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View Poll Results: Would you support Martial Law?
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03-13-2020, 08:35 AM
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Yes or no.
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03-13-2020, 11:24 AM
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No
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03-13-2020, 11:31 AM
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The only people to answer yes to that question would be the control freaks or feeble defenseless weaklings who depend on Government to wipe their butts. so take that as a HELL no
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The United States Constitution does not exist to grant you rights; those rights are inherent within you. Rather it exists to frame a limited government so that those natural rights can be exercised freely.
1984 was a warning, not a guidebook!
It's time more people spoke up with the truth. Every time we let a leftist lie go uncorrected, the commies get stronger.
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03-13-2020, 12:22 PM
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Who’s calling for martial law? Don’t give Trump the idea please...
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03-13-2020, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
Who’s calling for martial law? Don’t give Trump the idea please...
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“In this beautiful emergency is like to announce martial law and cancel elections this year until 2035.
Case closed. “
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03-13-2020, 02:19 PM
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Who’s calling for martial law? Don’t give Trump the idea please...
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Just a hypothetical question Jeff,sorry for the confusion.
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PRO CHOICE REPUBLICAN
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03-13-2020, 04:45 PM
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Is declaring a national emergency walking down that road...
Easy answer .. not for this virus at this time, but if descend into chaos we'll re visit
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04-06-2020, 01:56 PM
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Curfews and ankle bracelets enforced by the judiciary under the direction of Democratic governors.Welcome to the new liberal world.
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04-06-2020, 03:23 PM
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But that's ok with PaulS he'll take his in dark to match his tan.
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04-06-2020, 04:22 PM
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I think most of the people here laugh at the majority of the threads you try to start.
Sad.
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04-06-2020, 04:46 PM
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I think most of the people here laugh at the majority of the threads you try to start.
Sad.
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Not really because I post Truth.
The only thing sad is your undying devotion to stupidity and lies.
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04-06-2020, 04:47 PM
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Not really because I post Truth.
The only thing sad is your undying devotion to stupidity and lies.
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I’m laughing.
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04-06-2020, 04:55 PM
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I’m laughing.
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I usually laugh at all of his posts here.
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04-06-2020, 05:40 PM
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Look at Hungary and Orban if you want to worry about someone seizing control of a now former democracy.
I don’t see the parallels with the left, they have never been able to agree enough to develop that much power.
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04-06-2020, 05:46 PM
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I’m laughing.
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I would to.PaulS is a funny guy.
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04-06-2020, 05:49 PM
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I would to.PaulS is a funny guy.
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I don't know if you realize this when he quotes your post and says he's laughing that means he's laughing at you.
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04-06-2020, 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Look at Hungary and Orban if you want to worry about someone seizing control of a now former democracy.
I don’t see the parallels with the left, they have never been able to agree enough to develop that much power.
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I thought Orban was fulfilling the wishes of the majority of the Hungarian people. He was duly elected wasn't he? What is the undemocratic power that he has developed? Is hungry no longer a democracy?
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04-06-2020, 07:00 PM
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I thought Orban was fulfilling the wishes of the majority of the Hungarian people. He was duly elected wasn't he? What is the undemocratic power that he has developed? Is hungry no longer a democracy?
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No, it’s just Hungary first not rule by one man with no limits on power.
Peter Marki Zay was confused when he heard on Wednesday that he might be stripped of his executive authority as the mayor of Hodmezovasarhely, a city in south-eastern Hungary.
Local officials had earlier been told that to fight a rapidly spreading coronavirus pandemic, they should dispense with council meetings and make speedy decisions themselves. But then the nationalist government of prime minister Viktor Orban tabled a bill in parliament to subject every mayoral decision to review and approval by county panels, mostly appointees from the ruling Fidesz party.
To opposition politicians like Mr Marki Zay as well as civil rights campaigners and Mr Orban’s many critics across Europe, the move was proof that Hungary’s self-styled “illiberal democrat” leader was using the cover of a public health crisis to stifle any remaining opposition to his rule rather than fight a health emergency.
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Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
Lets Go Darwin
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04-06-2020, 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
I thought Orban was fulfilling the wishes of the majority of the Hungarian people. He was duly elected wasn't he? What is the undemocratic power that he has developed? Is hungry no longer a democracy?
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You don’t think it is quite possible a democracy would duly elect an un democratic leader? Asking for a friend...
