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08-22-2020, 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Tweety today
The deep state, or whoever, over at the FDA is making it very difficult for drug companies to get people in order to test the vaccines and therapeutics. Obviously, they are hoping to delay the answer until after November 3rd. Must focus on speed, and saving lives!
Remember he would have only the best people
He is accusing his handpicked FDA Chief, who reports to his handpicked HHS Secretary (both of whom have considerable drug industry experience and support), of not being capable of doing their jobs.
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There is a post on Facebook on the Walkaway group. It is posted by a man who grew up in Harlem as a Democrat. This man put up a picture of himself, Trump, a Mexican friend, and a black friend. All 3 of these men were union workers on many of Trumps projects, the Mexican guy ran a couple of them. He said Trump was the best guy they ever worked for. Even though he would come onto the job everyday, and make demands, say that this wasn't done right. He wanted it done quickly , correctly, he is a micro manager. These guys all love him, and they were lifelong Democrats. He used to buy the workers food, bring them shirts , hats, and talk to them about their families. It is no surprise that he would say those guys aren't capable, he wants it done faster, and correctly.
I do not deny that he is a blow hard, #^&#^&#^&#^& talker, but at the end of the day not one of you could attribute something he has done in office that has negatively affected you or your family. Up until this virus hit this country was rolling forward. It was becoming more prosperous. You guys lets some mean words bother the #^&#^&#^&#^& out of you and I find it hilarious.
The political forum is the worst thing that ever happened to this site, it really showed everyones true colors, that is why I rarely come on here anymore.
Go fishing, turn off the news
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Bent Rods and Screaming Reels!
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08-22-2020, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by TheSpecialist
Therbut at the end of the day not one of you could attribute something he has done in office that has negatively affected you or your family.
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That is a pretty bold statement. Especially after posting some cherry picked Facebook story that was likely put there by the Russians. There are a many ways he has negatively affected me and my family, especially his disastrous moves on air and water quality and public lands. I also vote based on how other people are affected by his actions and he has devastated this country. It isn't about his childish behavior, it is that he makes terrible decisions that negatively impact the lives of millions of people.
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No, no, no. we’re 30… 30, three zero.
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08-22-2020, 10:03 AM
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#33
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Originally Posted by TheSpecialist
There is a post on Facebook on the Walkaway group. It is posted by a man who grew up in Harlem as a Democrat. This man put up a picture of himself, Trump, a Mexican friend, and a black friend. All 3 of these men were union workers on many of Trumps projects, the Mexican guy ran a couple of them. He said Trump was the best guy they ever worked for. Even though he would come onto the job everyday, and make demands, say that this wasn't done right. He wanted it done quickly , correctly, he is a micro manager. These guys all love him, and they were lifelong Democrats. He used to buy the workers food, bring them shirts , hats, and talk to them about their families. It is no surprise that he would say those guys aren't capable, he wants it done faster, and correctly.
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You mean back when Trump was pro-choice and donating money to Hillary Clinton?
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I do not deny that he is a blow hard, #^&#^&#^&#^& talker, but at the end of the day not one of you could attribute something he has done in office that has negatively affected you or your family.
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I could name quite a few but it's noteworthy you focus on the individual, not what's happening to your neighbors, your community or your country.
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Up until this virus hit this country was rolling forward. It was becoming more prosperous. You guys lets some mean words bother the #^&#^&#^&#^& out of you and I find it hilarious.
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The economy was continuing the Obama recovery but in so many ways, our position in the world, rule of law, corruption in government, a near total leadership vacuum, environmental policy etc... etc... was and still is crumbling.
There's a reason so many Republicans are publicly standing up for Joe Biden...because they fear for our country.
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08-22-2020, 10:18 AM
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#34
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Originally Posted by spence
The economy was continuing the Obama recovery but in so many ways, our position in the world, rule of law, corruption in government, a near total leadership vacuum, environmental policy etc... etc... was and still is crumbling.
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The Obama "recovery" was the worst since WWII: https://www.forbes.com/sites/rexsinq.../#14c69cc8cb0e
But it's an effective, to some, talking point to somehow diminish what Trump's policies did to actually make the recovery well beyond anemic Obama one into an actually vitally expanding one. As well, your other talking points about position in the world, rule of law, corruption in government, leadership vacuum, are biased opinions highlighted by a sycophant media to make Trump look bad.
Just keep sayin'. Tell it long and hard enough and folks will believe.
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08-22-2020, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by zimmy
That is a pretty bold statement. Especially after posting some cherry picked Facebook story that was likely put there by the Russians. There are a many ways he has negatively affected me and my family, especially his disastrous moves on air and water quality and public lands. I also vote based on how other people are affected by his actions and he has devastated this country. It isn't about his childish behavior, it is that he makes terrible decisions that negatively impact the lives of millions of people.
