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11-11-2020, 06:28 PM
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The Dems fixed the election for Biden. (We can go back and forth with this silliness as long as you like.)
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11-11-2020, 06:30 PM
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If you stand in front of the American people and praise Xi’s response, when the National Security team is saying “he’s not your good friend” (stupid) then you have a hard time blaming Xi for your failure to act, especially when you pulled your people on the ground out.
Just keep believing
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11-11-2020, 06:42 PM
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If you stand in front of the American people and praise Xi’s response, when the National Security team is saying “he’s not your good friend” (stupid) then you have a hard time blaming Xi for your failure to act, especially when you pulled your people on the ground out.
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Not hard at all. China was responsible to the rest of the world, not just the U.S., to cooperate truthfully and immediately in the case of something like a novel corronavirus. China is the culprit in the spread and severity of the virus.
That's not a matter of my belief. What I do believe is that they failed to do what they were supposed to do, and purposely let the virus spread--around the world, not just the U.S.
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11-11-2020, 06:47 PM
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Trump’s mindless handling of almost everything insured the election win for Biden. (We can go back and forth with this silliness as long as you like.)
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11-11-2020, 06:50 PM
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Biden is obviously mindless.
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11-11-2020, 06:56 PM
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Trump show is tanking like the apprentice, but foil hatters continue to watch, go figure. He might find a way to make some money if he started his own wine brand.
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11-16-2020, 10:46 AM
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Trump coronavirus adviser Scott Atlas urges Michigan to 'rise up' against new Covid-19 measures.
How about telling Americans to Mask up against new COVID spikes ..
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11-16-2020, 01:31 PM
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Trumps administration refusing to start to work with the incoming Biden team, especially on the health crisis and security briefings endangers American lives. Still think he is looking out for all Americans, it’s all about him as it has been his entire life.
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11-16-2020, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Got Stripers
Trumps administration refusing to start to work with the incoming Biden team, especially on the health crisis and security briefings endangers American lives. Still think he is looking out for all Americans, it’s all about him as it has been his entire life.
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So much for America 1st Nothing comes before Trump
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11-16-2020, 04:08 PM
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Joe Biden has a coronavirus team...Trump’s team has coronavirus. That’s everything we need to know.
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Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
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11-20-2020, 07:38 PM
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Seems Republicans in the White House Trumps Family. The secret service the senate and the house will have herd immunity before the Nation. It must be a sign of strength and they will wear it like a badge of Honor
President Trump was following my condition and cleared me for the monoclonal antibody therapy that he had previously received, which I am convinced saved my life," Carson wrote
Kam happy for him and his family
But
Is this ethical?
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11-20-2020, 08:56 PM
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Obviously if you’re a good boy and behave we’ll take care of you. Especially if you’re the house........,,,..
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11-21-2020, 07:18 PM
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At some point we should look at whether Sweden's experiment ind heard immunity worked out
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11-24-2020, 05:01 AM
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At some point we should look at whether Sweden's experiment ind heard immunity worked out
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we should go back and look at a lot of what was said and speculated too
"Back in May, just after COVID-19 spiked across America, President Trump made a bold prediction about a coronavirus vaccine.
"We're looking to get it by the end of the year if we can, maybe before," Trump said May 14 in a White House Rose Garden event.
The next day, he wrote on Twitter: " Vaccine work is looking VERY promising, before end of year."
The mainstream media didn't like that prediction, not one little bit.
"But experts say that the development, testing and production of a vaccine for the public is still at least 12 to 18 months off, and that anything less would be a medical miracle," NBC News wrote May 15 in a "fact check."
NBC also sought comment from Dr. Stanley Plotkin, credited with inventing a rubella vaccine in 1964. "In the best of circumstances, we should have a vaccine — or let's say vaccines — between 12 and 18 months," Plotkin said.
Meanwhile, FactCheck.org investigated reports that Trump said in September a vaccine would be ready "by the end of the year."
Trump said in a Labor Day press conference. "What I said is 'by the end of the year.' But I think it could even be sooner than that. It could be during the month of October, actually. Could be before November."
