admit muslims did it. but saying “some people did something” is very trump-like in terms of how unnecessarily offensive and insulting it is. her only concern about 9/11 in that speech, was that it made life harder for
muslims, not a syllable about 3,000 innocent people burned/crushed to death.
she’s completely deranged.
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Talk about speaking for someone youve got that down with omar looking for a response that had nothing to do with the question... yet you can see some people did that as proof of her hating America
So with your logic george takei when he writes about his feeling and his family's feeling with being in an internment camp.. he 1st should say how horrible pearl harbor was an the hardships for those lives lost as.. the cause of his situation.? Any thing less in un American?
But Trump saying go back to where you came from.. and it means nothing ???? JIM Do you get your info on her from Trump. Look at this gem
TRUMP
“Well, there is a lot of talk about the fact that she was married to her brother. I know nothing about it.”
— in remarks to reporters on Wednesday
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07-19-2019, 06:39 AM
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I am in the camp where I believe you have the right to burn the flag and I have the right to discourage such.
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07-19-2019, 06:43 AM
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I believe burning the American flag is anti-American
I believe that you have the right to burn the flag
I believe that I have the right to say that you are anti-American for burning the flag
I believe that you have the right to criticize me for criticizing you for burning the American flag....
see how that works?
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07-19-2019, 06:54 AM
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I believe burning the American flag is anti-American
I believe that you have the right to burn the flag
I believe that I have the right to say that you are anti-American for burning the flag
I believe that you have the right to criticize me for criticizing you for burning the American flag....
see how that works?
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I agree 100% not to speak for you. But i am going to guess we are not just taking about flag burning ..
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07-19-2019, 07:52 AM
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I agree 100% not to speak for you. But i am going to guess we are not just taking about flag burning ..
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maybe expand...I'm not clear on what you are saying
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07-19-2019, 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
Talk about speaking for someone youve got that down with omar looking for a response that had nothing to do with the question... yet you can see some people did that as proof of her hating America
So with your logic george takei when he writes about his feeling and his family's feeling with being in an internment camp.. he 1st should say how horrible pearl harbor was an the hardships for those lives lost as.. the cause of his situation.? Any thing less in un American?
But Trump saying go back to where you came from.. and it means nothing ???? JIM Do you get your info on her from Trump. Look at this gem
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“Well, there is a lot of talk about the fact that she was married to her brother. I know nothing about it.”
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I'm going to annihilate you here, so get ready, OK?
"Talk about speaking for someone youve got that down with omar looking "
I am not speaking for her. I am responding to an exact quote of what she said. She said 9/11 was "some people did something". And the only victims she showed any concern for in that speech, were fellow Muslims who surely had it rough in the days after 9/11, but not nearly as rough as thousands of American families who had loved ones get burned to death. If you are OK with her description of 09/11, that's your right, but I'm sure most Americans find it deeply offensive, as you certainly would if any Republican said it.
Because that's the rub. You and Pete and Spence can't say anything critical of a democrat. every post you make here can be boiled down to liberal=good, conservative=bad. No exceptions. You are all exactly as thoughtless as Sean Hannity, you're exactly the same. Liberal=good, conservative=bad.
"proof of her hating America"
My proof that she hates America has been laid out already, based on exact statements that she does not deny making. God knows what she says when she knows there are no cameras on her.
"So with your logic george takei when he writes about his feeling and his family's feeling with being in an internment camp.. he 1st should say how horrible pearl harbor was an the hardships for those lives lost "
If we put Muslims in internment camps after 9/11, you would have a brilliant point. But unless I missed it, we didn't, so you have NO POINT. On the eve of 9/11, on that very day, President Bush said that the religion of Islam was not responsible, and that most Muslims were good people. Is that the same as putting them in internment camp?
How did you come up with internment camps anyway? Did someone tell you that we put Muslims in interment camps after 9/11? Or will you fabricate ANYTHING, in order to avoid having to criticize a liberal?
"But Trump saying go back to where you came from.. and it means nothing ???? "
I really think there's something wrong with you. I said many times in these threads, that "go back where you came from" is over the top, offensive, stupid, and divisive. Is that not clear enough for you? Are you still going to claim that I'm a Trump apologist? Or can you be honest for ONCE?
"Do you get your info on her from Trump. "
You tell me which of these things is a made up Republican lie about her, OK?
She says that people who like Israel have questionable loyalty to the US, that theres challenge to that dual loyalty.
She said that Jews do thing for the benjamins, baby.
She said that 9/11 happened because America meddles in the affairs of other countries. There may be some truth to that as they didn't pick us at random, but it's an offensive thing to say out loud.
She says that US Servicemen in Somalis (who were there to help HER HOME COUNTRY for f*uck's sake), killed thousands of civilians.