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I'm pretty sure your posts are put here by russians ....
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08-22-2020, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
The Obama "recovery" was the worst since WWII: https://www.forbes.com/sites/rexsinq.../#14c69cc8cb0e
But it's an effective, to some, talking point to somehow diminish what Trump's policies did to actually make the recovery well beyond anemic Obama one into an actually vitally expanding one. As well, your other talking points about position in the world, rule of law, corruption in government, leadership vacuum, are biased opinions highlighted by a sycophant media to make Trump look bad.
Just keep sayin'. Tell it long and hard enough and folks will believe.
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bitter leftists desperately crying out for some psychological counseling
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08-22-2020, 10:29 AM
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What Tweety claimed today is that, under his leadership, the US government is sabotaging the development of a Covid-19 vaccine.
And he’s a manager?
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08-22-2020, 10:31 AM
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#38
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
What Tweety claimed today is that, under his leadership, the US government is sabotaging the development of a Covid-19 vaccine.
And he’s a manager?
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you should call someone and alert them....
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08-22-2020, 10:49 AM
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#39
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Originally Posted by detbuch
The Obama "recovery" was the worst since WWII: https://www.forbes.com/sites/rexsinq.../#14c69cc8cb0e
But it's an effective, to some, talking point to somehow diminish what Trump's policies did to actually make the recovery well beyond anemic Obama one into an actually vitally expanding one. As well, your other talking points about position in the world, rule of law, corruption in government, leadership vacuum, are biased opinions highlighted by a sycophant media to make Trump look bad.
Just keep sayin'. Tell it long and hard enough and folks will believe.
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Longest run job growth ever. Obama’s GDP the last three years stronger than Trumps. Keep shoveling.
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08-22-2020, 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
Longest run job growth ever. Obama’s GDP the last three years stronger than Trumps. Keep shoveling.
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Obama's RECOVERY stats, including GDP, were well below, on average, the recoveries from previous recessions/depression. Those in the past averaged well above or close to 4% GDP during recovery.
So Obama's comparatively anemic recovery took a lot longer to get above water, so to speak. And once achieving that point, it would be harder to maintain a 2 to 3% growth in GDP than it would from a recession low. 2-3% rise from a broken economy is not much growth, but the same percentage growth from a more stabilized economy is more difficult to sustain without actually significant expansion in the economy. To maintain similar growth of 2-3% after that, under Trump, would actually be the ideal growth rate from a "stable" economy, which would be more difficult to do than from a recession economy, so would be far more significant than Obama's similar numbers.
Also, it appears that different analysts have different numbers. Here's this from the FEE:
"That being said, Puzder has a compelling indictment of Obama’s performance:
'During a typical recovery, the economy grows at a rate between 3% and 4%, and the Obama administration predicted such a surge in its 2010 midsession review. It never came. The “recovery” of those years often felt much like a recession.'
"Amen. This echoes my criticism of Obamanomics. He made the US a bit more like Europe, so it’s no surprise that growth was weak.
"Let’s now look at Puzder’s evidence that Trump has done a better job. He compares the end of the Obama economy with the beginning of the Trump economy:
"GDP growth staggered along at 1.5% in Mr. Obama’s final six full quarters in office. …growth doubled to 3% during Mr. Trump’s first six full quarters. …the increase in job openings over Mr. Trump’s first 21 months has averaged an impressive 75,000 a month. Over Mr. Obama’s last 21 months in office, the number of job openings increased an average of 900 a month. …During Mr. Obama’s last 21 months, the number of employed Americans increased an average of 157,000 a month. Under Mr. Trump, the increase has accelerated to 214,000 a month, a 36% improvement. …In Mr. Obama’s final 21 months, weekly earnings rose an average of $1.31 a month. Under Mr. Trump, weekly earnings have increased an average of $1.84 cents a month: a 40% improvement that’s come mostly since tax reform took effect in January. Over that period, weekly earnings have grown an average of $2.31 a month, a 76% increase over Mr. Obama’s last 21 months. …The unemployment rate declined 13% during Mr. Obama’s last 21 months, but from there it has dropped another 23% during Mr. Trump’s tenure.'"
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08-24-2020, 05:06 AM
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Now do today
6,000,000 infected
180,000 dead
Millions unemployed
Fighting in the streets
It is what it is
Welcome to Tweety’s America
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08-24-2020, 05:26 AM
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4 More Years
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08-24-2020, 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Now do today
6,000,000 infected
180,000 dead
Millions unemployed
Fighting in the streets
It is what it is
Welcome to Tweety’s America
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Portland is not "trump's America"...Chicago is not "trump's America"...the states and cities where the virus has been most devastating and the cities where the riots have been most damaging are not "trump's America"...those are democrat socialist utopias...
