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[Got Stripers]

All religions su*ck, the head count over religion is millions and I find the catholic faith especially hypocritical. How many lives have been ruined by catholic priests, faithfully practicing what?

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

All religions su*ck,

not all..this is foolish

[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by scottw

not all..this is foolish

Pick a century, pick a religion, pick a “god”, they have all murdered millions in the name of their “faith” or their “god” being the one and only, they all su*ck, just to varying degrees of death in the name of.
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[Got Stripers]

How many deaths have been caused by religion? Here's a list of religiously motivated wars and genocides and their death tolls. Let me know if I missed any!
The Crusades: 6,000,000
Thirty Years War: 11,500,000
French Wars of Religion: 4,000,000
Second Sudanese Civil War: 2,000,000
Lebanese Civil War: 250,000
Muslim Conquests of India: 80,000,000
Congolese Genocide (King Leopold II): 13,000,000
Armenian Genocide: 1,500,000
Rwandan Genocide: 800,000
Eighty Years' War: 1,000,000
Nigerian Civil War: 1,000,000
Great Peasants' Revolt: 250,000
First Sudanese Civil War: 1,000,000
Jewish Diaspora (Not Including the Holocaust): 1,000,000
The Holocaust (Jewish and Homosexual Deaths): 6,500,000
Islamic Terrorism Since 2000: 150,000
Iraq War: 500,000
US Western Expansion (Justified by "Manifest Destiny"):20,000,000
Atlantic Slave Trade (Justified by Christianity): 14,000,000
Aztec Human Sacrifice: 80,000
AIDS deaths in Africa largely due to opposition to condoms: 30,000,000
Spanish Inquisition: 5,000
TOTAL: 195,035,000 deaths in the name of religion.

Rest my case, although that doesn’t even include the terrorists, who have added to it in the name of, again they all su*ck!

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

Pick a century, pick a religion, pick a “god”, they have all murdered millions in the name of their “faith” or their “god” being the one and only, they all su*ck, just to varying degrees of death in the name of.
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you just need something to bitch about...

[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by scottw

you just need something to bitch about...

🧀
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

Pick a century, pick a religion, pick a “god”, they have all murdered millions in the name of their “faith” or their “god” being the one and only, they all su*ck, just to varying degrees of death in the name of.
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show me millions murdered by jews or christians in this last couple of centuries please?

it’s something, to tell people
that the thing they might hold
more dear to them than anything, su*ks. Very ignorant. Stop by a catholic hospital sometime, or a catholic food bank, or a catholic school where the staff work for peanuts, and tell the heroic volunteers that it all su*cks.


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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

show me millions murdered by jews or christians in this last couple of centuries please?




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If I said show me were Biden sexually assaulted some one since the 90s

Would that eliminate his guilt or excuse his behavior ,,,,

You evangelist just steal money pay no taxes they just evolved


And try not taking all religion sucks to all who are religious suck.

But that's hard for you seeing you think religion is under attack..

[Got Stripers]

The irreverent core are now the thread police, I think you both need to hold hands and attend services together this weekend, what’s the problem; special warm thoughts from your alter boy youth?

[Sea Dangles]

You complain a lot
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[Got Stripers]

I get it, my bringing up catholic priests made your butt checks tighten out of shear panic from your youth, I understand you can’t debate the value of religion in general. Go find a soft seat and take some deep breaths.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

I get it, my bringing up catholic priests made your butt checks tighten out of shear panic from your youth, I understand you can’t debate the value of religion in general. Go find a soft seat and take some deep breaths.

you’re the one who can no longer debate anything. TDS has you. Read your posts man, how much respect do you show for those who disagree with you. your tone went off the deep end in the last week, you’re regurgitating nonsensical MSNBC talking points.
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[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

you’re the one who can no longer debate anything. TDS has you. Read your posts man, how much respect do you show for those who disagree with you. your tone went off the deep end in the last week, you’re regurgitating nonsensical MSNBC talking points.
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What does my comment have to do with Trump and it’s about time religions start making up for all the lives taken throughout the centuries and as you know the Catholic Church’s dark past isn’t all the far in the past. I didn’t say anyones faith su*cks, the point was all religions su*ck for all the lives taken in the name of this god or that god, or the correct god. My older sister is an episcopal minister, so I get that faith is important to some, that wasn’t my point.

