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Old 04-23-2021, 07:09 PM   #1
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Loury & McWhorter--the slippery road to Hell

Glen Loury & John McWhorter, renowned Black intellectuals discuss the danger of racializing crime. This was published just before the Chauvin verdict. The video lasts an hour, but it should be seen by both black and white Americans. It builds up in intensity, and the passion, sincerity, and logic interspersed with facts is totally grounded in a logical perspective on, as Loury put it, "the slippery road to Hell.". Pleas watch the whole thing.

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Only ten minutes. Spot on.

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Hey Pete F, are these guys frauds?

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Old 07-14-2021, 08:19 PM   #8
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Who pays them

You are so easily led

1. In 2020, Critical Race Theory was an obscure academic theory

In 2021, a chorus of voices claims CRT an existential threat to the country

Who is financing this effort?

We've identified an obscure foundation funding at least 21 groups attacking CRT
2. Non-profits and media orgs promoting anti-CRT hysteria keep their funding SECRET

Private foundations, however, have to disclose their spending to the IRS

Looking at this data, one group kept appearing again and again: The Thomas W. Smith Foundation
3. Who is Thomas W. Smith? He runs a hedge fund out of Boca Raton Florida and keeps a low profile

His foundation has no website, but is run by James Piereson, a fellow at the Manhattan Institute

Piereson is prolific and provides insight into what motives the foundation's giving
4. Piereson opposes all efforts to address economic or racial inequality -- even those undertaken by private charities.

He wrote about this in a series of columns published in 2019.

5. Piereson also opposes classes dedicated to the study of women, Black people, or the LGBTQ community in universities, saying these topics lack "academic rigor."
6. Piereson claims that "racial bigotry and violence against women" is not a big problem on college campuses, calling concern about such issues "irrational."

This is the person who is funding a constellation of groups attacking CRT
7. It would be hard for Piereson and the Thomas W. Smith foundation to generate excitement around tired arguments opposing diversity and racial equality.

It's easier to advocate against CRT, a term that sounds scary but no one really understands.
8. A popular.info investigation found that between 2017 and 2019, the Thomas W. Smith foundation donated $12.75 million to at least 21 organizations attacking CRT.

(The foundation's 2020 spending won't be available until later this year.)
9. The top recipient of money from the Thomas W. Smith Foundation is the Manhattan Institute.

It received $4.32 million from 2017 to 2019.

It employs Chris Rufo, who is the leading source of misinfo on CRT

Smith sits on the Manhattan Institute board
10. Other major recipients of money from the Charles W. Smith Foundation include The Heritage Foundation (525K), ALEC (425K), and the State Policy Network (3.57M), three organizations behind the flood of state legislation to ban CRT
11. The Thomas W Smith Foundation is also funding numerous media orgs that are producing an avalanche of anti-CRT columns & "reporting"

@DailyCaller (100K)
@FDRLST (100K)
@NRO (45K)
@prageru (100K)
@RealClearPR (200K)
@amspectator (210K)
@amconmag (100K)
12. The actual spending by the Thomas W. Smith foundation on anti-CRT efforts is likely much higher since we don't have 2020 spending and many of the groups set up specifically to attack CRT were not created until 2020
13. Popular.info will continue to peel back the onion and keep you informed.

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Old 07-14-2021, 09:46 PM   #9
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Who pays them

You are so easily led

1. In 2020, Critical Race Theory was an obscure academic theory

In 2021, a chorus of voices claims CRT an existential threat to the country

Who is financing this effort?

We've identified an obscure foundation funding at least 21 groups attacking CRT
2. Non-profits and media orgs promoting anti-CRT hysteria keep their funding SECRET

Private foundations, however, have to disclose their spending to the IRS

Looking at this data, one group kept appearing again and again: The Thomas W. Smith Foundation
3. Who is Thomas W. Smith? He runs a hedge fund out of Boca Raton Florida and keeps a low profile

His foundation has no website, but is run by James Piereson, a fellow at the Manhattan Institute

Piereson is prolific and provides insight into what motives the foundation's giving
4. Piereson opposes all efforts to address economic or racial inequality -- even those undertaken by private charities.

He wrote about this in a series of columns published in 2019.

5. Piereson also opposes classes dedicated to the study of women, Black people, or the LGBTQ community in universities, saying these topics lack "academic rigor."
6. Piereson claims that "racial bigotry and violence against women" is not a big problem on college campuses, calling concern about such issues "irrational."

This is the person who is funding a constellation of groups attacking CRT
7. It would be hard for Piereson and the Thomas W. Smith foundation to generate excitement around tired arguments opposing diversity and racial equality.

It's easier to advocate against CRT, a term that sounds scary but no one really understands.
8. A popular.info investigation found that between 2017 and 2019, the Thomas W. Smith foundation donated $12.75 million to at least 21 organizations attacking CRT.

