What’s Putin’s Puppet hiding?

[scottw]

he's replying to his own posts now soooooo......that's like talking to yourself...right?

[Pete F.]

Deep thoughts by scottw

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he likes to remind us that he's not very bright...

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I laugh too much for an angry person...why do you constantly tell everyone that they are angry? I think you are projecting

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that's insightful

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Not insults. “Love taps”. Some people are just wound WAY too tight
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pretty sure nobody does

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oh stop...you know I love you

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it's tough reading....

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that would be awesome

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they are going to lock you up Peto

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geeze...I wonder why the dummycraps aren't calling for an investigation of this?

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he's replying to his own posts now soooooo......that's like talking to yourself...right?

[Pete F.]

And then we have clever thoughts from the leader of the Trump Defense Society

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If you had written we are then you wouldn’t be in this mess. But thanks for giving the three stooges a hat trick.
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Stay tuned as PaulS is about to say something clever.
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Did he intend to say we will?
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Great to see Trump’s approval ratings surpassed Obama.
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I guess this is clever,using the PeteF. grading curve.
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I believe you have an acute case of TDS.
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I simply support our leader.
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I know you get confused easily PeteF.
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Hey Stupe,Simply.
Not simple.
Even pAul is laughing at you. In his “I will blow you” emoticon.
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Story or fable?
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Smarten up
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Good job
Another gotcha!
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He just has TDS.
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Thank you for conceding it is a meaningless investigation. At least you validate it as two wrongs trying to make a right.
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Funny that the person who needed a safe space immediately following the election would dare ask this question. I hope that clarified your misunderstanding.
Oh,and PeteF is the one who referred to the investigation as meaningless.
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Thank you for exposing that information Pete. You are truly one of God’s soldiers.
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[scottw]

Peto...you should try to appreciate....that wile you consume thousands of words to say absolutely nothing...others can efficiently and concisely use only a few words to convey succinct messages....

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

We're maybe hours from learning the promise Trump made and to which leader, less than 24 from him calling it fake news, two days away from Republicans being "troubled," three away from the WH admitting the story is true but Trump was "joking," four from the GOP falling into line.

Mitt Romney, a little late.
If the President asked or pressured Ukraine’s president to investigate his political rival, either directly or through his personal attorney, it would be troubling in the extreme. Critical for the facts to come out.
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[Sea Dangles]

I am so grateful to have a leader putting America first. It’s super to see somebody making the USA great again.
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

I am so grateful to have a leader putting America first. It’s super to see somebody making the USA great again.
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Proof there are "Republican" Comedians

[wdmso]

Mr Biden was not the only public official - in the US, among EU countries and in Ukraine - calling for Mr Shokin's removal.Mr Shokin's replacement, Yuriy Lutsenko, continued to investigate Burisima for 10 months before ending all legal proceedings.. again facts and truth can not sway the rights love for conspiracy theories .. this is why they their not intrested when Trump does what he does its true. The only conspiracy they see is everyones out to get Trump
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Mr Biden was not the only public official - in the US, among EU countries and in Ukraine - calling for Mr Shokin's removal.Mr Shokin's replacement, Yuriy Lutsenko, continued to investigate Burisima for 10 months before ending all legal proceedings.. again facts and truth can not sway the rights love for conspiracy theories .. this is why they their not intrested when Trump does what he does its true. The only conspiracy they see is everyones out to get Trump
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Calling for his removal is one thing. Threatening to withdraw promised money if it was not done is another.

BTW, Mr. Shokin has been interviewed about the matter, and he said that he was investigating Biden's son's actual qualifications and reasons for being hired by Burisma.

[Pete F.]

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Calling for his removal is one thing. Threatening to withdraw promised money if it was not done is another.

BTW, Mr. Shokin has been interviewed about the matter, and he said that he was investigating Biden's son's actual qualifications and reasons for being hired by Burisma.

