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09-04-2020, 07:18 AM
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But The Rain Might Ruin My Hair
Too late. Your hair has sucked for your whole, bloated life.
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He’s fizzling. 59 more days. He just keeps looking worse.
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09-04-2020, 07:34 AM
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Cowardice is what landed the Trumps in the US to begin with.
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09-04-2020, 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by RickBomba
Too late. Your hair has sucked for your whole, bloated life.
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He’s fizzling. 59 more days. He just keeps looking worse.
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i cant see trump winning. i said the same thing four years ago.
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09-04-2020, 12:11 PM
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Bad market two days in a row, that’s going to keep him up tonight, you know how he loves to point to how well the “economy” is doing.
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09-04-2020, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Got Stripers
Bad market two days in a row, that’s going to keep him up tonight, you know how he loves to point to how well the “economy” is doing.
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Christ almighty, you never say anything about how insanely well
the market has performed since he took over. But two bad days are supposed to be an indicator?
He gets an A on stock market growth.
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09-04-2020, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by RickBomba
Too late. Your hair has sucked for your whole, bloated life.
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He’s fizzling. 59 more days. He just keeps looking worse.
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This is a 2 year-old story, it was debunked then. Anonymous sources made the claim, and multiple sources went on record as rejecting it, including Josh Bolton who hates Trump.
You bought a lie here.
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09-04-2020, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
Christ almighty, you never say anything about how insanely well
the market has performed since he took over. But two bad days are supposed to be an indicator?
He gets an A on stock market growth.
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Hey I’m having fun poking at the orange brigade, between the market going south and the military up in arms about his comments, this is going to be a tough weekend for Cheeto. If I know him he will be out on the golf course to calm his nerves.
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09-04-2020, 12:44 PM
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Hey I’m having fun poking at the orange brigade, between the market going south and the military up in arms about his comments, this is going to be a tough weekend for Cheeto. If I know him he will be out on the golf course to calm his nerves.
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Show us anything to suggest the military is up in arms about "his comments" which were debunked two years ago.
Isn't there enough actual moral baggage with him? Why do you need to make stuff up?
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09-04-2020, 01:09 PM
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How is there any real argument about whether the President privately called soldiers who were injured or killed “losers” when he publicly said the same thing about John McCain?
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09-04-2020, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
Show us anything to suggest the military is up in arms about "his comments" which were debunked two years ago.
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https://www.militarytimes.com/news/p...ote-for-biden/
I think Trump beat Clinton 2:1 in 2016.
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09-04-2020, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Got Stripers
If I know him he will be out on the golf course to calm his nerves.
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And making a quick 100K from the suckers
We’ve spent an estimated 141M for him to play 275 times at his golf courses, that’s 500K a round and assume 20% gross profit it’s 100K for Tweety.
After a golf course has covered it’s nut, money it receives is largely profit, so it actually could be higher
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09-04-2020, 01:51 PM
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I saw that polling. I was asking for evidence that troops are upset by Trumps alleged "comments" about war dead being suckers.
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09-04-2020, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
I saw that polling. I was asking for evidence that troops are upset by Trumps alleged "comments" about war dead being suckers.
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Are you?
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09-04-2020, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
And making a quick 100K from the suckers
We’ve spent an estimated 141M for him to play 275 times at his golf courses, that’s 500K a round and assume 20% gross profit it’s 100K for Tweety.
After a golf course has covered it’s nut, money it receives is largely profit, so it actually could be higher
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Do Trump's courses actually charge Trump for playing golf? My experience working for golf courses is that employees (and certainly owners) play for free.
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09-04-2020, 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Got Stripers
Hey I’m having fun poking at the orange brigade, between the market going south and the military up in arms about his comments, this is going to be a tough weekend for Cheeto. If I know him he will be out on the golf course to calm his nerves.
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Today's employment report was very good.
