Staggering COVID-19 Statistic: 98% to 99% of Americans Dying are Unvaccinated

[PaulS]

I'm starting to rethink my support of the vaccines as I just heard Senator Johnson say there's athletes who have been just dropping dead on the field from the vaccine
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[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by PaulS

I'm starting to rethink my support of the vaccines as I just heard Senator Johnson say there's athletes who have been just dropping dead on the field from the vaccine
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What another vaccine conspiracy theory, it’s getting hard to understand where these idiots get their news.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

What another vaccine conspiracy theory

should get the vax nazis all fired up

[scottw]

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hard to understand where these idiots get their news.

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probably from "science"...

January 5, 2022

CDC Expands Booster Shot Eligibility and Strengthens Recommendations for 12-17 Year Olds

Today, CDC is endorsing the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices’ (ACIP) recommendation to expand eligibility of booster doses to those 12 to 15 years old. CDC now recommends that adolescents age 12 to 17 years old should receive a booster shot 5 months after their initial Pfizer-BioNTech vaccination series.




January 19, 2022

WHO says no evidence healthy children, adolescents need COVID-19 boosters

(Reuters) - There is no evidence at present that healthy children and adolescents need booster doses of COVID-19 vaccine, the World Health Organization's chief scientist Soumya Swaminathan said on Tuesday.Reuters

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by scottw

probably from "science"...

January 5, 2022

CDC Expands Booster Shot Eligibility and Strengthens Recommendations for 12-17 Year Olds

Today, CDC is endorsing the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices’ (ACIP) recommendation to expand eligibility of booster doses to those 12 to 15 years old. CDC now recommends that adolescents age 12 to 17 years old should receive a booster shot 5 months after their initial Pfizer-BioNTech vaccination series.




January 19, 2022

WHO says no evidence healthy children, adolescents need COVID-19 boosters

(Reuters) - There is no evidence at present that healthy children and adolescents need booster doses of COVID-19 vaccine, the World Health Organization's chief scientist Soumya Swaminathan said on Tuesday.Reuters

Funny when Trump was in office the WHO was vilified and attacked by his administration and his supporters over Covid

cannot allow American taxpayer dollars to continue to finance an organization that, in its present state, is so clearly not serving America’s interests,

Kayleigh McEnany said: “The WHO appears to clearly have a China bias”.


And now Scott uses them as evidence that our CDC is the enemy
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by wdmso

And now Scott uses them as evidence that our CDC is the enemy

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I didn't pick sides, just pointed out the apparently unsettled science

[Got Stripers]

Somebodies foil hat loose it’s grip?

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

Somebodies foil hat loose it’s grip?

*Lose
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[Slipknot]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

Somebodies foil hat loose it’s grip?

Keep outing yourself as a sheep and stick your head in the sand like a large bird

Haven’t you noticed the many so called conspiracy theories that have become truth eventually? If not, I suggest you begin to question your sources and open your closed mind.
Enjoy your Totalitarianism
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[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Slipknot

Keep outing yourself as a sheep and stick your head in the sand like a large bird

Haven’t you noticed the many so called conspiracy theories that have become truth eventually? If not, I suggest you begin to question your sources and open your closed mind.
Enjoy your Totalitarianism
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You're the crybaby who is always worried that someone is going to take your freedoms away so you sit around stroking your gun but calling people sheep.

Go away Bruce - you don't add anything to this forum.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

You're the crybaby who is always worried that someone is going to take your freedoms away so you sit around stroking your gun but calling people sheep.

Go away Bruce - you don't add anything to this forum.

but you’re not angry.

you’re right, not many of us can contribute information as useful and absolutely crucial as the Missouri state legislature having members being impolite to each other. i mean, how can we function without that information?

let’s all step aside and make room for you.

call him a retard next, to show us how angry everyone is except you.
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[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

but you’re not angry.

you’re right, not many of us can contribute information as useful and absolutely crucial as the Missouri state legislature having members being impolite to each other. i mean, how can we function without that information?

let’s all step aside and make room for you.

call him a retard next, to show us how angry everyone is except you.
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I only use that word to point out the hypocrisy of all the Rs who laughed at Trump mocking a handicapped reporter. I guess I have the handicapped back while the Rs have no problem w/Trump mocking the guy.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Go away Bruce - you don't add anything to this forum.

don't overestimate your contributions

[The Dad Fisherman]

The words “classy” and “smarmy” come to mind
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

The words “classy” and “smarmy” come to mind
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and "snarky"

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

The words “classy” and “smarmy” come to mind
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paul says it’s paranoid to talk about lost freedoms.

