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Old 11-08-2020, 02:36 PM   #1
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Hillary is still making these unifying and inclusive statements:

“I was the candidate that they basically stole an election from,” Clinton said Monday on the New York Times Oct. 26 2020 podcast “Sway.

"there is a deep sense of unfairness and just dismissiveness toward his [Trump] victory, and he knows it,”

Clinton also claimed that she was “born” for the presidency,

Her election loss, Clinton complained, was partially due to a disinformation campaign stemming from “vast right-wing conspiracy.”

"I mean, the disinformation was incredibly pervasive,” Clinton said.

“That kind of craziness is baked into the Republican right in this point in our history,”

Clinton claims that she “can’t entertain the idea of [Trump] winning” and that “it would cause cognitive dissonance of a grave degree.” She also called Republicans “cowards and spineless enablers of him.”

“It makes me literally sick to my stomach to think that we’d have four more years of this abuse and destruction of our institutions, and damaging of our norms and our values, and lessening of our leadership and the list goes on,” Clinton said.

In addition to accusing Trump of “abuse of power,” Clinton also said that he “lives with this specter of illegitimacy.”

Clinton continued to criticize Trump, saying she would never invite him on her own podcast

Yessir, these are the kind of unifying and inclusive statements made by Dems throughout the Trump administration.
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Old 11-08-2020, 02:50 PM   #2
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Hillary is still making these unifying and inclusive statements:

“I was the candidate that they basically stole an election from,” Clinton said Monday on the New York Times Oct. 26 2020 podcast “Sway.

"there is a deep sense of unfairness and just dismissiveness toward his [Trump] victory, and he knows it,”

Clinton also claimed that she was “born” for the presidency,

Her election loss, Clinton complained, was partially due to a disinformation campaign stemming from “vast right-wing conspiracy.”

"I mean, the disinformation was incredibly pervasive,” Clinton said.

“That kind of craziness is baked into the Republican right in this point in our history,”

Clinton claims that she “can’t entertain the idea of [Trump] winning” and that “it would cause cognitive dissonance of a grave degree.” She also called Republicans “cowards and spineless enablers of him.”

“It makes me literally sick to my stomach to think that we’d have four more years of this abuse and destruction of our institutions, and damaging of our norms and our values, and lessening of our leadership and the list goes on,” Clinton said.

In addition to accusing Trump of “abuse of power,” Clinton also said that he “lives with this specter of illegitimacy.”

Clinton continued to criticize Trump, saying she would never invite him on her own podcast

Yessir, these are the kind of unifying and inclusive statements made by Dems throughout the Trump administration.
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Old 11-08-2020, 03:04 PM   #3
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Hillary is still making these unifying and inclusive statements:

“I was the candidate that they basically stole an election from,” Clinton said Monday on the New York Times Oct. 26 2020 podcast “Sway.

"there is a deep sense of unfairness and just dismissiveness toward his [Trump] victory, and he knows it,”

Clinton also claimed that she was “born” for the presidency,

Her election loss, Clinton complained, was partially due to a disinformation campaign stemming from “vast right-wing conspiracy.”

"I mean, the disinformation was incredibly pervasive,” Clinton said.

“That kind of craziness is baked into the Republican right in this point in our history,”

Clinton claims that she “can’t entertain the idea of [Trump] winning” and that “it would cause cognitive dissonance of a grave degree.” She also called Republicans “cowards and spineless enablers of him.”

“It makes me literally sick to my stomach to think that we’d have four more years of this abuse and destruction of our institutions, and damaging of our norms and our values, and lessening of our leadership and the list goes on,” Clinton said.

In addition to accusing Trump of “abuse of power,” Clinton also said that he “lives with this specter of illegitimacy.”

Clinton continued to criticize Trump, saying she would never invite him on her own podcast

Yessir, these are the kind of unifying and inclusive statements made by Dems throughout the Trump administration.
Is that why the victim spent his whole presidency running against Hillary and Obama
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Old 11-08-2020, 08:32 PM   #4
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Is that why the victim spent his whole presidency running against Hillary and Obama
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what did liberals spend the last 4 years doing? supporting trump and coming together, as biden is asking us to now do?
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Old 11-08-2020, 09:19 PM   #5
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what did liberals spend the last 4 years doing? supporting trump and coming together, as biden is asking us to now do?
Maybe Biden can make up for the divisiveness of the Obama/Biden administration. The nation was hoping for great things, for racial togetherness being created when they were elected. Instead, the racial divide got worse.
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at this point in 2016 the democrats were already plotting trump's impeachment...that's "normalcy" for them
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Old 11-09-2020, 08:15 AM   #7
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Maybe Biden can make up for the divisiveness of the Obama Instead, the racial divide got worse.