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12-20-2020, 02:16 PM
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I think Trump saw this thread
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12-22-2020, 05:32 PM
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Funny all the hell no’s Are now silent on the topic Since Trump lost the election their silence seems to be saying hell yes .. because I am not seeing any follow ups hell no’s
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12-22-2020, 09:58 PM
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Funny all the hell no’s Are now silent on the topic Since Trump lost the election their silence seems to be saying hell yes .. because I am not seeing any follow ups hell no’s
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not sure what the heck you are talking about but my answer has not changed in the least.
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The United States Constitution does not exist to grant you rights; those rights are inherent within you. Rather it exists to frame a limited government so that those natural rights can be exercised freely.
1984 was a warning, not a guidebook!
It's time more people spoke up with the truth. Every time we let a leftist lie go uncorrected, the commies get stronger.
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12-22-2020, 10:02 PM
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not sure what the heck you are talking about but my answer has not changed in the least.
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Nobody is.
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"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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12-23-2020, 10:55 AM
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The only people to answer yes to that question would be the control freaks or feeble defenseless weaklings who depend on Government to wipe their butts. so take that as a HELL no
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In reality, the only people to answer yes are Trump advisors and some of his sheep. It is unbelievably lucky that our system is strong. If he were in power in under different circumstances, these would be likely be some of the darkest days of modern history. He is how fascism comes to exist.
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No, no, no. we’re 30… 30, three zero.
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12-23-2020, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by zimmy
If he were in power in under different circumstances, these would be likely be some of the darkest days of modern history. He is how fascism comes to exist.
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this is a little dramatic....
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12-23-2020, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by zimmy
In reality, the only people to answer yes are Trump advisors and some of his sheep. It is unbelievably lucky that our system is strong. If he were in power in under different circumstances, these would be likely be some of the darkest days of modern history. He is how fascism comes to exist.
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^^^^^^^
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12-23-2020, 07:22 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zimmy
In reality, the only people to answer yes are Trump advisors and some of his sheep. It is unbelievably lucky that our system is strong. If he were in power in under different circumstances, these would be likely be some of the darkest days of modern history. He is how fascism comes to exist.
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You got it half right. Or less.
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12-24-2020, 04:37 AM
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Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and strong regimentation of society and of the economy which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe.
if you replace "far right" and "ultranationalism"
who acts more like fascists...the democtats or republicans...the left or the right?
Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of modern leftist, authoritarian globalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and strong regimentation of society and of the economy which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe.
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12-24-2020, 07:08 AM
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I found some opinion that reinforces the Tweety is not a Facist theory
1: The economy.
Fascist regimes grew in a world with limited international trade and with a capitalism that many viewed as moribund, which gave national governments enormous leeway to shape economies with everything from state-led industrialization projects to the Mefo bills that helped to fund the rearmament program of the Nazis. Today we live in a world of global capitalism for better or worse, and international trade is deeply ingrained into our economies. Trump tried to tweak the rules of the global economy here and there, but there was no push for the autarky model so dear to the heart of many Fascists. As a result, the fundamentals of the U.S. economy remain unchanged. When economic historians come to assess Trump’s impact, they will talk about the loss of fiscal revenue, the costs of his trade wars for U.S. consumers, and the pandemic and otherwise conclude that it did not make much of a difference.
2: The threat to capitalism (or lack thereof).
Fascism grew against the backdrop of Bolshevism and the perceived threat of a communist revolution. Scholars have shown for numerous countries that the threat was often exaggerated – but it did exist and genuinely scared the bourgeoisie. But that fear subsided in the decades after World War Two, which saw the golden years of Western capitalism. People enjoyed the fruits of mass consumption while things went downhill for socialism: it gradually lost its shine, its legitimacy, and its hold on power, and no Western country seriously considered going socialist over the last 30 years. During the interwar years, Fascist and other governments had to reckon with a Soviet Union that spread its tentacles around the world, but that Soviet Union is no more since 1991, and there is nothing that can take its place. Venezuela and Cuba will not bring global capitalism down.
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12-24-2020, 07:10 AM
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3: Demography.
Trump thrived on the grievances in a white population that faces demographic marginalization in an increasingly multicultural society, which is unlike anything that underpinned Fascist societies. Hitler never feared demographic marginalization from Germany’s Jews because they accounted for less than one percent of the population. Trump’s hardline immigration policy was the exact opposite of the policy of Fascist Italy, which sought to curb outward migration of Italians to the Americas. To be sure, Trump’s immigration crackdown is open to criticism on several grounds, but it’s really small change compared to the Nuremberg Laws.
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