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09-04-2020, 02:04 PM
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So you comp him and his foursome for the round with carts, charge secret service for carts and rooms at weekend rates, etc
Google is easy
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09-04-2020, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
So you comp him and his foursome for the round with carts, charge secret service for carts and rooms at weekend rates, etc
Google is easy
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Trump's companies do not charge nor receive money for secret service cart rentals. Those are done by secret service contracts with non-Trump cart rental services. Just as they did when protecting Obama and other presidents. And they have always had to pay for room and board when protecting past presidents golf outings as well.
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09-04-2020, 02:53 PM
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Where did previous presidents play golf?
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09-04-2020, 03:06 PM
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Trump attacked McCain. We all saw that. He attacked gold star families. We all saw that, too. Don't try walking it back.
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09-04-2020, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Trump attacked McCain. We all saw that. He attacked gold star families. We all saw that, too. Don't try walking it back.
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He attacked McCain, and he attacked a gold star family (not all of them in general, still scummy). There is zero evidence he said war dead are losers and suckers. It's debunked.
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09-04-2020, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Where did previous presidents play golf?
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Secret Service would have paid for cart rentals regardless of where previous presidents played. Trumps courses are net getting paid for cart rentals. Secret Service contracted the rentals from non-Trump companies.
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09-04-2020, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
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From your trumpgolfcount.com:
Trump Golf Count Cost Breakdown:
AF1 flights to Mar-a-Lago: $59,110,000
Trump AF1 flight expenses are not paid to Trump properties. If he were to go to non-Trump golf courses, it would still cost the government flight expenses. Wherever the Trump or any other President goes with AF1, it would cost the government. Other Presidents used AF1 to go to golf courses. This is not some peculiar Trump expense.
AF1 flights to Bedminster: $23,515,500
Trump AF1 flight expenses are not paid to Trump properties. If he were to go to non-Trump golf courses, it would still cost the government flight expenses. Wherever the Trump or any other President goes with AF1, it would cost the government. Other Presidents used AF1 to go to golf courses. This is not some peculiar Trump expense.
Costs to Bedminster, Palm Beach*: $23,069,405
I don't know what this cost is and it probably would be a similar cost at a non-Trump location and past presidents would have incurred similar costs.
Cost to guard coast off Mar-a-Lago: $29,972,000
Trump does not financially profit from Coast Guard expenses and any other President would incur such Coast Guard expenses if they played at Mar-a-lago or any other seaside or Coast Guard protected area golf courses.
Luxury car rental in Turnberry, Scotland: $1,260,139
Car rentals in Turnberry are not owned by Trump.
Any other president playing there or anywhere else in Scotland would create similar car rental costs.
Cost of stay at Trump Turnberry, Scotland: $68,800
Total cost of staying in Doonberg, Ireland: $3,600,000
Total Cost: $140,595,844
So, of the $140,595,844 expenses only $3,668.800 (with a possible added $23,069,405 for Bedminster whatever that is) went to Trump properties, and if non-Trump properties had been chosen, similar costs would have occurred. And any other president would have created similar costs for golfing in Scotland and Ireland.
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09-04-2020, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
From your trumpgolfcount.com:
Trump Golf Count Cost Breakdown:
AF1 flights to Mar-a-Lago: $59,110,000
Trump AF1 flight expenses are not paid to Trump properties. If he were to go to non-Trump golf courses, it would still cost the government flight expenses. Wherever the Trump or any other President goes with AF1, it would cost the government. Other Presidents used AF1 to go to golf courses. This is not some peculiar Trump expense.
AF1 flights to Bedminster: $23,515,500
Trump AF1 flight expenses are not paid to Trump properties. If he were to go to non-Trump golf courses, it would still cost the government flight expenses. Wherever the Trump or any other President goes with AF1, it would cost the government. Other Presidents used AF1 to go to golf courses. This is not some peculiar Trump expense.
Costs to Bedminster, Palm Beach*: $23,069,405
I don't know what this cost is and it probably would be a similar cost at a non-Trump location and past presidents would have incurred similar costs.