So in your eyes Trump helped close the racial divide ... love to hear how
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Let's see...

Lowest black unemployment ever
increased funding for black colleges
criminal justice reform
school choice'
economic opportunity zones in urban areas.

Every one of those things, disproportionately helps blacks.

That's waaay more that Obama and Biden did in 8 years for blacks. Way more.

Wayne, when Biden said "you ain't really black if you aren't for me", what did that do to bring us together? Do you have any opinion on that statement? Anything to say at all?
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Old 11-09-2020, 08:27 AM   #9
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The media wouldn't talk for one second about the things he did to lift blacks. So they kept saying he was a racist, kept saying he refused to denounce white supremacists at Charlottesville, when the transcript of his remarks shows he did.

Protect The Narrative! Won't someone please think of The Narrative!
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Biden was there 47 years. What did he do for blacks in that time, that helped them as much as what Trump did?

He told America that Clarence Thomas couldn't be trusted around women (that's not a racist stereotype), and he said poor children are just as smart as white children, he always supported Robert Byrd, he WROTE the crime bill which waged war on blacks and incarcerated them at ridiculous numbers, and said blacks aren't really black unless they agree with him.

Yeah that's some record...

Kamela Harris said a few months ago that Biden was a bigot. Was she lying then? Or is she lying now?
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Biden was there 47 years. What did he do for blacks in that time, that helped them as much as what Trump did?

He told America that Clarence Thomas couldn't be trusted around women (that's not a racist stereotype), and he said poor children are just as smart as white children, he always supported Robert Byrd, he WROTE the crime bill which waged war on blacks and incarcerated them at ridiculous numbers, and said blacks aren't really black unless they agree with him.

Yeah that's some record...

Kamela Harris said a few months ago that Biden was a bigot. Was she lying then? Or is she lying now?
What did Trump do to close the racial divide . That’s the question

Not but but biden
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what did liberals spend the last 4 years doing? supporting trump and coming together, as biden is asking us to now do?
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You talk as if Trump was willing to compromise he squandered his early days to unite the country he came right out of the gate With Red Vs Blue.

his goal and those of his followers were liberal tears and Fuk your feelings last 4 years

Now it their tears and their feelings
And support his fraud nonsense

Conservatives keep bring up the 2016 election and Russia No one ever suggested they used fake ballots or fraud when Trump won

The term was influenced huge huge difference from fraud and this was post election not pre election which Trump supporters seem to ignore with great effort
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You talk as if Trump was willing to compromise he squandered his early days to unite the country he came right out of the gate With Red Vs Blue.

his goal and those of his followers were liberal tears and Fuk your feelings last 4 years

Now it their tears and their feelings
And support his fraud nonsense

Conservatives keep bring up the 2016 election and Russia No one ever suggested they used fake ballots or fraud when Trump won

The term was influenced huge huge difference from fraud and this was post election not pre election which Trump supporters seem to ignore with great effort
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And you talk like you have a single-digit IQ, as I've said here 500 times that Trump is a vindictive baby. What would it take, for you to be honest, for two seconds?

Trump had no interest in working with thenm, and they had no interest in working with him, only impeaching him.

Biden has been a liberal attack dog for 50 years. 50 years he's been attacking and smearing and demonizing everyone on the other side, right up until a couple months ago, when he said blacks ain't black unless they vote for him.

And when Biden said to a roomful of blacks that Republicans "want to put y'all back in chains", that's at least as divisive as anything that Trump has ever said. But now that Biden is in charge, we're all supposed to forget everything he's done for 50 years and rally around him? Doesn't work that way.

I live here too, and so I hope in 4 years I conclude that he was the best president who ever lived. I really hop that. I'm not expecting it, and I've already donated to the GOP senate races in NC, but that's what I'm hoping for.

For 50 years, he's told the country that conservatives are loathsome hatemongers. Words matter. Trumps words matter (which I have criticized him for), and Bidens words also matter (which none of you except Rockhound would criticize him for). You aren't capable of doing it. Because to you, The Narrative rules all.
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If you didn't want to hear criticism pre-election, maybe we shouldn't have changed the rules (pre-election) to mail-in voting, which obviously has less integrity than in person voting with id. There's no way to confirm a mail-in vote was actually filled out by the person whose name is on the ballot. That's not rocket science.