Massachusetts had the highest unemployment rate in July, 16.1 percent, followed by New
York, 15.9 percent. The rates in Connecticut (10.2 percent), New Mexico (12.7 percent),
and New York (15.9 percent) set new series highs.
democrat governed not "trump's America"
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08-24-2020, 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by scottw
Portland is not "trump's America"...Chicago is not "trump's America"...the states and cities where the virus has been most devastating and the cities where the riots have been most damaging are not "trump's America"...those are democrat socialist utopias...
Massachusetts had the highest unemployment rate in July, 16.1 percent, followed by New
York, 15.9 percent. The rates in Connecticut (10.2 percent), New Mexico (12.7 percent),
and New York (15.9 percent) set new series highs.
democrat governed not "trump's America"
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So when it’s low it’s him and when it’s high “I take no responsibility at all”
Good luck selling that
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Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
Lets Go Darwin
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08-24-2020, 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by TheSpecialist
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Is she prepared or have they the White House demanded pre submitted questions?
I just find it odd that her binder is all tabs which she reads like tech on the phone does ... their not answers . But pre written responses with no follow up question allowed?
Seems the same reason people like her is why they like Trump . The feel she's sticking it to the fake media ... such a low bar.. or Aka lying fine as long as their side are the ones doing it..
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08-24-2020, 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
4 More Years
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Re-elect Trump and that may be all we have left.
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08-24-2020, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
So when it’s low it’s him and when it’s high “I take no responsibility at all”
Good luck selling that
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So when its low, it's not him, and when its high it is him? Is that what you're selling?
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08-24-2020, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by spence
Re-elect Trump and that may be all we have left.
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Ivanka 2024
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"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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08-24-2020, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
Ivanka 2024
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Ivanka has created jobs. Two of them. Hers and her husband’s.
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Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
Lets Go Darwin
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08-24-2020, 11:06 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by scottw
Portland is not "trump's America"...Chicago is not "trump's America"...the states and cities where the virus has been most devastating and the cities where the riots have been most damaging are not "trump's America"...those are democrat socialist utopias...
Massachusetts had the highest unemployment rate in July, 16.1 percent, followed by New
York, 15.9 percent. The rates in Connecticut (10.2 percent), New Mexico (12.7 percent),
and New York (15.9 percent) set new series highs.
democrat governed not "trump's America"
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
So when it’s low it’s him and when it’s high “I take no responsibility at all”
Good luck selling that
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Originally Posted by detbuch
So when its low, it's not him, and when its high it is him? Is that what you're selling?
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Are you speaking of the President of the Republican States?
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Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
Lets Go Darwin
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08-24-2020, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
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56% of Republicans find the current covid 19 death toll as acceptable.. fits his narrative as who and his supports see as True americans . An amazing sentiment from those who claim to be Patriots. And good Christians.. they tend to be the nastiest of the bunch
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08-24-2020, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Are you speaking of the President of the Republican States?
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Naw . . . I was speaking about you, not some propaganda film.
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08-24-2020, 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
Naw . . . I was speaking about you, not some propaganda film.
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Tune in to Tweety’s latest reality TV show, it’ll be on all week even though they’ve already done all the business of a convention, not setting a platform and have already selected their candidate.
What‘s left is what we're going to see tonight, the gaslighting of the country. We're going to see a theater of absurdity. Tweety telling us we should be glad he didn’t kill millions, but we should give him more time.
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Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
Lets Go Darwin
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08-24-2020, 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Tune in to Tweety’s latest reality TV show, it’ll be on all week even though they’ve already done all the business of a convention, not setting a platform and have already selected their candidate.
What‘s left is what we're going to see tonight, the gaslighting of the country. We're going to see a theater of absurdity. Tweety telling us we should be glad he didn’t kill millions, but we should give him more time.
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I watched most of it. It was pretty good.
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08-24-2020, 09:00 PM
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Quotes from the 2016 RNC are a devastating indictment of Trump’s 2020 record.
Trump, 2016 GOP Convention: “The most basic duty of government is to defend the lives of its own citizens. Any government that fails to do so is a government unworthy to lead.”
Of course, it is what it is
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08-24-2020, 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Quotes from the 2016 RNC are a devastating indictment of Trump’s 2020 record.
Trump, 2016 GOP Convention: “The most basic duty of government is to defend the lives of its own citizens. Any government that fails to do so is a government unworthy to lead.”
Of course, it is what it is
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No indictment there of Trump's record. For you, everything indicts Trump of something.
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08-25-2020, 07:04 AM
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"I take no responsibility."
"I alone can fix it."
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08-25-2020, 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
"I take no responsibility."
"I alone can fix it."
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multitasking
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08-25-2020, 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by scottw
multitasking
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Gaslighting
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Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
Lets Go Darwin
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08-25-2020, 08:24 AM
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It is what it is! Hey someone call and fire up the chopper, I have a 10am tee time.
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