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12-09-2019, 03:51 PM
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#31
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Originally Posted by PaulS
He won't respond bc he doesn't know what to say.
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You are not playing dumb.
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12-09-2019, 03:53 PM
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#32
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
i don’t see responding, and having the ability to move on, as being mutually exclusive. Your frustration is showing. Remember to save yourself some room for foaming at the mouth, for when we get closer to the election.
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What would lead you to believe I was frustrated? As I said, I don't feel the need to constantly post - pretty much every day of the year, multiple times a day like you do.
I'm not foaming at the mouth. If you want to see a real angry guy, look at the loser who made this post:
vague insults from a little
twerp who can never criticize his own side or compliment the other side. bleating of the sheep XXXX, that’s 90% of what you do. what did i stay exactly, that was wrong?
from a guy who literally couldn’t bring himself
to showup here for weeks after the election.
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12-09-2019, 03:54 PM
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#33
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Canceled
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: vt
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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles
We are lucky to have heroes that died so we can press 1 for English.
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Now I understand the problem, it's the brown people.
You've been victimized and need to take back what you see as “your” country from the recently arrived interlopers.
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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles
What does my statement have to do with skin color?
Oh...and No, I am not a victim but you sure are creative.👍🏿
This is OUR country. All citizens that is.
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Then what does this statement mean, are you just celebrating diversity?
"We are lucky to have heroes that died so we can press 1 for English."
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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles
Try some critical thinking for a change.
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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles
You know exactly what I mean so stop playing dumb.
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You must just be too obtuse or deep for me to understand.
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12-09-2019, 03:55 PM
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#34
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Originally Posted by PaulS
I'm not foaming at the mouth.
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ummmm...you want to dig up dead people....sooooo
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12-09-2019, 03:57 PM
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#35
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Originally Posted by scottw
ummmm...you want to dig up dead people....sooooo
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scummy traitors. They were dug up 1x before.
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12-09-2019, 04:14 PM
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#36
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Originally Posted by PaulS
scummy traitors. They were dug up 1x before.
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Maybe you could deface a statue or headstones or something to help with that anger. Be sure to headbutt them a few times for good measure
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12-09-2019, 05:15 PM
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#37
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Originally Posted by PaulS
scummy traitors. They were dug up 1x before.
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They were not traitors. Perhaps you couldn't answer if states are necessary because you don't understand why they were not traitors.
At the time, states had a lot more of their sovereignty intact than they do now. Their states had seceded from the union. They were patriots of the states they fought for, not traitors.
I understand Lincoln's argument that states could not secede without approval of the other states with whom they had a legal compact. But it wasn't clear then, nor totally so now, that the southern states did not have the right to secede. It certainly would be unfair to ask the average southerner what the complicated legal arguments were.
They fought with the same fidelity for their country as did the Union soldiers. Their sovereign states were their primary country, and the Confederacy was the new union to which their states belonged.
Lincoln understood that and saw no need to compound unnecessary animosities and to recognize the tragedy of brothers, literal or national, who were called to so brutally slaughter each other. Lincoln was not at all happy about having to kill so much of the flowering manhood of the South. He would have been repulsed by your point of view.
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12-09-2019, 05:30 PM
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#38
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Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Georgetown MA
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Originally Posted by PaulS
scummy traitors. They were dug up 1x before.
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"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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12-09-2019, 06:46 PM
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#39
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Somewhere between OOB & west of Watch Hill
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Originally Posted by PaulS
I don't understand how anybody can support those POS still being in the same spots w/our heroes. Too bad you don't understand.
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350 thousand Union soldier casualties and thousands of others to keep this country together and yet we are re-litigating everything today all over again.
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
They were pardoned Paul, every single one of them. In order to heal the country and move forward. I know that’s a foreign concept to those still pissing and moaning about Columbus Day, but I’ve moved on from it.
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^^^ This.
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Originally Posted by detbuch
They were not traitors. Perhaps you couldn't answer if states are necessary because you don't understand why they were not traitors.
At the time, states had a lot more of their sovereignty intact than they do now. Their states had seceded from the union. They were patriots of the states they fought for, not traitors.
I understand Lincoln's argument that states could not secede without approval of the other states with whom they had a legal compact. But it wasn't clear then, nor totally so now, that the southern states did not have the right to secede. It certainly would be unfair to ask the average southerner what the complicated legal arguments were.
They fought with the same fidelity for their country as did the Union soldiers. Their sovereign states were their primary country, and the Confederacy was the new union to which their states belonged.
Lincoln understood that and saw no need to compound unnecessary animosities and to recognize the tragedy of brothers, literal or national, who were called to so brutally slaughter each other. Lincoln was not at all happy about having to kill so much of the flowering manhood of the South. He would have been repulsed by your point of view.
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Col Robert E Lee resigned his commission from the US Army when he was asked by General Winfield Scott to take the reigns of the US Army. But to take command of the US Army would required Lee to invade his home state of Virginia. Would you attack CT if directed so from New York regardless of the reason? I do not condone his fighting for the CSA but I can understand when he said he had no desire to draw a sword except in the defense of his home state, which was Virginia, and his home, which is now (appropriately IMO) Arlington National Cemetery.
A terrible war, mismanaged by both sides, as a result of bad politicians and politics on both sides, and a horrible reconstruction afterward.
Many of the points being re-litigated today were resolved then and the ones that were not (subjugating black people for example) we need to a better job on fixing and making fair today. Revisionist history and re-contesting of 150 years ago under today's standards is entirely unfair, unjust, and impossible without serious consequences.
The debt to keep this country together was paid for in blood, 150 years ago.
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12-09-2019, 07:37 PM
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#40
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I am sure Paul would have run away from the problem like a good liberal.
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12-09-2019, 07:59 PM
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#41
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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles
I am sure Paul would have run away from the problem like a good liberal.
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I know I wouldn't have claimed I have bunions.
And I know i would never run away from you.
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12-09-2019, 08:03 PM
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#42
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Quote:
Originally Posted by detbuch
They were not traitors. Perhaps you couldn't answer if states are necessary because you don't understand why they were not traitors.
At the time, states had a lot more of their sovereignty intact than they do now. Their states had seceded from the union. They were patriots of the states they fought for, not traitors.
I understand Lincoln's argument that states could not secede without approval of the other states with whom they had a legal compact. But it wasn't clear then, nor totally so now, that the southern states did not have the right to secede. It certainly would be unfair to ask the average southerner what the complicated legal arguments were.
They fought with the same fidelity for their country as did the Union soldiers. Their sovereign states were their primary country, and the Confederacy was the new union to which their states belonged.
Lincoln understood that and saw no need to compound unnecessary animosities and to recognize the tragedy of brothers, literal or national, who were called to so brutally slaughter each other. Lincoln was not at all happy about having to kill so much of the flowering manhood of the South. He would have been repulsed by your point of view.
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Lighten up.
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12-09-2019, 08:50 PM
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#43
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Originally Posted by PaulS
I know I wouldn't have claimed I have bunions.
And I know i would never run away from you.
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I don’t plan on chasing you so don’t you fret, tough guy.
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