I haven't even hinted here, that fraud tilted the election to Biden. I don't have access to any evidence, I have no compelling reason to believe that happened, other than the fact that after America went to sleep at 1AM on election night, every single state that mattered shifted mightily to Biden. Every single one, not one exception. That's not evidence of fraud, but it's interesting.

Hilary has spent the last 4 years blaming everyone and everything but herself. Gore contested the election in 2000 and no one cared.

Sorry, what's good for the goose.

If you put a bunch on completely non-political problem solvers in a room and charged them with coming up with a fair and accurate way to vote, they'd say (1) in person voting (when possible), and (2) check ids. That's not a flawed, rigged, biased way to do it.
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If you didn't want to hear criticism pre-election, maybe we shouldn't have changed the rules (pre-election) to mail-in voting, which obviously has less integrity than in person voting with id. There's no way to confirm a mail-in vote was actually filled out by the person whose name is on the ballot. That's not rocket science.

I haven't even hinted here, that fraud tilted the election to Biden. I don't have access to any evidence, I have no compelling reason to believe that happened, other than the fact that after America went to sleep at 1AM on election night, every single state that mattered shifted mightily to Biden. Every single one, not one exception. That's not evidence of fraud, but it's interesting.

Hilary has spent the last 4 years blaming everyone and everything but herself. Gore contested the election in 2000 and no one cared.

Sorry, what's good for the goose.

If you put a bunch on completely non-political problem solvers in a room and charged them with coming up with a fair and accurate way to vote, they'd say (1) in person voting (when possible), and (2) check ids. That's not a flawed, rigged, biased way to do it.
Maybe we should do what you suggest plus add in electoral college reform and move Election Day to a weekend ?

and Who cares what Hillary did she never claimed mass fraud just saying she just cried on the sidelines mostly in private

And your gore references was state 1 recount that the Supreme Court stopped and their involvement tarnished the court after that.. it isn’t remotely relevant To Trumps attacks on our election system and his willingness to overturn millions of votes to save face
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Maybe we should do what you suggest plus add in electoral college reform and move Election Day to a weekend ?

and Who cares what Hillary did she never claimed mass fraud just saying she just cried on the sidelines mostly in private

And your gore references was state 1 recount that the Supreme Court stopped and their involvement tarnished the court after that.. it isn’t remotely relevant To Trumps attacks on our election system and his willingness to overturn millions of votes to save face
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college if we want, there’s a mechanism to do that. or, the DNC could stop being the enemy of the middle of the country.

when obama calls them bitter clingers and racists, and biden says they want to put blacks in chains, and hilary says they’re deplorable and irredeemable, are you surprised they don’t flock to the democrats?
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There's no way to confirm a mail-in vote was actually filled out by the person whose name is on the ballot. That's not rocket science.
It's not rocket science, that's why states have security protocols that have an excellent track record of being effective.

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I have no compelling reason to believe that happened, other than the fact that after America went to sleep at 1AM on election night, every single state that mattered shifted mightily to Biden. Every single one, not one exception. That's not evidence of fraud, but it's interesting.
It's not even really that interesting. Everybody predicted Trump would jump ahead early but then Biden would gain ground as mail-in ballots were processed and that's exactly what happened.
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It's not rocket science, that's why states have security protocols that have an excellent track record of being effective.


It's not even really that interesting. Everybody predicted Trump would jump ahead early but then Biden would gain ground as mail-in ballots were processed and that's exactly what happened.
tell me how you confirm millions of mail in votes please? what are those protocols?
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you have a horrible memory....half of the country was insisting he was a traitor and needed to be impeached from day one.....half of the country and the media had no interest in being unified...they were on the attack

where do you get this crap?
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you have a horrible memory....half of the country was insisting he was a traitor and needed to be impeached from day one.....half of the country and the media had no interest in being unified...they were on the attack

where do you get this crap?
Half the country and you ask me where I get this crap..

Oh I forgot you were good with him asking Putin for help and asking Ukrainian help against Biden siding with Putin against the intel community and now his election fraud claims .. your a true Patriot

Ps he just fired his secretary of defense. I bet because he said the military’s roll wasn’t in elections
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