Meanwhile, how many small businesses were lost during government mandates lockdowns, which John’s Hopkins said were useless? Tell the people
who lost their businesses and now have to work at walmart, that no one is having anything taken from them.

but paul knows better than John’s Hopkins, he disagrees with their study and says the lockdowns helped. of course he didn’t share on what basis he concluded John’s Hopkins was wrong.

Tell the. bridgman bakers who jet forces out of business for not agreeing to abandon their religion, that nothing can ever be taken away.

Tell the charred children from Waco, or the corpses at Ruby Ridge.

The governments not out to get us. But there are tyrants out there.
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[PaulS]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

The words “classy” and “smarmy” come to mind
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Figured you would point out a typo.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Figured you would point out a typo.

I’m not the one applying the grease paint pretty heavy today.

Quick with edit today too…..

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[PaulS]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

I’m not the one applying the grease paint pretty heavy today.
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But you never say ANYTHING constructive other to point out typos or to mock certain people's posts.

So you don't add anything worthwhile.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by PaulS

But you never say ANYTHING constructive other to point out typos or to mock certain people's posts.

So you don't add anything worthwhile.

I know, because this forum is just the epitome of rational conversation and constructive dialog
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by PaulS

But you never say ANYTHING constructive other to point out typos or to mock certain people's posts.

So you don't add anything worthwhile.

don't wear your skinny jeans to Missouri...they will mock you

[Slipknot]

https://covid19updates.org/cdc-natur...ng-delta-wave/
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So they admit natural immunity is better yet mandates fir vaccine is acceptable by some of you people, nice.
I have heard people are being denied medical treatment if they have no gotten the shots, what kind of world do we live in? That mentality is just plain evil.

I bring this stuff up to you guys because I care about all humans. Pay attention

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Slipknot

https://covid19updates.org/cdc-natur...ng-delta-wave/
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So they admit natural immunity is better yet mandates fir vaccine is acceptable by some of you people, nice.
I have heard people are being denied medical treatment if they have no gotten the shots, what kind of world do we live in? That mentality is just plain evil.

I bring this stuff up to you guys because I care about all humans. Pay attention

keep doing it and ignore the flak.

the entire media ignored John’s Hopkins study that lockdowns were useless, and they don’t want to talk about natural immunity.
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[Slipknot]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

keep doing it and ignore the flak.

the entire media ignored John’s Hopkins study that lockdowns were useless, and they don’t want to talk about natural immunity.
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correct Jim, and now the results show nothing gained from lockdowns, I do understand in the beginning 2 weeks were needed to keep hospitals from being inundated but we got past that. There should be no need to mandate vaccines to the point of people having to make a choice between earning a living wage or to risk the cure being worse than the disease. There are plenty of examples of people who got way sicker or died from getting the vaccines, if people like some on this site deny that then it is quite obvious who they listen to. How can anyone question why someone chooses not to get an experimental vaccine and not understand their trepidation?

as far as ignoring the flak, only way I see certain flak is when you quote him. been years since I listen to the spew from someone of that caliber pun intended

[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by Slipknot

correct Jim, and now the results show nothing gained from lockdowns, I do understand in the beginning 2 weeks were needed to keep hospitals from being inundated but we got past that. There should be no need to mandate vaccines to the point of people having to make a choice between earning a living wage or to risk the cure being worse than the disease. There are plenty of examples of people who got way sicker or died from getting the vaccines, if people like some on this site deny that then it is quite obvious who they listen to. How can anyone question why someone chooses not to get an experimental vaccine and not understand their trepidation?

as far as ignoring the flak, only way I see certain flak is when you quote him. been years since I listen to the spew from someone of that caliber pun intended

Really where do you get your facts? The vaccine is FDA approved, it’s far from some experimental drug and “plenty” of examples of people getting really sick and dying, the percentage of serious health issues or deaths from the vaccine is minuscule when you factor in the millions who have been vaccinated. Over 900,000 dead and that’s with the high vaccination numbers we have now, records indicate the unvaccinated are ten times likely to die of Covid. If we didn’t have the ability to come up with this vaccine, what death toll are you comfortable with to get to that herd immunity, would that be 1-2 million and how many much more deadly variants might have developed along the way?