“Shokin has not brought any cases of corruption to court involving [ousted] Yanukovich [Paul Manafort’s client & Putin’s man in Ukraine] or his partners. Nor has he prosecuted the hundreds of high-level corruption cases ...brought to his office....”
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[Got Stripers]

Trump being Trump, many keep forgetting why he ran in the first place and that his abuse of rules, regulations and the law is his MO throughout his life. He ran for fame and family fortune, if you think it was to make America great again, your either blind, deaf, dumb or a just a plain fool.
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[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

Trump being Trump, many keep forgetting why he ran in the first place and that his abuse of rules, regulations and the law is his MO throughout his life. He ran for fame and family fortune, if you think it was to make America great again, your either blind, deaf, dumb or a just a plain fool.
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This is fair because it is just an opinion from a liberal fool. Trump keeps fighting for your rights,so enjoy them.
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[Got Stripers]

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This is fair because it is just an opinion from a liberal fool. Trump keeps fighting for your rights,so enjoy them.
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I already pegged you, read my last sentence.
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[Pete F.]

Trumplicans BEFORE 10 DAYS AGO: Trump has never colluded with any foreign power and there has to be something seriously wrong with you to think otherwise

Trumplicans AFTER 10 DAYS AGO: Uh it's like the president's *job* to collude with foreign powers and if you didn't hate America you'd know it
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Trumplicans BEFORE 10 DAYS AGO: Trump has never colluded with any foreign power and there has to be something seriously wrong with you to think otherwise

Trumplicans AFTER 10 DAYS AGO: Uh it's like the president's *job* to collude with foreign powers and if you didn't hate America you'd know it
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Has Trump and some foreign power cooperated in some illegal action?

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Has Trump and some foreign power cooperated in some illegal action?

Keep believing

Three anonymous officials say Trump ordered a hold on a $400 million aid payment to Ukraine days before the Biden call.

Trump told his acting chief of staff, Mick Mulvaney, to hold back almost $400 million in military aid for Ukraine at least a week before a phone call in which Trump is said to have pressured the Ukrainian president to investigate Biden’s son

Giuliani to Hannity: 'I wasn't acting on my own, I was following instructions of the state Department.'

Bolton argued to meet with Ukraine’s president and restore funding as a way to curb Russian aggression. Trump for some time was unmoved. He urged Biden probe. Giuliani urged probe. His aides began to worry move was illegal & GOP senators challenged.

Stunning. Now you can see people are ratting out Trump, leaking and moving the story forward. You’ll see how fast a weak bully goes down.

And just wait till the Russian twist shows up.

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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Keep believing

You said "Trumplicans AFTER 10 DAYS AGO: Uh it's like the president's *job* to collude with foreign powers"

You specifically said "collude." For there to be collusion with a foreign power, the foreign power must reciprocate.

I'll ask again, has Trump and some foreign power cooperated, colluded, in some illegal action?

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by detbuch

You said "Trumplicans AFTER 10 DAYS AGO: Uh it's like the president's *job* to collude with foreign powers"

You specifically said "collude." For there to be collusion with a foreign power, the foreign power must reciprocate.

I'll ask again, has Trump and some foreign power cooperated, colluded, in some illegal action?

Spin spin spin


Fox News host Shep Smith on Monday dispelled the deflection President Donald Trump uses whenever he gets confronted about his controversial call with the Ukrainian president, during which Trump reportedly pressured the president to investigate 2020 rival Joe Biden.

“There is no known evidence that Biden did anything wrong,” Smith said following a clip of Trump parroting his baseless claim that Biden had engaged in corrupt behavior in Ukraine.

The Fox host pointed out that the Ukrainian prosecutor at the heart of Trump’s conspiracy theory–that Biden had pushed for the prosecutor’s ouster for investigating a company with ties to Biden’s son–was widely considered corrupt, which led to his ouster.

“The real issue here is the phone call,” Smith said. “The claim that the President pressured a foreign leader to investigate a political rival and the failure to pass the whistleblower complaint to Congress.”
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by detbuch

You said "Trumplicans AFTER 10 DAYS AGO: Uh it's like the president's *job* to collude with foreign powers"

You specifically said "collude." For there to be collusion with a foreign power, the foreign power must reciprocate.