(The foundation's 2020 spending won't be available until later this year.)
9. The top recipient of money from the Thomas W. Smith Foundation is the Manhattan Institute.

It received $4.32 million from 2017 to 2019.

It employs Chris Rufo, who is the leading source of misinfo on CRT

Smith sits on the Manhattan Institute board
10. Other major recipients of money from the Charles W. Smith Foundation include The Heritage Foundation (525K), ALEC (425K), and the State Policy Network (3.57M), three organizations behind the flood of state legislation to ban CRT
11. The Thomas W Smith Foundation is also funding numerous media orgs that are producing an avalanche of anti-CRT columns & "reporting"

@DailyCaller (100K)
@FDRLST (100K)
@NRO (45K)
@prageru (100K)
@RealClearPR (200K)
@amspectator (210K)
@amconmag (100K)
12. The actual spending by the Thomas W. Smith foundation on anti-CRT efforts is likely much higher since we don't have 2020 spending and many of the groups set up specifically to attack CRT were not created until 2020
13. Popular.info will continue to peel back the onion and keep you informed.

We always follow the money.

For updates and accountability journalism, sign up
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In the fake news thread, you had this same usual type of inconclusive but suggestive, insinuative, implicating attempt to discredit rather than prove or provide direct evidence. It is not a support of CRT nor credible invalidation of those who see CRT as a threat.

And it is even less so here. Loury and McWhorter are not on the list of those being funded by the Smith Foundation. They are doing very well firstly in there academic professorships, the various speeches and roundtables they do and articles and books they write and their various blogs. Have you "followed the money" of all that since you always follow the money? It is slimey (not unusual for you) to imply that they are merely following filthy lucre rather than honestly trying to address in their videos what is harming and holding back Black people.

You said that those I cite turn out to be frauds. I asked if Loury and McWhorter, according to you, are frauds. It is contemptable that, without a smidgen of evidence, you try to make it seem they are.

You say I am so easily led. That's a Trumpian lie. But it seems that you easily and often spout faked up opinions.
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Old 07-15-2021, 03:13 PM   #10
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Critical Race Theory is the latest Bogeyman in a long line, as usual be very afraid.

In the 1960s and 70s, conservatives were waging a war against what they considered an existential threat infiltrating America’s public schools. Pamphlets were circulated by the John Birch Society, a right-wing extremist group, declaring it a “filthy Communist plot.” And then-Governor Ronald Reagan of California decried it as a “moral crisis” that needed to be eradicated. What was poisoning the minds of America’s youth? Sex education.

These days, sex ed is more widely accepted, especially following the HIV/AIDS epidemic (though conservatives have still managed to beat back more progressive school curricula when it comes to sexual health), but the Republican Party’s habit of identifying a bogeyman in America’s education system hasn’t wavered.

Then it was sex ed. Now, it’s critical race theory.

Critical race theory is a legal scholarship framework that has been around in academia for four decades and asserts that racism is systemic and embedded in many American institutions. But over the past few months, the term has been co-opted by Republicans as a catch-all buzzword to signify the perceived threat of anti-white indoctrination in American schools. This has motivated a slate of proposed legislation outlawing a wide range of teachings. Since the start of this year, at least six states have enacted bans on the teaching of critical race theory or discussions of racism in the classrooms, according to a Brookings Institute analysis, while almost 20 other states have introduced similar bills. Moreover, a handful of states, like Florida and Texas, have also successfully banned the teaching of the New York Times’s 1619 Project curriculum, which explores the central role of slavery in the development of the U.S. The project has been harshly criticized by conservatives who have accused its writers of recasting history through a racial lens. To be sure, the bills vary. Some bills mention critical race theory directly, while others only reference bans on “divisive concepts” or any teachings that imply “one race or sex is inherently superior.” But this concerted effort to limit what can be taught in our schools isn’t new — it’s the latest chapter in the GOP’s long-standing push to target curricula that goes against its political ideology.

Republican attacks on cultural issues within America’s public schools follow a familiar pattern. First, they’re usually in response to a vague idea of what might happen — that is, teaching sexual health might lead to more school-aged teenagers having sex (although there’s actually been a decline in the percentage of American high schoolers having sex since the early 1990s). Second, when there is a debate over teaching often taboo, complex social issues, like racism, evolution and sex, elected school board members can exert an outsized amount of control. Considering school board members are more likely to be white and are often partisan, Republicans’ political agenda can get a disproportionate amount of weight in school board decisions. And if the contemporary Republican Party has taught us anything as of late, it’s that “anti-wokeness” is political catnip for its base, so it’s unlikely that this crusade goes away any time soon. In fact, because critical race theory deals so explicitly with racism and discrimination, it has arguably animated the GOP base in a way that previous education battles haven’t.