"We looked through Trump's past comments on a vaccine, and did not find any cases in which he declared a vaccine would definitely be available by October or November," FactCheck.org wrote on Sept. 11 in a piece headlined, "Trump Exaggerates Progress."
"But he has suggested that the earlier time frame is even more likely. Experts and governmental officials disagree with that assessment."
Then there was CNN, which wrote a piece in August headlined, "Fact Check: Will there be a coronavirus vaccine by November?"
"Nothing is certain, and Trump's optimism might be crushed in the coming months," CNN wrote. "Some experts warn against throwing out specific dates and timelines. 'I think it's very dangerous at this point to give specific dates,' former Surgeon Gen. Dr. Vivek Murthy told CNN's Wolf Blitzer ..."
Slaoui said on CNN's "State of the Union." " On the 11th or the 12th of December, hopefully, the first people will be immunized across the United States, across all states."
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11-24-2020, 05:05 AM
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How about telling Americans to Mask up against new COVID spikes ..
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dear wayne...I bet more people are wearing masks more often than were wearing masks back in May....but somehow covid is surpassing May numbers by quite a bit....especially in states with democat governors who can, apparently, do whatever they deem necessary to protect their populations so why haven't these democrat governors and wanna-be democrats like baker stopped the spread of covid in their respective states???
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11-24-2020, 10:45 AM
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The earlier the vaccine is approved, the better - right?
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11-24-2020, 11:26 AM
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dear wayne...I bet more people are wearing masks more often than were wearing masks back in May....but somehow covid is surpassing May numbers by quite a bit....especially in states with democat governors who can, apparently, do whatever they deem necessary to protect their populations so why haven't these democrat governors and wanna-be democrats like baker stopped the spread of covid in their respective states???
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Agin you don’t see this a failed leadership From Trump and many Republicans,
so let me make this easy 50% if not more of those 74 million who voted have the odd idea in their head planted by Trump that the election was stolen due to mass fraud based on no evidence, based on Just what Trump told them, these same people think masks don’t work that their an infringement on their rights
And COVID just like the flu So being asked to social distance or limit gathering in your home is seen in the same light ,
It’s kind a hard to. Just say it’s every place or increased testing are the reasons it’s exploding .
so basically if Trump could convince his followers of fraud he could have done the same with everything COVID but he did not and others followed his lack of leadership SD Governor seems to playing the same Trump card
You keep using terms like prevention why make a suggest that’s isn’t factual ? when the plan is and has always been about mitigation and the list below shows were these were applied and followed the positive rates are lower
SD positivity rate 24%
RI 6%
Ma 3.5 %
Wyoming: 58.9 percent positive
New daily cases: 1,262
Tests per 1,000: 2.6
South Dakota: 44.1
New daily cases: 783
Tests per 1,000: 2.8
Iowa: 43.1
New daily cases: 3,128
Tests per 1,000: 2.2
Idaho: 40.1
New daily cases: 1,437
Tests per 1,000: 1.9
Kansas: 38.2
New daily cases: 7,707
Tests per 1,000: 2.5
Pennsylvania: 25.4
New daily cases: 6,800
Tests per 1,000: 2
New Mexico: 23.9
New daily cases: 2,252
Tests per 1,000: 5.3
Missouri: 22.6
New daily cases: 3,533
Tests per 1,000: 3.3
Alabama: 22.2
New daily cases: 1,574
Tests per 1,000: 2
Utah: 19.6
New daily cases: 2,244
Tests per 1,000: 5.4
Montana: 18.7
New daily cases: 701
Tests per 1,000: 6
Arizona: 18.5
New daily cases: 2,659
Tests per 1,000: 2.7
Mississippi: 18.2
New daily cases: 699
Tests per 1,000: 2.4
Oregon: 16.3
New daily cases: 1,163
Tests per 1,000: 1.8
Ohio: 15.9
New daily cases: 11,885
Tests per 1,000: 4.5
Wisconsin: 14.9
New daily cases: 3,455
Tests per 1,000: 7.4
Tennessee: 14.9
New daily cases: 4,074
Tests per 1,000: 3.6
Nevada: 14.1
New daily cases: 2,339
Tests per 1,000: 4.7
North Dakota: 13.6
New daily cases: 714
Tests per 1,000: 11.8
Arkansas: 13.4
New daily cases: 1,017
Tests per 1,000: 4.2
Oklahoma: 13.4
New daily cases: 3,544
Tests per 1,000: 5.7
Minnesota: 13.3
New daily cases: 6,343
Tests per 1,000: 8.7
Nebraska: 12.7
New daily cases: 1,860
Tests per 1,000: 9.3
Indiana: 11.9
New daily cases: 5,556
Tests per 1,000: 7.8
Michigan: 11.4
New daily cases: 11,943
Tests per 1,000: 6.5
Illinois: 10.9
New daily cases: 8,322
Tests per 1,000: 8.2
Kentucky: 10.6
New daily cases: 2,132
Tests per 1,000: 6.4
Colorado: 10.1
New daily cases: 3,689
Tests per 1,000: 8.5
Texas: 9.8
New daily cases: 6,251
Tests per 1,000: 3.7
https://www.beckershospitalreview.co...s-july-14.html
How is Trumps border wall so much different than a mask?
