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08-31-2020, 07:10 PM
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biden blames trump supporters for violence of last three months
in a speech today, biden finally discussed the violence of the last three months, and blamed it all on...trumps supporters.
but trump is a liar.
trump controls the political climate in portland. portland, oregon, bring such a hotbed of conservatism.
right?
trump has enough flaws to fill the oceans. but these riots this summer are liberal riots.
Chris Cuomo: ‘show me where it says protesters are supposed to be peaceful.’
but it’s all right wingers, all inspired by trump. the democrats have clean hands, innocent as a newborn kitten.
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08-31-2020, 10:17 PM
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Why didn't Joe Biden speak to the nation from the Oval Office? Or call out the National Guard? Or submit a legislative program of some kind or sign a relevant Executive Order? Instead ... NOTHING. It's almost as if Biden thinks he isn't president at all.
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09-01-2020, 06:48 AM
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I’d rather point to the terrible job your hero has done, well unless you look at the stock market, which he equates to the economy. Trash the economy, trash the environment, trash civil discourse, trash rule of law and if your factoring in social security to your retirement plan; Forbes has a dire warning for us all. In junction with experts inside, they predict if Trumps plan to expand the payroll tax cut will bankrupt the social security system by 2023. If you think he is looking out for anyone other than the upper crust you are delusional.
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09-01-2020, 06:59 AM
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way to dodge, GS.
trump trashed the economy
GS? where was unemployment before we shut ourselves down? remind me?
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09-01-2020, 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Why didn't Joe Biden speak to the nation from the Oval Office? Or call out the National Guard? Or submit a legislative program of some kind or sign a relevant Executive Order? Instead ... NOTHING. It's almost as if Biden thinks he isn't president at all.
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lot of gibberish. why didn’t biden speak to the violence at the dnc, Pete?
democrats: there no violence. and if there is, its all trumps fault.
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09-01-2020, 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
way to dodge, GS.
trump trashed the economy
GS? where was unemployment before we shut ourselves down? remind me?
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Look around Jim, this administrations piss pour handling on the health crisis has thrust this nation into a deep depression, but keep defending him. I only heard pieces of Biden’s speech on local news and I’d agree with him on what I heard, that Trump is fanning the flames of division and he has no clue how to fix it. Its just politics now for him, the more unrest the more he likes it for his new platform. A true leader would be looking for a way to help calm this nation down, not DJT because his new platform of the Law and Order president, requires more civil unrest to him him win. Jim you can’t see the forest through the trees.
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09-01-2020, 07:14 AM
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Pretty far off the wall, and he’s the most powerful person in the world
Trump: And Biden—well Biden is—I don’t even like to mention Biden, because he’s not controlling anything. They control him…
Ingraham: Who do you think is pulling Biden’s strings? Is it former Obama officials…?
Trump: People that you’ve never heard of. People that are in the dark shadows. People that…
Ingraham: What does that mean? That sounds like conspiracy theory. Dark shadows, what is that?
Trump: No. People that you haven’t heard of. They’re people that are on the streets. They’re people that are controlling the streets. We had somebody get on a plane from a certain city this weekend, and in the plane it was almost completely loaded with thugs wearing these dark uniforms, black uniforms with gear and this and that. They’re on a plane…
Ingraham: Where—where was this?
Trump: I’ll tell you sometime, but it’s under investigation right now, but they came from a certain city, and this person was coming to the Republican National Convention, and there were like seven people on the plane like this person, and then a lot of people were on the plane to do big damage. They were coming for…
Ingraham: Planning for Washington?
Trump: Yes, this was all—this is all happening.
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09-01-2020, 07:18 AM
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Look around Jim, this administrations piss pour handling on the health crisis has thrust this nation into a deep depression, but keep defending him. I only heard pieces of Biden’s speech on local news and I’d agree with him on what I heard, that Trump is fanning the flames of division and he has no clue how to fix it. Its just politics now for him, the more unrest the more he likes it for his new platform. A true leader would be looking for a way to help calm this nation down, not DJT because his new platform of the Law and Order president, requires more civil unrest to him him win. Jim you can’t see the forest through the trees.
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look around GS, the one meaningful thing trump did early on was restrict travel from china, a move panned by democrats as an overreaction. Biden called it hysterical and xenophobic. meaning, they would have done less. but let’s not let facts get in the way of a good foaming-at-the-mouth rant.
you also didn’t answer the question i asked.
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09-01-2020, 07:22 AM
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Pretty far off the wall, and he’s the most powerful person in the world
Trump: And Biden—well Biden is—I don’t even like to mention Biden, because he’s not controlling anything. They control him…
Ingraham: Who do you think is pulling Biden’s strings? Is it former Obama officials…?
Trump: People that you’ve never heard of. People that are in the dark shadows. People that…
Ingraham: What does that mean? That sounds like conspiracy theory. Dark shadows, what is that?
Trump: No. People that you haven’t heard of. They’re people that are on the streets. They’re people that are controlling the streets. We had somebody get on a plane from a certain city this weekend, and in the plane it was almost completely loaded with thugs wearing these dark uniforms, black uniforms with gear and this and that. They’re on a plane…
Ingraham: Where—where was this?