She supports the notion that the US is operating concentration camps at the border.
She refused to condemn the Antifa domestic terrorist attack on an ICE detention facility.
These are the reasons I despise her. Now you go ahead and tell us, if any of these are fabricated, if I'm just blindly following Trump.
Go ahead, show us all what a moron I am, tell us which of those things I made up.
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07-19-2019, 08:15 AM
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Is there anything to the rumors about her brother? I saw on CNN last night that she filed taxes two years jointly with her current husband, while she was still legally married to her former husband. Is CNN Trump-run TV now?
If she married her brother for an immigration scam, I'd like to know. If she didn't, no one should say she did. Fair enough?
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07-19-2019, 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
Is there anything to the rumors about her brother? I saw on CNN last night that she filed taxes two years jointly with her current husband, while she was still legally married to her former husband. Is CNN Trump-run TV now?
If she married her brother for an immigration scam, I'd like to know. If she didn't, no one should say she did. Fair enough?
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Rumors about her brother? I saw that on CNN and they said those rumors had no basis at all and where an ugly slander. Did you turn the channel bf that part of the story?
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07-19-2019, 09:25 AM
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Rumors about her brother? I saw that on CNN and they said those rumors had no basis at all and where an ugly slander. Did you turn the channel bf that part of the story?
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Spoiler...Paul watches CNN
Shocker...if they said then it certainly must be true.
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PRO CHOICE REPUBLICAN
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07-19-2019, 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
I'm going to annihilate you here, so get ready, OK?
"Talk about speaking for someone youve got that down with omar looking "
I am not speaking for her. I am responding to an exact quote of what she said. She said 9/11 was "some people did something". And the only victims she showed any concern for in that speech, were fellow Muslims who surely had it rough in the days after 9/11, but not nearly as rough as thousands of American families who had loved ones get burned to death. If you are OK with her description of 09/11, that's your right, but I'm sure most Americans find it deeply offensive, as you certainly would if any Republican said it.
Because that's the rub. You and Pete and Spence can't say anything critical of a democrat. every post you make here can be boiled down to liberal=good, conservative=bad. No exceptions. You are all exactly as thoughtless as Sean Hannity, you're exactly the same. Liberal=good, conservative=bad.
"proof of her hating America"
My proof that she hates America has been laid out already, based on exact statements that she does not deny making. God knows what she says when she knows there are no cameras on her.
"So with your logic george takei when he writes about his feeling and his family's feeling with being in an internment camp.. he 1st should say how horrible pearl harbor was an the hardships for those lives lost "
If we put Muslims in internment camps after 9/11, you would have a brilliant point. But unless I missed it, we didn't, so you have NO POINT. On the eve of 9/11, on that very day, President Bush said that the religion of Islam was not responsible, and that most Muslims were good people. Is that the same as putting them in internment camp?
clearly you dont understand my point you expect omar to express some deeper feeling about 9\11 when she was speaking how it impacted her and her community... same with Takei does he need t preface pearl harbor attack in his book to move you to accept his criticism
How did you come up with internment camps anyway? Did someone tell you that we put Muslims in interment camps after 9/11? Or will you fabricate ANYTHING, in order to avoid having to criticize a liberal?
"But Trump saying go back to where you came from.. and it means nothing ???? "
I really think there's something wrong with you. I said many times in these threads, that "go back where you came from" is over the top, offensive, stupid, and divisive. Is that not clear enough for you? Are you still going to claim that I'm a Trump apologist? Or can you be honest for ONCE?
But saying its a racist is to far for you i get it
"Do you get your info on her from Trump. "
You tell me which of these things is a made up Republican lie about her, OK?
She says that people who like Israel have questionable loyalty to the US, that there's challenge to that dual loyalty. ( not a new sentiment)
She said that Jews do thing for the benjamins, baby. ( for buying off congress )
She said that 9/11 happened because America meddles in the affairs of other countries. There may be some truth to that as they didn't pick us at random, but it's an offensive thing to say out loud. (why because there might be some truth in it?)
She says that US Servicemen in Somalis (who were there to help HER HOME COUNTRY for f*uck's sake), killed thousands of civilians. (another true statement same in Iraq Robert Oakley, the ambassador to Somalia under President George Bush, said in a 1998 interview that he believed between 1,500 to 2,000 Somalis were killed and wounded.
not all were combatants
She supports the notion that the US is operating concentration camps at the border. i would say concentration camps is an unacceptable comparison used for shock value or as trump supports would say hyperbole not anti semitic yet fox compares border detention centers for children to “summer camps” clearly the conditions are not acceptable
She refused to condemn the Antifa domestic terrorist attack on an ICE detention facility. another leap Jim she didn't answer a question you mean the 69 year old friends described him as an "anarchist" and "anti-fascist," funny found no connection with him being Antifa
These are the reasons I despise her. Now you go ahead and tell us, if any of these are fabricated, if I'm just blindly following Trump.