Touchy subject, you guys love to debate religion as it applies to this administration and bitch we do not but complain about Trump, I was stepping outside the Trump box to make a general statement. While efforts today are worthy, why do the need to be made in the name of any religion, how about people that can step forward, like so many admirable sports figures or public and private sector CEO’s with great charities.

[scottw]

^^^^this is juvenile

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

What does my comment have to do with Trump and it’s about time religions start making up for all the lives taken throughout the centuries and as you know the Catholic Church’s dark past isn’t all the far in the past. I didn’t say anyones faith su*cks, the point was all religions su*ck for all the lives taken in the name of this god or that god, or the correct god. My older sister is an episcopal minister, so I get that faith is important to some, that wasn’t my point.

Touchy subject, you guys love to debate religion as it applies to this administration and bitch we do not but complain about Trump, I was stepping outside the Trump box to make a general statement. While efforts today are worthy, why do the need to be made in the name of any religion, how about people that can step forward, like so many admirable sports figures or public and private sector CEO’s with great charities.

"it’s about time religions start making up for all the lives taken throughout the centuries "

Using that logic, you are personally responsible for what your ancestors did 4,5 generations ago? Must be nice to be the only person on the planet to come from lineage that's as innocent as a newborn kitten.

Catholics are a huge group of people, and like any large group, there are some really bad apples. You are enthusiastically pointing that out. But there are millions of Catholics who are inspired by their faith, to spend every waking moment helping others, while you and I are free to indulge ourselves with things like golf and fishing and complaining on the internet. As I said, you come across as fairly ignorant and incorrect on the subject, so why not spend a day at a Catholic charity to see firsthand the people you are bashing, see if you feel the same way afterwards.

"the Catholic Church’s dark past isn’t all the far in the past"

If you are talking about the homosexual predation, obviously you're correct. What fascinates me, is that we see the same predation elsewhere - in other religions, public schools, and for sure in the healthcare field, yet 90% of the media coverage focuses on the abuse in Catholicism. It's almost as if there's some kind of agenda, not sure whey else everyone else gets a pass. But I'm not denying that a small number of people in the Catholic church absolutely blew this problem.


"I didn’t say anyones faith su*cks, the point was all religions su*ck'

Not seeing the difference. And again, I don't see any large-scale mass murder committed by Jews of Christians in the last few centuries. What I see, is that Christianity was irrefutably the driving force to end slavery, and it was absolutely the driving force to end segregation. Is it too much to ask that if you highlight the flaws, maybe you could dedicate a syllable or two to the good done? And the benefits provided?

"I was stepping outside the Trump box to make a general statement'

And in my opinion, it was a bigoted, thoughtless statement.

Your tone has changed. It started a week ago with a f-bomb laced tirade aimed at me. You sound warped and frustrated.

"While efforts today are worthy"

I agree...

"why do they need to be made in the name of any religion"

That question is too big for me. Obviously they don't need to be rooted in religion, there are plenty of agnostics who are wonderful people. But the fact is, faith inspires many people to do great things.

Look at it this way...if person A really believes that there is no God, no afterlife...and person B believes that there is a God and a Heaven and that life is essentially an audition to get into heaven...is it surprising that this faith would motivate people to do more good, than they might otherwise do?

The fight to end slavery and segregation didn't necessarily have to originate with Judeo-Christian principles. But nevertheless, that's where it originated.

It's not touchy to me, faith isn't for everyone and I don't pretend that what works for me is what's best for anyone else. But it's a good idea to get the truth out there, not just one-sided bashing.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

You complain a lot
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you guys did it. you broke his brain.
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[Sea Dangles]

I am not religious at all. Although the dopey GS has no problem appointing me as such. I am not against any of them and believe they all have an equal place on the globe. I have gone out of my way to criticize Catholics in the past as they provide plenty of fodder. Since my son started attending BC High we started to support a scholarship fund for inner city children who,otherwise would not get an opportunity at private education. The Catholic Church has moved this forward through the years and the stories told by the students about the difference this made in their lives makes me ashamed that I had previously bashed them. It still won’t get me to church though.
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[Pete F.]

No one can serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and money.

For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. So it is no surprise if his servants, also, disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their deeds.

[Got Stripers]

Right back at you, I smile every time you put yet another irrelevant post up, keep up the good work, I need the diversion.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

Right back at you, I smile every time you put yet another irrelevant post up, keep up the good work, I need the diversion.

see....I'm glad it makes you smile in your time of need

[nightfighter]

FWIW