Trump: I’ll tell you sometime, but it’s under investigation right now, but they came from a certain city, and this person was coming to the Republican National Convention, and there were like seven people on the plane like this person, and then a lot of people were on the plane to do big damage. They were coming for…
Ingraham: Planning for Washington?
Trump: Yes, this was all—this is all happening.
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you’re right, the violence probably helps him. but it's left wingers committing 95% of the violence, not conservatives. they’re playing right into his hands. and that’s their choice, he isn’t forcing anyone to do anything. unlike democrats, he condemned the violence early on. they ignored it. the polling shows that was a mistake, so only now democrats acknowledge the violence, but say it’s all trumps fault. maybe that works. maybe it doesn’t.
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09-01-2020, 08:16 AM
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It’s a neat and cynical trick: Vote for me because what’s happening on my watch is unacceptable.
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09-01-2020, 08:21 AM
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It’s a neat and cynical trick: Vote for me because what’s happening on my watch is unacceptable.
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So Trump is 100% responsible for the violence. The mayors and governors have zero responsibility?
Look, for the tenth time, I give Trump a big fat F on this, I think he should have sent in overwhelming force as soon as it was apparent that local democrats weren't interested in telling their voters to knock it off. I agree he blew it. I think he had the responsibility to act, and chose not to for political reasons (every burning building sends independents to Trump).
But there is no rational logic to let locals off the hook Pete. Except for blind partisanship. And we all know which one of us that describes.
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09-01-2020, 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
look around GS, the one meaningful thing trump did early on was restrict travel from china, a move panned by democrats as an overreaction. Biden called it hysterical and xenophobic. meaning, they would have done less. but let’s not let facts get in the way of a good foaming-at-the-mouth rant.
you also didn’t answer the question i asked.
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You are funny spouting the Trump narrative, let’s call it what it was Jim, it was a partial ban which only caught a very small percentage of the cases coming our way. It was what transpired since the initial cases that really was irresponsible. I couldn’t care less who said what at the time, were they briefed daily, were they in touch with the WHO daily, did they have all the intel. If your going to spout the Trump narrative, be honest you too take responsibility for nothing.
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09-01-2020, 08:50 AM
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Shooting someone is as easy as missing a 3" putt.
Can't make this stuff up.
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09-01-2020, 09:14 AM
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At the debates there will be no Laura Ingraham there to stop him from sounding stark raving nuts. When he talks about ninja men on a plane, Biden will say, "You're nuts." The moderator will ask: WUT? And he is nuts.
Yet the anti-patriots cover for him.
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09-01-2020, 09:19 AM
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You are funny spouting the Trump narrative, let’s call it what it was Jim, it was a partial ban which only caught a very small percentage of the cases coming our way. It was what transpired since the initial cases that really was irresponsible. I couldn’t care less who said what at the time, were they briefed daily, were they in touch with the WHO daily, did they have all the intel. If your going to spout the Trump narrative, be honest you too take responsibility for nothing.
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"let’s call it what it was Jim"
I did call it what it was. Restricted travel from China. Read my post.
"I couldn’t care less who what democrats said what at the time"
Fixed it for you.
Why did the governors of CA and NY say that Trump did a great job supporting them? Are they in his camp?
On this issue, I struggle with blaming who for what. I don't know enough. The scientists agree on nothing. And all the politicians are saying only what current polling tells them to say.
Absurd to say I'm a Trump apologist. Im unbiased on Trump. I criticize him when he deserves it, and praise him when he deserves it.
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09-01-2020, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
At the debates there will be no Laura Ingraham there to stop him from sounding stark raving nuts. When he talks about ninja men on a plane, Biden will say, "You're nuts." The moderator will ask: WUT? And he is nuts.
Yet the anti-patriots cover for him.
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So why does Pelosi want no debates? If what you say is true, I'd think the democrats would be dying to debate him and show him for what he is.
Pelosi's desire for no debates, spits in the face of what you desperately want to be true, Pete.
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09-01-2020, 09:29 AM
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Biden: "When I was Vice President, violent crime fell 15% in this country. We did it without chaos and disorder...
The murder rate is up 26% in cities across the nation this year under Donald Trump.
Do you feel really safer under Trump?"
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09-01-2020, 09:41 AM
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Biden: "When I was Vice President, violent crime fell 15% in this country. We did it without chaos and disorder...
The murder rate is up 26% in cities across the nation this year under Donald Trump.
Do you feel really safer under Trump?"
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If you place blame where it belongs, yes.
So liberals go berserk under Trump, resort to feral violence. And it's his fault, not their fault.
Makes ALL KINDS of sense.
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09-01-2020, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Biden: "When I was Vice President, violent crime fell 15% in this country. We did it without chaos and disorder...
The murder rate is up 26% in cities across the nation this year under Donald Trump.
Do you feel really safer under Trump?"
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Biden also said there were no race riots during his administration.
Except Ferguson happened.
Let's just make it all up as we go along?