I'll ask again, has Trump and some foreign power cooperated, colluded, in some illegal action?

Trump’s treasonous phone call with Zelenskyy goes to the heart of why Putin made him POTUS in the first place: to remove U.S. support for Ukraine and to allow the Russian invasion army to occupy Ukrainian territory beyond Crimea and Donbas.
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[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Trumplicans BEFORE 10 DAYS AGO: Trump has never colluded with any foreign power and there has to be something seriously wrong with you to think otherwise

Trumplicans AFTER 10 DAYS AGO: Uh it's like the president's *job* to collude with foreign powers and if you didn't hate America you'd know it
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It is because he likes the Patriots.
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[Pete F.]

It wasn’t clear why Rudy Giuliani took a day in November 2017 to travel to the Ukrainian city of Kharkiv.


Now, more light has been shed on Giuliani and his oddball Ukrainian associates – according to a new profile of Russian-Ukrainian oligarch Pavel Fuchs, Giuliani is working to “create a U.S. office for supporting investment in the city.” The profile was published Nov. 12 in the Ukrainian magazine Novoye Vremya.

Fuchs – known mainly for negotiating with the Trump Organization for a Trump Moscow project – has arguably been one of Giuliani’s murkiest connections in his global consulting business.

For more than a decade, the former New York City mayor has consulted for unsavory clients around the world, from a recent sojourn to Armenia to a 2004 journey to meet a Russian billionaire in the steel town of Magnitogorsk.

But Fuchs – photographed above in New York with Giuliani in July 2017 – could mark a new low in Giuliani’s foreign consulting career.

Fuchs, a Kharkiv native, has reportedly been under investigation in Ukraine for alleged corruption surrounding a deal to buy $160 million in frozen assets of the country’s former President Viktor Yanukovych, who was deposed in February 2014. Yanukovych was the former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort’s prime Ukraine client for more than a decade. Manafort pleaded guilty to federal criminal charges arising from his Ukraine work and is now cooperating with special counsel Robert Mueller’s Russia probe.
Fuchs built his wealth in Moscow throughout the 1990s and 2000s, amassing investments in energy, banking, and real estate.

In an Al Jazeera profile, Fuchs was quoted as telling a Russian TV host, “when I was young, I beat people up.”

“I don’t like it when someone lies to me,” he added.

Most notably, Fuchs was contracted to build Moscow-City, a complex of skyscrapers in the Russian capital along the Moscow river.

Fuchs’s position as a major real estate developer in Russia brought him into contact with the Trump Organization in June 2008, when the group was in negotiations to franchise its name to one of the towers in Fuchs’s Moscow-City complex.
“We were going to name one of the Moscow-City towers ‘Trump Tower’,” Fuchs recalled in a November 2017 interview. “Donald Trump’s son also wanted to enter the Russian luxury real estate market, he flew to us for negotiations many times.”

By 2017 – the year of Fuchs’s first documented meeting with Giuliani – he had relocated to Ukraine.

Fuchs pops up in photographs with Kharkiv’s mayor, Gennady Kernes, and was named an “honorary citizen” by him in 2014.

Kernes, who flaunts his love of New York City-related apparel on his Instagram account, initially sided with the outgoing Ukraine regime during the 2014 protests. After the revolution, he switched allegiances, but was accused and investigated over allegedly organizing the kidnapping and torture of protestors in his city. That case went nowhere, but accusations of reprisals and grand corruption have continued to dog the mayor.

Kernes’s city hired U.S. lobbyist Shai Franklin in 2016 to represent the city’s economic interests in Washington, though that relationship doesn’t appear from FARA filings to have continued.