Is it built to prevent illegal immigration or to slow illegal immigrants
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11-24-2020, 12:05 PM
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So if Trump came out back in March and said let’s lock #^&#^&#^&#^& down and everybody must wear a mask, the 77 milllion that didn’t vote for him would have just unquestioningly said “That’s a great idea, I’m gonna do it”
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11-24-2020, 12:13 PM
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So if Trump came out back in March and said let’s lock #^&#^&#^&#^& down and everybody must wear a mask, the 77 milllion that didn’t vote for him would have just unquestioningly said “That’s a great idea, I’m gonna do it”
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Most were already doing it.. pay attention
Trump never cared about those 77 mil and still dosnt. Covid or voting hes attacked both . Heas aFake American
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11-24-2020, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
So if Trump came out back in March and said let’s lock #^&#^&#^&#^& down and everybody must wear a mask, the 77 milllion that didn’t vote for him would have just unquestioningly said “That’s a great idea, I’m gonna do it”
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If he had come out in his first COVID presser and demonstrated a few basic hygiene requirements (I assume you know them) and said we’re going to use the guidance, science, blah blah, He would have been re-elected.
That’s the opposite of what he did.
He didn’t need 77 million only around 3.5.
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11-24-2020, 01:06 PM
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Trump never cared about those 77 mil and still dosnt.
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please explain why trump has advcoated for, and celebrated, the following:
lowest black unemployment ever
school choice
criminal justice reform
increasing funding for black college creation of economic opportunity zones
doubling the standard deduction on income taxes
expanding child tax credits on income taxes
think about who benefits the most from those things. and tell me why trump advocated for them, please?
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11-24-2020, 01:21 PM
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Most were already doing it.. pay attention
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Nobody was doing it back in March, get a calendar, or a clue.
The CDC recommended masks in April.
“The wearing of non-medical face masks in public to lessen transmission of COVID-19 in the United States was first recommended by the CDC on April 3, 2020 as supplemental to hygiene and appropriate social distancing.”
If you remember correctly, there was a mask shortage in March.
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11-24-2020, 01:25 PM
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Nobody was doing it back in March, get a calendar, or a clue.
The CDC recommended masks in April.
“The wearing of non-medical face masks in public to lessen transmission of COVID-19 in the United States was first recommended by the CDC on April 3, 2020 as supplemental to hygiene and appropriate social distancing.”
If you remember correctly, there was a mask shortage in March.
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boy are they comfortable
revising history to fit their TDS needs. it’s as if trump himself had all the masks and respirators in february and refused to share because he’s a sociopath.
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11-24-2020, 01:30 PM
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please explain why trump has advcoated for, and celebrated, the following:
lowest black unemployment ever
school choice
criminal justice reform
increasing funding for black college creation of economic opportunity zones
doubling the standard deduction on income taxes
expanding child tax credits on income taxes
think about who benefits the most from those things. and tell me why trump advocated for them, please?