Go ahead, show us all what a moron I am, tell us which of those things I made up.
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Jim Basically you made up all of your own interpretations . presenting them as Truth .. Trump does the same thing
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/18/u...act-check.html
I know its the falling NY times but its interesting
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07-19-2019, 09:28 AM
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Spoiler...Paul watches CNN
Shocker...if they said then it certainly must be true.
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Shocker SD has nothing to add. Did your secret "friend" tell you to post that?
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07-19-2019, 09:53 AM
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Rumors about her brother? I saw that on CNN and they said those rumors had no basis at all and where an ugly slander. Did you turn the channel bf that part of the story?
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maybe. they didn’t say anything about her brother. they said she filed taxes under status married filing jointly, and that they name she filed with us her current husband, but that at the time she filed as his wife, she was legally married to her former husband. had nothing to do with her brother.
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07-19-2019, 09:56 AM
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Rumors about her brother? I saw that on CNN and they said those rumors had no basis at all and where an ugly slander. Did you turn the channel bf that part of the story?
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Paul forget about rumors regarding her brother. are you ok with the things she has said
about jews, about 9/11, about american soldiers, about border patrol running concentration camps? is she all that much better than Trump in terms of how divisive and offensive she is?
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07-19-2019, 10:07 AM
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maybe. they didn’t say anything about her brother. they said she filed taxes under status married filing jointly, and that they name she filed with us her current husband, but that at the time she filed as his wife, she was legally married to her former husband. had nothing to do with her brother.
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But you brought up those ugly, scummy lies and now your saying that CNN didn't say anything about her brother after you implied they did? Why would you mention her brother and then talk about CNN? Which is it - they did or they didn't?
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07-19-2019, 10:19 AM
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But you brought up those ugly, scummy lies and now your saying that CNN didn't say anything about her brother after you implied they did? Why would you mention her brother and then talk about CNN? Which is it - they did or they didn't?
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Read my post. What I said I saw on CNN, was a report that indicates that according to taxes, she was married to one man while still legally married to another. I heard nothing on CNN about her brother, that's a rumor I'm hearing elsewhere. OK? I heard about her brother elsewhere, what I heard on CNN was a suggestion that she was married to two people at the same time.
"But you brought up those ugly, scummy lies"
Yawn. What ugly scummy lies did I bring up, exactly? I never said the rumors about her brother were anything but rumors. Everything else I attributed to her, are things that she said and did. If any are fabricated, please let me know which. If you can't disprove them, can you tell me if you're OK with a sitting congresswoman saying and doing those things?
Seems like you're avoiding answering my question, you're responding like others do, not like you do. In any event, please specify which ugly scummy lies I am starting or perpetrating?
Regarding her brother, WDMSO was the one who brought it up, NOT me. I asked if there was anything to it, and I said if it's not true, no one should be saying it is true. You have an issue with that?
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07-19-2019, 10:21 AM
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You asked about her brother - bc you know there were scummy right wing lies about her being married to her.
Scummy
You did it now live with it.
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07-19-2019, 10:21 AM
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The ONLY evidence you have that his comment was racist, is that the people he was criticizing, are not white. A white man saying offensive to a black person, doesn't tell me that there's necessarily racism, especially if that white man has a well documented history of being equally offensive to white people who criticize him. if he's a jerk to everybody, then their skin color played no role, necessarily meaning it's not racism.
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07-19-2019, 10:23 AM
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You asked about her brother - bc you know there were scummy right wing lies about her being married to her.
Scummy
You did it now live with it.
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Here's what I said...see my post...
"Is there anything to the rumors about her brother? I saw on CNN last night that she filed taxes two years jointly with her current husband, while she was still legally married to her former husband. Is CNN Trump-run TV now?
If she married her brother for an immigration scam, I'd like to know. If she didn't, no one should say she did."
What in there, exactly, is scummy? I thought you were the one liberal here better than that...
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07-19-2019, 10:36 AM
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JIM is correct I posted that Trump brought up the brother rumor.. to expose Trumps willingness to repeat false information.. that many of his supporters not to include jim who repeat is as facts
Regarding her brother, WDMSO was the one who brought it up, NOT me. I asked if there was anything to it, and I said if it's not true, no one should be saying it is true. You have an issue with that?
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07-19-2019, 10:38 AM
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A white man saying offensive to a black person, doesn't tell me that there's necessarily racism, especially if that white man has a well documented history of being equally offensive to white people who criticize him. if he's a jerk to everybody, then their skin color played no role, necessarily meaning it's not racism.
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