One of the oldest education battles revolves around the teaching of evolution. It’s one that until recently didn’t have clearly drawn partisan lines. After all, the most famous example of a legislative attempt to prohibit teaching evolution in schools was actually introduced by a Democrat: a 1925 Tennessee state law to ban teaching evolution in schools. That law was later challenged in a showy court case (complete with chimpanzees) that same year, where it was upheld, and ultimately not repealed until 1967. (It was also a Democrat who introduced a 1981 bill in Louisiana’s state legislature that mandated the teaching of “creation science” — which presents religious beliefs as alternative scientific theories — whenever evolution was taught. The Supreme Court has since banned states from requiring creation science to be taught, but it has remained a popular conservative cultural flashpoint.)

In the last two decades, Republicans at the state level have introduced over 100 bills aimed at undermining evolution, through tactics such as allowing teachers to “question” established scientific concepts. Most of these bills never go anywhere — a 2016 study found just six anti-evolution bills out of 110 introduced between 2000 and 2012 were enacted into law — but the fact that legislatures keep proposing them means one of the U.S. public education system’s oldest bogeyman is still alive and well.

Similarly, sex education in public schools has long been a target of Republicans, although once it became clear that sex education programs actually help reduce the risk of teen pregnancy and STIs and delay the age when teens become sexually active, sex ed became more socially accepted. This means that Republicans opposed to sex ed have had to change their strategy to curtailing what’s taught. Sixteen states, for instance, require educators to “stress” abstinence education and do not require anything be taught about contraception, according to the Guttmacher Institute, a research organization that advances sexual and reproductive health and rights.1 Another popular strategy is giving parents the right to opt their child out of sex ed, or making sex ed opt-in to begin with.

And more recently, beginning in the late 2000s, a culture war clash emerged following the adoption of the Common Core State Standards Initiative — a set of K-12 academic standards that was aggressively pushed by the federal government. While the initiative was designed to promote a good education by giving students specific guidelines about what they should know, grade by grade, in subjects like math and English language arts, it faced fierce opposition from Republicans and Democrats alike.

But around 2015, the Core standards became especially politicized by politicians on the right who thought curriculum standards should be left to local officials. For instance, when Donald Trump ran for the White House in 2016, his early ads argued that “education has to be at a local level.” And in 2018, Trump’s former Secretary of Education Betsy DeVos falsely declared the Common Core was “dead” — even though it’s up to individual states, and not the federal government, whether to ditch the Core standards.2
It’s clear culture war issues have always had a place in how Republicans think about education, but as Terry Moe, a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution, a conservative think tank, told us, Republicans also used to advocate for more policy-focused solutions. He pointed to Republican-led initiatives like the No Child Left Behind Act, which, in part, sought to use standardized testing to help improve student achievement. These kinds of initiatives have since received their own criticism, but they represent a very different strategy than the one that currently dominates the Republican Party.

“The Republican Party has really gotten further and further away from being a party of ideas about how to solve social problems — one of them being an education system that does not perform very well — and becoming a party of anger and resentment. That’s what they specialize in now,” Moe said. “They are, for the most part, fighting a culture war against the Democrats and trying to pander to their base.”

In that sense, critical race theory fits perfectly into the Republicans’ agenda, as it’s a cultural bugbear that conservatives have co-opted to encompass a range of trends they think are unpopular with Americans. (One of the lead architects pushing the anti-critical race theory backlash, Christopher Rufo, a senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute, a conservative think tank, has said as much.) This is particularly true for topics centered specifically around race.

“They’re worried about what happens when a reckoning takes hold in their kids’ schools where their kids might learn some things about American history — or about themselves or people like them — that are uncomfortable truths,” said Hakeem Jefferson, a FiveThirtyEight contributor and professor of political science at Stanford University. “This is merely another example of white Americans using schools as sites of their racial political projects, which set out to maintain dominance and do so by way of not telling the full truth of American history.”

Many Americans still don’t know what the debate over critical race theory is really about at this point. Just 24 percent have heard “a lot” about it, 25 percent know “some” and 51 percent know little or nothing at all, according to a June Morning Consult/Politico poll. But tellingly, Republicans were more likely than Democrats to have seen, heard or read a lot about critical race theory, 30 percent versus 21 percent. What’s more, those Republicans familiar with critical race theory overwhelmingly dislike it — 78 percent have a negative opinion of it compared to 7 percent of Democrats. When asked to describe critical race theory in that same survey, one Republican respondent called critical race theory “a farce,” while another said it was a “Marxist proposal.”