By May 2017, Giuliani’s company Giuliani Security had inked an agreement with Kharkiv city government to review the city’s security services. A New York firm called Triglobal Strategic Ventures, a company the New York Times reported as “provid[ing] image consulting to Russian oligarchs and clients with deep Kremlin ties,” too credit in a press release for introducing the Ukraine city and Giuliani’s firm.

The New York City meeting with Fuchs occurred in July 2017, and Giuliani visited Kharkiv in November 2017. Giuliani hosted a delegation from Kharkiv in New York City in March.

It’s not clear whether Giuliani has undertaken any activities to promote Kharkiv – or Fuchs – in the U.S. A review of FARA found no record of Giuliani ever registering as a foreign lobbyist.
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[Pete F.]

Last year, Ukrainian lawmakers admitted that Poroshenko's government halted cooperation with Mueller regarding Manafort/corruption because they didn't want to upset Trump while they were buying US anti-tank missiles. This seems strangely forgotten.
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[Pete F.]

“Clearly,” said the senior adviser to the Ukraine's interior minister, “Trump is now looking for kompromat to discredit his opponent Biden, to take revenge for his friend Paul Manafort, who is serving seven years in prison.”
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[Sea Dangles]

Wow,Pete might be hospitalized with an acute case of TDS. DIZZINESS and INSOMNIA to follow. Get well soon as God needs your help fighting these allegations of wrongdoing.
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

Wow,Pete might be hospitalized with an acute case of TDS. DIZZINESS and INSOMNIA to follow. Get well soon as God needs your help fighting these allegations of wrongdoing.
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“When I took over the United States.” — Donald J. Trump, Dictator-wannabe, September 23, 2019 (referring at the UN to the start of his presidency).

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[Sea Dangles]

Thank goodness we have a steward that puts America First.
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[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

Thank goodness we have a steward that puts America First.
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You are so full of sh*t, Trump is out for Trump and family first. Please explain how extorting a foreign government in order to help his efforts in the 2020 election is good for America. I think you need to loosen the MAGA hit band, clearly it’s lessoning blood flow to brain cells you can ill afford to loss at this point.
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[scottw]

yes...please explain


President Obama defers his authority and says, ‘I'm making Joe Biden my point man in Ukraine. He's going to take care of this crisis. He's going to build out the government, we're going to get this situation dealt with.’ And so Biden starts jumping across the pond and visiting Ukraine on a regular basis, meeting with the president.

“Well, a funny thing happened. Not just a few weeks after Biden takes over the portfolium, a natural gas company called Burisma Holdings in Ukraine, hires Joe Biden's son, Hunter Biden to join its board. And that in and of itself is a little suspicious, right? There's no evidence that Hunter Biden had any experience in Ukraine law or Ukraine natural gas, but he's suddenly added to the board. So his son cashes in and gets a great job in Ukraine and it goes on for a couple of years.”

Solomon explained that later Ukrainian authorities began investigating transfers being made to Hunter Biden:

“They have a wide ranging and criminal investigation and they determined in late fall 2015 according to the very records I've seen in Ukrainian court, that they want to interview Hunter Biden. "Why are you taking this money as a board member? What is it for and is there any chance the money is really to influence your father who is a vice president in charge of Ukraine policy?"

“It is at that moment that Joe Biden steps into the picture in a different role. He has a conversation with president Poroshenko, now the Western friendly president, and tells him, ‘I want you to fire the general prosecutor in your country. I want him gone.’

Poroshenko questions, ‘Why? What has he done wrong?’

Biden tells him, ‘Don't worry, he's done something wrong. Just get rid of them.’

Well, the president doesn't oblige and continues to leave that prosecutor general, named Viktor Shokin, in charge for several months. Multiple requests come in from both the vice president and the US embassy demanding that they fire this prosecutor. President Poroshenko doesn't have a reason to fire him.”

Here is where the true scandal is revealed, Solomon explained that Biden continued to pressure the Ukrainian leader. In March of 2016, four months after Joe Biden made the first request for the prosecutor to be fired, Vice President Joe Biden makes a call and says, "If you do not fire that prosecutor, I am going to withhold the next $1 billion in US loan guarantees to the Ukraine."

