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07-07-2020, 05:13 PM
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Ledge Runner Baits
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Originally Posted by detbuch
It has the major responsibility to do with it. Are you saying Congress is shirking its responsibility?
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Trumps handling of this health crisis even to now insisting schools reopen, is trashing the economy, congress has zip to do with it; other than try to legislate help to so many Americans, businesses and entire sections of our economy being devastated. Don’t blue font me, I already know your opinion, I don’t agree or care to debate. |
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07-07-2020, 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Got Stripers
Trumps handling of this health crisis even to now insisting schools reopen, is trashing the economy, congress has zip to do with it; other than try to legislate help to so many Americans, businesses and entire sections of our economy being devastated. Don’t blue font me, I already know your opinion, I don’t agree or care to debate.
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i have three young kids. i wouldn’t want schools
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much longer. they are losing out on the childhood they deserve. if older teachers with co morbidities need to retire, then they need to retire because they can’t do what the job now is. Kids need to go to school pretty soon.
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07-07-2020, 05:34 PM
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Ledge Runner Baits
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
i have three young kids. i wouldn’t want schools
closed
much longer. they are losing out on the childhood they deserve. if older teachers with co morbidities need to retire, then they need to retire because they can’t do what the job now is. Kids need to go to school pretty soon.
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Not arguing that kids are loosing out and I realize its he not just the educational loss, but the social aspect as well. Trump saying open without a comprehensive plan and well thought out safety and funding to make that happen are two different things. |
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07-07-2020, 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Got Stripers
Not arguing that kids are loosing out and I realize its he not just the educational loss, but the social aspect as well. Trump saying open without a comprehensive plan and well thought out safety and funding to make that happen are two different things.
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We have a republic, not a democracy. The federal government does not have a significant, if any, constitutional role in a comprehensive plan for education of our children. The President has even less than that. It is up to the states when to open the schools. And it is up to the states to fund it. |
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07-08-2020, 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
We have a republic, not a democracy. The federal government does not have a significant, if any, constitutional role in a comprehensive plan for education of our children. The President has even less than that. It is up to the states when to open the schools. And it is up to the states to fund it.
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What are you saying that potus doesn’t understand he can’t force the children back to class, or are you confirming the messaging from the top is dangerous and irresponsible? |
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07-08-2020, 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Got Stripers
What are you saying that potus doesn’t understand he can’t force the children back to class, or are you confirming the messaging from the top is dangerous and irresponsible?
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Wait for the threat to withhold federal funding for states who are concerned about opening.
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Nice, Trump made it 90 minutes after this post.
Just to make sure everyone is clear here, Trump is using your kids as pawns in his reelection campaign.
Last edited by spence; 07-08-2020 at 10:07 AM..
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07-08-2020, 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by spence
Wait for the threat to withhold federal funding for states who are concerned about opening.
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There should be no federal funds for education. And the federal government should quit taxing the bejesus out of everyone in the states in order to pay for the scads of programs the fed has no constitutional mandate to create.
Then the states would have enough of a not already overtaxed base to be able to tax their own citizens for the things those citizens want. |
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07-08-2020, 10:14 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spence
Wait for the threat to withhold federal funding for states who are concerned about opening.
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Nice, Trump made it 90 minutes after this post.
Just to make sure everyone is clear here, Trump is using your kids as pawns in his reelection campaign.
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Clap yourself on the back Nostradamus.
I'll give you another hard (using that word for all the pricks on this site) one. Will we have sun at some point this week? |
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07-08-2020, 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Got Stripers
What are you saying that potus doesn’t understand he can’t force the children back to class, or are you confirming the messaging from the top is dangerous and irresponsible?
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I'm not saying either. Are you asking for a debate, or for me to just shut up after you push my buttons so I will respond? |
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07-08-2020, 12:06 PM
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Ledge Runner Baits
Join Date: Oct 2000
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Originally Posted by detbuch
I'm not saying either. Are you asking for a debate, or for me to just shut up after you push my buttons so I will respond?
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You like golf, just look at it this way, I tee it up so you can do what you do best pontificate. |
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07-07-2020, 09:06 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim in CT
i have three young kids. i wouldn’t want schools
closed
much longer. they are losing out on the childhood they deserve. if older teachers with co morbidities need to retire, then they need to retire because they can’t do what the job now is. Kids need to go to school pretty soon.
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It’s going to take a lot more for Donald Trump & Betsy Devos to convince me they are pro-education than ordering people back to school during a pandemic.
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Lets Go Darwin
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07-07-2020, 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
It’s going to take a lot more for Donald Trump & Betsy Devos to convince me they are pro-education than ordering people back to school during a pandemic.
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I would be overjoyed if the federal Department of Education was abolished. The Constitution left education to the people and the states. What do you mean by "pro-education"? Are Trump and Devos anti-education? That's silly. But we shouldn't even be talking about their pro or anti education. That should strictly be a state and local issue. |
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07-08-2020, 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
I would be overjoyed if the federal Department of Education was abolished. The Constitution left education to the people and the states. What do you mean by "pro-education"? Are Trump and Devos anti-education? That's silly. But we shouldn't even be talking about their pro or anti education. That should strictly be a state and local issue.
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Sounds great. Let’s start be defunding DeVos.
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07-08-2020, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by RickBomba
Sounds great. Let’s start be defunding DeVos.
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Great, we agree the Dept. of Education should be abolished. |
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07-08-2020, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
Great, we agree the Dept. of Education should be abolished.
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No,
I’m saying Betsy is incompetent.
Our tax dollars hard at work.
Let her go back to being a rich elitist. She is the swamp.
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07-07-2020, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Got Stripers
Trumps handling of this health crisis even to now insisting schools reopen, is trashing the economy, congress has zip to do with it;
This makes no sense. The states are handling the health crisis. The states are handling the opening of the schools.
And Congress is the ultimate authority on the political handling of the economy.
Don’t blue font me, I already know your opinion, I don’t agree or care to debate.
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Then why are you debating? |
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