Considering how much more exposure Republicans have had to it — a Media Matters analysis shows Fox News has mentioned critical race theory 1,300 times in less than four months, and a query of data on the social media tool CrowdTangle from researchers at Miami University and Wright State University found that the share of posts that mention critical race theory on the Facebook pages of local Republican parties has risen exponentially — the blowback among members of the GOP is not entirely surprising. It’s also not just the volume of coverage: The conservative media’s coverage of critical race theory is overwhelmingly negative, too, as it’s decried by some on the right as anti-white.

Republicans have long fought specters within education that they claim threaten the American way of life. The current blowback against critical race theory follows in that tradition, but it also represents a broader transformation of the GOP into a populist party focused on waging culture wars. Though it may seem like a misguided crusade-du-jour, the tumult around critical race theory is both a reflection of the Republican Party’s past — and a glimpse at its future.

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Old 07-15-2021, 04:15 PM   #11
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Critical Race Theory is the latest Bogeyman in a long line, as usual be very afraid.
The lengthy diatribe you posted (is it some article you read without attributing its authorship) doesn't actually discuss Critical Race Theory. The only thing it says about it is this one sentence: "Critical race theory is a legal scholarship framework that has been around in academia for four decades and asserts that racism is systemic and embedded in many American institutions." No details are given.

The devil is in the details. Those who oppose it, cite various details within the "legal scholarship framework." Some of those details are mentioned by critics and are not rebutted or explained in a positive light by supporters, at least not on this forum. From what has been said by critics of it is that whites are inherently racist by virtue of their whiteness. And there is nothing that can actually be done to eliminate that inherent racism. At best, all that can be done is to teach whites that is who they are. Presumably, that may woke whites into behaving better. No other races seem to have this inherent racism.

Critics also say that CRT essentializes race. Makes it essential to understanding the fundamental nature of western civilization (that is "white" civilization). And that all the various values of that civilization are "white" therefor racist. Like personal responsibility for example. And all the other values that have been taught and handed down for generations.

This may all be an unfair characterization of CRT. But an actual discussion of its details might straighten that out. Your diatribe doesn't do that. It just points out what it considers conservative-right wing-Republican backwardness that has opposed a priori good Progressive education policies. And by throwing it into the anti right wing diatribe, with one uninformative sentence, it is therefor considered, by your author, to be a good Progressive education policy.

Even good and essential enough that government workers should also be trained in it.

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It's true. In Pre-K, critical race theory—a method of legal scholarship—is taught right after they read Rawls' "A Theory of Justice" and right before they apply the Coase theorem to tort law.
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It's true. In Pre-K, critical race theory—a method of legal scholarship—is taught right after they read Rawls' "A Theory of Justice" and right before they apply the Coase theorem to tort law.
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Good to know.
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Wonder what Critical Race Theorists think about this:

Wohttps://&t=317snder what Critical Race Theorists think about this.
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What's your point, did you find another outlier to cite as the norm?

Several thousand Black men were enlisted to fight for the Confederates, but they could not begin to balance out the nearly 200,000 Black soldiers who fought for the Union.

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What's your point, did you find another outlier to cite as the norm?
Are only whites with their socially constructed "whiteness" and their "white privilege" the only race that is racist? Is racism only an inherited white thing?
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What country are you speaking of, Most of Europe banned the importation of indigenous peoples in the 1600s
It continued in parts of the world including the USA for a long time after that.
Why do you feel guilty and need to minimize that history?

Are you proposing slavery as an alternative to welfare?
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What country are you speaking of, Most of Europe banned the importation of indigenous peoples in the 1600s
It continued in parts of the world including the USA for a long time after that.
Why do you feel guilty and need to minimize that history?

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I wasn't speaking about a country. I wonder what Critical Race Theorists think about this massive number of worldwide racists who are not part of "whiteness." Do they consider the racial discrimination by Asians in Asia and Africans (including black Africans) in Africa to not be actual racism?
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Last I knew the USA was not in Asia or Africa.
Are you suggesting we need to police the world or just make sure everyone is as woke about this as you?
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Last I knew the USA was not in Asia or Africa.
Are you suggesting we need to police the world or just make sure everyone is as woke about this as you?
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We have Asians and Blacks in this country. "White supremacy, white privilege, whiteness" are not holding the East Asians here back, nor holding back many and growing number of blacks. And a whole lot of whites are not privileged, and whites have created policies that privilege Blacks over whites. And the notion that whites and only whites are inherently and irrevocably racist seems weird to me--maybe another definition of racism to add on to all the new ones. Nor does that idea hold up when considering all the people of the world. And if you're implying that only the whites in the US possess this inherently racist "whiteness," that also seems weird.

You constantly bring to our attention various social and political issues, especially if they throw shade on Trump or republicans. Are you the only one allowed to create a discussion on political topics of the day?

But since you say the current Critical Race issue is all about nothing new or disturbing, you must think you're more woke than I am. Are you just making sure everyone is as woke about it as you?
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