This is a devastating threat because Ukraine is so cash short. At that point, President Poroshenko finally obliges and fires the prosecutor.

Of course, this has largely gone unreported by the media.


seems like Trump is seeking justice and Biden was trying to prevent justice...family first and all

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by scottw

yes...please explain


President Obama defers his authority and says, ‘I'm making Joe Biden my point man in Ukraine. He's going to take care of this crisis. He's going to build out the government, we're going to get this situation dealt with.’ And so Biden starts jumping across the pond and visiting Ukraine on a regular basis, meeting with the president.

“Well, a funny thing happened. Not just a few weeks after Biden takes over the portfolium, a natural gas company called Burisma Holdings in Ukraine, hires Joe Biden's son, Hunter Biden to join its board. And that in and of itself is a little suspicious, right? There's no evidence that Hunter Biden had any experience in Ukraine law or Ukraine natural gas, but he's suddenly added to the board. So his son cashes in and gets a great job in Ukraine and it goes on for a couple of years.”

Solomon explained that later Ukrainian authorities began investigating transfers being made to Hunter Biden:

“They have a wide ranging and criminal investigation and they determined in late fall 2015 according to the very records I've seen in Ukrainian court, that they want to interview Hunter Biden. "Why are you taking this money as a board member? What is it for and is there any chance the money is really to influence your father who is a vice president in charge of Ukraine policy?"

“It is at that moment that Joe Biden steps into the picture in a different role. He has a conversation with president Poroshenko, now the Western friendly president, and tells him, ‘I want you to fire the general prosecutor in your country. I want him gone.’

Poroshenko questions, ‘Why? What has he done wrong?’

Biden tells him, ‘Don't worry, he's done something wrong. Just get rid of them.’

Well, the president doesn't oblige and continues to leave that prosecutor general, named Viktor Shokin, in charge for several months. Multiple requests come in from both the vice president and the US embassy demanding that they fire this prosecutor. President Poroshenko doesn't have a reason to fire him.”

Here is where the true scandal is revealed, Solomon explained that Biden continued to pressure the Ukrainian leader. In March of 2016, four months after Joe Biden made the first request for the prosecutor to be fired, Vice President Joe Biden makes a call and says, "If you do not fire that prosecutor, I am going to withhold the next $1 billion in US loan guarantees to the Ukraine."

This is a devastating threat because Ukraine is so cash short. At that point, President Poroshenko finally obliges and fires the prosecutor.

Of course, this has largely gone unreported by the media.


seems like Trump is seeking justice and Biden was trying to prevent justice...family first and all

Channeling Michael Weiner aka Savage?

Removing Shokin was hardly Biden's unique idea. “Everyone in the Western community wanted Shokin sacked,” Anders Aslund, a senior fellow at the Atlantic Council, told the Wall Street Journal. “The whole G-7, the IMF, the EBRD, everybody was united that Shokin must go, and the spokesman for this was Joe Biden.”

The people of Ukraine wanted Shokin gone as well, and demonstrated for his removal around the time of Biden’s threat. Shortly after that demonstration, Shokin was dismissed.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Channeling Michael Weiner aka Savage?

Removing Shokin was hardly Biden's unique idea. “Everyone in the Western community wanted Shokin sacked,” Anders Aslund, a senior fellow at the Atlantic Council, told the Wall Street Journal. “The whole G-7, the IMF, the EBRD, everybody was united that Shokin must go, and the spokesman for this was Joe Biden.”

The people of Ukraine wanted Shokin gone as well, and demonstrated for his removal around the time of Biden’s threat. Shortly after that demonstration, Shokin was dismissed.

pete, come on. there is video of biden saying he threatened to withhold aid unless they fired the prosecutor. it’s on video. biden was laughing and bragging, and he’s done. he was then only one with a great chance to beat trump, and he’s done.

this whole thing doesn’t seem suspicious to you?
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