Cost to guard coast off Mar-a-Lago: $29,972,000
Trump does not financially profit from Coast Guard expenses and any other President would incur such Coast Guard expenses if they played at Mar-a-lago or any other seaside or Coast Guard protected area golf courses.
Luxury car rental in Turnberry, Scotland: $1,260,139
Car rentals in Turnberry are not owned by Trump.
Any other president playing there or anywhere else in Scotland would create similar car rental costs.
Cost of stay at Trump Turnberry, Scotland: $68,800
Total cost of staying in Doonberg, Ireland: $3,600,000
Total Cost: $140,595,844
So, of the $140,595,844 expenses only $3,668.800 (with a possible added $23,069,405 for Bedminster whatever that is) went to Trump properties, and if non-Trump properties had been chosen, similar costs would have occurred. And any other president would have created similar costs for golfing in Scotland and Ireland.
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So your ok with all the tax payer money for so much golf, provided the Trump family isn’t making too much, I personally would prefer he spend more time doing his job. Actually watching the piss poor job he is doing, maybe I’d rather see him tee one up instead.
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09-04-2020, 04:56 PM
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So your ok with all the tax payer money for so much golf, provided the Trump family isn’t making too much, I personally would prefer he spend more time doing his job. Actually watching the piss poor job he is doing, maybe I’d rather see him tee one up instead.
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Are you assuming that there would not be a host of other Secret Service costs for the time Trump played golf if he had not played golf? Secret Service is 24/7 no matter what the President does. AF1 expenses for non golf cost just as much. I don't know what the excess his golf costs above normal 24/7 presidential expenses are. I'm guessing that whatever Trump would have done if he had played only as much golf as Obama, it still would have cost the government a lot of money for traveling, living, and Secret Service expenses.
He spends plenty of time doing his job. I don't think there is some tabulation that shows he spends less time doing his job than most. Apparently, he doesn't sleep much. And he's not doing a poor job. He has done a lot of what Republicans have professed needs to be done but somehow have been incapable of doing, in spite of opposition from both parties.
And I'm not OK with most of the way government spends tax payer dollars. I'm not OK with the direction our system of government has been evolving. I am less than not OK with the people of this nation being dumbed down to the notion that Progressive politics is the answer for what ails us. I prefer to argue about that rather than whether Trump plays too much golf.
But you won't.
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09-04-2020, 06:07 PM
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If we look at the previous President and others, you’ll find that they played at military golf courses a lot, in Obama’s case 74% of the time with the rest split pretty close to equally between public and private.
Trump has played almost exclusively at his own properties with a few exceptions for a round in Japan and never at a military course.
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09-04-2020, 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
If we look at the previous President and others, you’ll find that they played at military golf courses a lot, in Obama’s case 74% of the time with the rest split pretty close to equally between public and private.
Trump has played almost exclusively at his own properties with a few exceptions for a round in Japan and never at a military course.
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This is very important . . .BTW, did the secret service accompany him, and were they provided golf carts, and did he use AF1 to get there?
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09-04-2020, 06:32 PM
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He doesn’t play at military courses because they are losers.
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09-04-2020, 07:09 PM
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Now Trump is saying he even phoned Melania back in Washington to say how disappointed he was that he couldn’t go to the military cemetery outside of Paris. In fact, Melania was with him in Paris. He just made up his alibi.
As Columbo would say:
“You try to contrive a perfect alibi, and it's your perfect alibi that's gonna hang ya.”
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09-05-2020, 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
This is a 2 year-old story, it was debunked then. Anonymous sources made the claim, and multiple sources went on record as rejecting it, including Josh Bolton who hates Trump.
You bought a lie here.
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Oh Jim,
Verified by Jennifer Griffin at Fux News, just yesterday.
2 year old story...more like a 2 year old POSTUS.
Everything will be better in 57 days.
You’ll see.
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