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Move on broken record
You still think black unemployment was a plan of Trumps ? A rising tides lifts all boats Jim we’ve been over this .
Just accept it Trumps COVID response shows little concern of the Heath of Americans, since the elections he has made it abundantly clear he has quit being President crying about voter fraud spending more time trying to overturn an election while the nation COVID cases and deaths spike! He has told the nation F you I am done how dare you vote me out.
Greatest President in our life times
Most un-American President in our life is more like it
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11-24-2020, 01:38 PM
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Nobody was doing it back in March, get a calendar, or a clue.
The CDC recommended masks in April.
“The wearing of non-medical face masks in public to lessen transmission of COVID-19 in the United States was first recommended by the CDC on April 3, 2020 as supplemental to hygiene and appropriate social distancing.”
If you remember correctly, there was a mask shortage in March.
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That’s all you got 1 month? That’szz your response . You sound like Jim and his black unemployment .
The CDC the task force all adjusted and issued and updated as they went
Trump and his cult ran in place and are still in the same place.
funny his attacks on our election and his fraud claims get little attention.. from you Jim or Scott .. but but March American 1st ya ok
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11-24-2020, 01:41 PM
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Move on broken record
You still think black unemployment was a plan of Trumps ? A rising tides lifts all boats Jim we’ve been over this .
Just accept it Trumps COVID response shows little concern of the Heath of Americans, since the elections he has made it abundantly clear he has quit being President crying about voter fraud spending more time trying to overturn an election while the nation COVID cases and deaths spike! He has told the nation F you I am done how dare you vote me out.
Greatest President in our life times
Most un-American President in our life is more like it
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so it’s valid for you to say trump
doesn’t care about half the country. that’s ok. but if i offer evidence to contradict that statement, i’m a broken record living in the past.
is that about right?
how much does biden care about those who disagree with him? he said to blacks that republicans “want to put y’all back in chains.”. he said that blacks aren’t really black unless they’re for him.
so how would i then conclude, that biden likes me and will represent my interests, if he thinks i’m advocating for slavery?
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11-24-2020, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
So if Trump came out back in March and said let’s lock #^&#^&#^&#^& down and everybody must wear a mask, the 77 milllion that didn’t vote for him would have just unquestioningly said “That’s a great idea, I’m gonna do it”
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Well, with the two week mask differential aside , many places were in lockdown by the end of March. Trump was also on the plus side for approval vs disapproval, all while most of the states heavy on the 77 million were in lockdown. I am guessing if he weren't such a moron about things and had behaved more like you supposed, he would probably be president going forward. Many of the 77 million wouldn't like his 50k other flaws, but his pandemic handling could have been just enough to save him. Oh darn.
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No, no, no. we’re 30… 30, three zero.
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11-24-2020, 03:13 PM
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Well, with the two week mask differential aside , many places were in lockdown by the end of March. Trump was also on the plus side for approval vs disapproval, all while most of the states heavy on the 77 million were in lockdown. I am guessing if he weren't such a moron about things and had behaved more like you supposed, he would probably be president going forward. Many of the 77 million wouldn't like his 50k other flaws, but his pandemic handling could have been just enough to save him. Oh darn.
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My point isn’t about winning or losing the election, my point is that whatever he said to do, half the country would have done the opposite because.....Trump.
Whether it’s right or wrong, they would just ignore it because of who delivered the message.
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11-24-2020, 03:17 PM
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so it’s valid for you to say trump
doesn’t care about half the country. that’s ok. but if i offer evidence to contradict that statement, i’m a broken record living in the past.
is that about right?
how much does biden care about those who disagree with him? he said to blacks that republicans “want to put y’all back in chains.”. he said that blacks aren’t really black unless they’re for him.
so how would i then conclude, that biden likes me and will represent my interests, if he thinks i’m advocating for slavery?
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Are you an angry black man trapped in a white mans body ?
Again nothing about Trump trying to overturn an American election shocking
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11-24-2020, 03:18 PM
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Whether it’s right or wrong, they would just ignore it because of who delivered the message.
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and because the entire media would’ve said that whatever he said, was the dumbest possible thing to say, and racist to boot.
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