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09-01-2020, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Biden: "When I was Vice President, violent crime fell 15% in this country. We did it without chaos and disorder...
The murder rate is up 26% in cities across the nation this year under Donald Trump.
Do you feel really safer under Trump?"
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What you're saying, is that if the mob threatens violence if we don't elect who they want, we should give in and elect who the mob demands.
Like giving in to a child throwing a temper tantrum.
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09-01-2020, 09:59 AM
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Election Day is nine weeks from today.
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09-01-2020, 09:59 AM
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Biden also said there were no race riots during his administration.
Except Ferguson happened.
Let's just make it all up as we go along?
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I listened to the entire thing and didn't hear this. Maybe you're confusing things with Trump's planeload of black clad shadow terrorists.
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09-01-2020, 10:08 AM
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Jim just repeats the Trumplican's lies, there is no point in arguing with him. Just produce the evidence that shows he's full of baloney. There are times, even in a democracy, where you have to let go of trying to convince people of anything and you assemble a coalition and outvote them - especially if they're lost in a conspiracy cult.
Biden said what?
https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts...ript-august-31
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09-01-2020, 10:15 AM
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its to funny only Trump cam blames other like mayors antifa dem run areas
But for Jim you cant blame Trump the leader of the free world thats outrageous
I have said it many times he's the captain of the ship and thats been excused away
Again simple logic how Can Trump Blame Biden for Future events ?cant wait
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09-01-2020, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Pretty far off the wall, and he’s the most powerful person in the world
Trump: And Biden—well Biden is—I don’t even like to mention Biden, because he’s not controlling anything. They control him…
Ingraham: Who do you think is pulling Biden’s strings? Is it former Obama officials…?
Trump: People that you’ve never heard of. People that are in the dark shadows. People that…
Ingraham: What does that mean? That sounds like conspiracy theory. Dark shadows, what is that?
Trump: No. People that you haven’t heard of. They’re people that are on the streets. They’re people that are controlling the streets. We had somebody get on a plane from a certain city this weekend, and in the plane it was almost completely loaded with thugs wearing these dark uniforms, black uniforms with gear and this and that. They’re on a plane…
Ingraham: Where—where was this?
Trump: I’ll tell you sometime, but it’s under investigation right now, but they came from a certain city, and this person was coming to the Republican National Convention, and there were like seven people on the plane like this person, and then a lot of people were on the plane to do big damage. They were coming for…
Ingraham: Planning for Washington?
Trump: Yes, this was all—this is all happening.
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George Soros is probably meeting now in the basement of a basementless pizza joint to plan the coup.
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09-01-2020, 11:16 AM
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Look around Jim, this administrations piss pour handling on the health crisis has thrust this nation into a deep depression, but keep defending him. I only heard pieces of Biden’s speech on local news and I’d agree with him on what I heard, that Trump is fanning the flames of division and he has no clue how to fix it. Its just politics now for him, the more unrest the more he likes it for his new platform. A true leader would be looking for a way to help calm this nation down, not DJT because his new platform of the Law and Order president, requires more civil unrest to him him win. Jim you can’t see the forest through the trees.
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Bob look around yourself, the pandemic response is controlled at a state level. Your governors have done a piss poor job. Only need to look at NYS and see that the head #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& in charge , needlessly killed more people by sending cover positive patients to. be quarantined in Nursing homes
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Bent Rods and Screaming Reels!
Spot NAZI
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09-01-2020, 11:20 AM
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I listened to the entire thing and didn't hear this. Maybe you're confusing things with Trump's planeload of black clad shadow terrorists.
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I don't know what you listened to, I don't know what you mean by "the thing".
Was an interview with MSNBC. God knows they didn't correct him.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bid...ferguson-obama
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09-01-2020, 11:22 AM
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Jim just repeats the Trumplican's lies, there is no point in arguing with him. Just produce the evidence that shows he's full of baloney. There are times, even in a democracy, where you have to let go of trying to convince people of anything and you assemble a coalition and outvote them - especially if they're lost in a conspiracy cult.
Biden said what?
https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts...ript-august-31
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Here's the Biden quote. Yup, you sure showed me.
Biden said there were no race riots during his last 4 years. Either he lied, or he forgot about a major event, an indication of his dementia. Pleae tell us Pete, which is it.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bid...ferguson-obama
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09-01-2020, 11:23 AM
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Bob look around yourself, the pandemic response is controlled at a state level. Your governors have done a piss poor job. Only need to look at NYS and see that the head #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& in charge , needlessly killed more people by sending cover positive patients to. be quarantined in Nursing homes
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Some of this is on Trump, some is on the governors, obviously. They don't see that, TDS prevents them from seeing it.
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09-01-2020, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
Here's the Biden quote. Yup, you sure showed me.
Biden said there were no race riots during his last 4 years. Either he lied, or he forgot about a major event, an indication of his dementia. Pleae tell us Pete, which is it.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bid...ferguson-obama
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As usual, you mislead
"For the last four years we weren't having riots, racial riots," he said of his second term with Obama. " When they occurred, we didn't have to call in the National Guard."
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