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Old 05-22-2020, 07:27 AM   #26
Pete F.
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Originally Posted by detbuch View Post
Man, you totally ignored everything I said, then pretend that you responded to it. You're a real piece of work.

Africa did not cover up, hide, keep secret information about the Ebola. China initially did about the Wuhan virus and its nature and transmissibility.

Africa did not block us or others from going there to help. China did. We were not allowed to "immediately have people on the ground" there, and still are not allowed.

By the time of Obama's administration, Ebola was not an unknown quantity. There were no mixed messages about its transmissibility. There was no messaging by the WHO or the Dems or the media that Ebola was not that serious--as there initially was about COVID. It was well known how deadly Ebola was. There was already a several year history of it. And there were not large batches of travelers from the infected areas going to the rest of the world as there were with COVID.

Ebola is far easier to contain than COVID because it is not an airborne disease. It is transmitted by direct contact with human bodily fluids.

Ebola had already been breaking out in various clusters in Africa for almost 40 years before Obama's administration. The advanced world's medical communities were familiar with it and knew to contain it to the African areas where it periodically would break out. Which was not difficult to do because of its method of transmission, because it was immediately recognized by the rest of the world when it occurred, because the Africans were totally and immediately open and cooperative about it, because there were no large contingents of travelers constantly going to and from those areas and the rest of the other continents. And it was known immediately in those areas that quarantining and restriction of travel was necessary.

That's why Ebola was/is an epidemic, not a pandemic. And why it was not difficult to prevent it from infesting the rest of the world. Deaths from Ebola outside of Africa are very, very rare.

Comparing the open and cooperative African Ebola situation with what happened in Wuhan with the nature of the COVID virus and the nature of the CCP is ridiculous. Claiming that Obama (and all of Europe and Asia, etc.) did some great thing to prevent Ebola from spreading in the U.S. and that Trump is totally negligent and the cause of the COVID spread here is ignorant.

The CCP enabled the Wuhan virus to become a pandemic. It is a worldwide pandemic (not an epidemic like Ebola) because of China, not because of the U.S. or Trump. And it is telling that Trump haters somehow conveniently seem not to notice any culpability in the other advanced nations or the WHO for the same kind of blame they want to heap on Trump. They want to point out the supposed competence of SK or Taiwan, ignore the failures of everyone else, and isolate Trump as some sole bumbling outlier--which creates the appearance of him being uniquely incompetent in doing what was supposedly not that difficult, and especially if he had listened to some vague, unspecified intelligence.

It is also interesting how the Dems and most mainstream media pin the blame squarely on Trump and give China a pass. The CCP must be very happy about that.

But you really take the cake. You so often respond to posts, as you did here to my post, by basically ignoring their content and just using them as springboards for more Trump bashing rhetoric.

God . . . it's frustrating trying to have a rational conversation with you. It's as if you often get caught in some lie, or ignorance, and just move on as if it never happened.
I read what you wrote, a lot of blaming others for Tweety's inaction.

You did not read what I wrote.
And nobody is giving China a pass, just trumplicans giving Tweety a pass.
Look at any number of other countries with smaller government agencies, less medical expertise and see how they did.
Nobody had magic, just payed attention and lead.
As I said

If Tweety has listened to our intelligence agencies rather than his good friend Xi many Americans would be alive today.
Tweety was more worried about cutting a “deal” with China than pushing Xi for access.
When you get your intelligence from Fox and the leader of a totalitarian government and don’t trust our organizations because you believe in wacko conspiracy theories you end up where we are today.
The Stable Genius is surrounding himself with more toadies everyday and expertise is not top of the list of qualifications.

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