All He Does Is Fight

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

I honestly can't follow much of that gibberish. If you want to deny that China was grossly negligent in this, that's fine. The Gallup poll showed that America approves of the way Trump is handling this.

Meanwhile, Gov Cuomo defied all logic and forced nursing homes to admit covid-positive residents, when he knew there were tons of available hospital beds, and lots of people died as a result. This is irrefutable, yet the media won't touch it. DO you have an opinion, by any chance? Is that Trumps fault?

Funny how a yes or no answer is gibberish. On the use of the word deliberately...

Yes Fox has been trying to attack Cuomo

But the truth is. From the article. We can’t say for sure” whether the virus has spread because of the patients transferred under the state mandate,
But on fox that part doesn't matter and seems your hindsight only applies to everyone but Trump

seeing my wife works in a nursing home who 3 weeks ago tested all residents and staff had 2 postive and 1 staff postive all on a Covid floor ( if positive or if they went to the hospital, they stayed for 14 day when then returned then to their room if no symptoms)

They just had 32 new positives in 2day this week on a different floor , not in NY in MASS. So fox blaming Coumo isnt a surprise. Or them blaming china or the CDC anyone but Trump I get it ..

Moral of the story is nursing homes have the most vulnerable populations many have DNR,s and are older it's a perfect storm and its spread by Staff , it's a horrible fact , and there is not a thing you can do to stop it.. trust me they are trying to stop it .. wait till the states who have opened up full speed and all those nursing homes in those states allowing families to visit again . It's not going to be pretty,,,,

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Funny how a yes or no answer is gibberish. On the use of the word deliberately...

Yes Fox has been trying to attack Cuomo

But the truth is. From the article. We can’t say for sure” whether the virus has spread because of the patients transferred under the state mandate,
But on fox that part doesn't matter and seems your hindsight only applies to everyone but Trump

seeing my wife works in a nursing home who 3 weeks ago tested all residents and staff had 2 postive and 1 staff postive all on a Covid floor ( if positive or if they went to the hospital, they stayed for 14 day when then returned then to their room if no symptoms)

They just had 32 new positives in 2day this week on a different floor , not in NY in MASS. So fox blaming Coumo isnt a surprise. Or them blaming china or the CDC anyone but Trump I get it ..

Moral of the story is nursing homes have the most vulnerable populations many have DNR,s and are older it's a perfect storm and its spread by Staff , it's a horrible fact , and there is not a thing you can do to stop it.. trust me they are trying to stop it .. wait till the states who have opened up full speed and all those nursing homes in those states allowing families to visit again . It's not going to be pretty,,,,

so you have no problem with forcing nursing home to admit covid-19 patients. at least when prominent democrats give such orders.

my company provides professional liability insurance to nursing homes. many nursing homes will be sued, simply for following that idiotic order. because people died. we, and other carriers, will in some cases be asserting that cuomo did this.

what does your wife’s home have to do with this? is it in NY? no one is saying that every nursing home
death in the country is because of cuomo. what we’re saying is that because nursing homes are so vulnerable, it’s beyond stupid to force them to admit covid 19 residents. a nursing home isnt a hospital.

i am not in the habit of dodging questions. i couldn’t understand your previous email.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

so you have no problem with forcing nursing home to admit covid-19 patients. at least when prominent democrats give such orders.

my company provides professional liability insurance to nursing homes. many nursing homes will be sued, simply for following that idiotic order. because people died. we, and other carriers, will in some cases be asserting that cuomo did this.

what does your wife’s home have to do with this? is it in NY? no one is saying that every nursing home
death in the country is because of cuomo. what we’re saying is that because nursing homes are so vulnerable, it’s beyond stupid to force them to admit covid 19 residents. a nursing home isnt a hospital.

i am not in the habit of dodging questions. i couldn’t understand your previous email.
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It's so simple you cant follow along

Covid 19 is so contagious no matter if Cuomo never made them take them even it was to open beds in hospitals... its was going to get in nursing homes. , Hence wife's nursing home example they didn't get people from the Hospital and they still got hit and hit hard ,,

But with your mioptic view you only see what Fox tells you to see... cuomo equals. Nursing home deaths
And Trump taking hydroxychloroquine equals cure for covid. Neither conclusions are evidence based s what a surprise












EVERY NURISING HOME IN AMERICA IS FACING COVID 19 RAVAGING THEIR FACILITIES NO MATTER WHAT PROCEDURES THEY USE TO TRY TO PROTECT THEM...

and your always going to have some ambulance chaser wanting to sue because a 98 year old died. that's what they do at that age ... it's not Neglect if they get covid 19. IT Just sucks


More than 16,000 nursing home residents and staff have died from COVID-19, representing roughly a quarter of the nation's known coronavirus deaths. While dire, this figure is an undercount, experts warn, because not all states are publicly reporting data yet. In some states, more than half of coronavirus deaths have come in nursing homes.

https://www.aarp.org/caregiving/heal...es-deaths.html

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

It's so simple you cant follow along

Covid 19 is so contagious no matter if Cuomo never made them take them even it was to open beds in hospitals... its was going to get in nursing homes. , Hence wife's nursing home example they didn't get people from the Hospital and they still got hit and hit hard ,,

But with your mioptic view you only see what Fox tells you to see... cuomo equals. Nursing home deaths
And Trump taking hydroxychloroquine equals cure for covid. Neither conclusions are evidence based s what a surprise












EVERY NURISING HOME IN AMERICA IS FACING COVID 19 RAVAGING THEIR FACILITIES NO MATTER WHAT PROCEDURES THEY USE TO TRY TO PROTECT THEM...

and your always going to have some ambulance chaser wanting to sue because a 98 year old died. that's what they do at that age ... it's not Neglect if they get covid 19. IT Just sucks

So somehow you know, that forcing nursing homes to accept covid-19 patients, didn't cause anyone else to get infected. Your background and experience qualify you to make that conclusion?

I've seen emails from doctors at nursing homes begging the state not to be so stupid.

"EVERY NURISING HOME IN AMERICA IS FACING COVID 19 RAVAGING THEIR FACILITIES NO MATTER WHAT PROCEDURES THEY USE TO TRY TO PROTECT THEM... "

I work in this space for a living. There are plenty of nursing homes that are unaffected - call it luck, call it aggressive quarantines, but many are unaffected. I do this for a living, this is part of my job. My underwriters and I talk to nursing homes every single day about what their exposure has been. I talk to 5 or 6 nursing homes a day, every single day. Many are fine.

So when you say every nursing home is ravaged, what are you basing that on, exactly? The one home your wife works at?

Ask ANY nursing home director if admitting covid-19 residents was a good idea. For Gods sake man, most nursing homes wouldn't allow visitors who tested negative. But they'll allow residents who test positive?

Obviously, even without that idiotic law, many homes would get ravaged. That doesn't mean the law didn't make it worse.

Anyway, I'm very very interested to know your expertise in this area that renders you qualified to draw that conclusion. And if Cuomo was a republican, you'd be blaming him for every nursing home death in NY.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

So somehow you know, that forcing nursing homes to accept covid-19 patients, didn't cause anyone else to get infected. Your background and experience qualify you to make that conclusion?

yet you suggest it did cause people to get infected

I've seen emails from doctors at nursing homes begging the state not to be so stupid.

"EVERY NURISING HOME IN AMERICA IS FACING COVID 19 RAVAGING THEIR FACILITIES NO MATTER WHAT PROCEDURES THEY USE TO TRY TO PROTECT THEM... "

I work in this space for a living. There are plenty of nursing homes that are unaffected - call it luck, call it aggressive quarantines, but many are unaffected. I do this for a living, this is part of my job. My underwriters and I talk to nursing homes every single day about what their exposure has been. I talk to 5 or 6 nursing homes a day, every single day. Many are fine.

So when you say every nursing home is ravaged, what are you basing that on, exactly? The one home your wife works at?

Ask ANY nursing home director if admitting covid-19 residents was a good idea. For Gods sake man, most nursing homes wouldn't allow visitors who tested negative. But they'll allow residents who test positive?

Obviously, even without that idiotic law, many homes would get ravaged. That doesn't mean the law didn't make it worse.

Anyway, I'm very very interested to know your expertise in this area that renders you qualified to draw that conclusion. And if Cuomo was a republican, you'd be blaming him for every nursing home death in NY.

You just cant handle he gets better grades than trump on his Covid 19 handling