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

Really where do you get your facts? The vaccine is FDA approved

"One of the most significant ways the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) regulates drug safety is through recalls. When an approved drug is later found to have significant health risks or potential for harm, the FDA is obligated to take action to protect public health. "

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

records indicate the unvaccinated are ten times likely to die of Covid.

this is a misleading statement...

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by Slipknot

https://covid19updates.org/cdc-natur...ng-delta-wave/
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So they admit natural immunity is better yet mandates fir vaccine is acceptable by some of you people, nice.
I have heard people are being denied medical treatment if they have no gotten the shots, what kind of world do we live in? That mentality is just plain evil.

I bring this stuff up to you guys because I care about all humans. Pay attention

Bruce, People have completely lost their minds over this. I have a friend who actually thinks it would be acceptable to turn someone away from an emergency room if they’re not vaccinated. My jaw hit the floor on that one.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Bruce, People have completely lost their minds over this. I have a friend who actually thinks it would be acceptable to turn someone away from an emergency room if they’re not vaccinated. My jaw hit the floor on that one.
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i’d be genuinely interested to hear your take on this.

i have a sister in law,,my brothers wife. for whatever reason, her immune system is vulnerable to covid.

She caught covid early on, head it bad, was in the hospital for 8 days. Not long after, they tested her for antibodies, she had none. Not a good sign.

She got her first vaccine dose, got very very sick, spent two days in the hospital. Again, they tested her after, she had no antibodies. Her body just doesn’t like to keep the antibodies. she was an ER nurse at Yale, she had to retire, was too dangerous, she was too vulnerable to covid and too likely to have a severe case if infected.

Couple of months ago, she caught covid again. They wanted her to get on a course of monoclonal antibodies, but none were available. Their entire stock was being dispensed to a couple dozen patients who were also very sick, and every single one of them was unvaccinated

She was again hospitalized for about a week, until monoclonal
antibodies were available. As soon a she’s started that treatment, she recovered very very quickly.

Now, if those patients all had gotten the vaccine, it’s virtually certain that some of them would not have required hospitalization, therefore there’d have been monoclonal antibodies available for my sister in law. she could have died while
waiting.

i would never ever say the unvaccinated don’t deserve medical treatment. But when i hear the unvaccinated say “ my choice is none of your business”, well, i think of my sister in law, and it’s pretty certain that their choice had a serious and negative impact on her.

anyway, you know that i consider you one of the fair and middle of the road guys here. i’d be curious to know what you think, and don’t worry about disagreeing with me, i have thick skin and i initiated this.
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[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

i’d be genuinely interested to hear your take on this.

i have a sister in law,,my brothers wife. for whatever reason, her immune system is vulnerable to covid.

She caught covid early on, head it bad, was in the hospital for 8 days. Not long after, they tested her for antibodies, she had none. Not a good sign.

She got her first vaccine dose, got very very sick, spent two days in the hospital. Again, they tested her after, she had no antibodies. Her body just doesn’t like to keep the antibodies. she was an ER nurse at Yale, she had to retire, was too dangerous, she was too vulnerable to covid and too likely to have a severe case if infected.

Couple of months ago, she caught covid again. They wanted her to get on a course of monoclonal antibodies, but none were available. Their entire stock was being dispensed to a couple dozen patients who were also very sick, and every single one of them was unvaccinated

She was again hospitalized for about a week, until monoclonal
antibodies were available. As soon a she’s started that treatment, she recovered very very quickly.

Now, if those patients all had gotten the vaccine, it’s virtually certain that some of them would not have required hospitalization, therefore there’d have been monoclonal antibodies available for my sister in law. she could have died while
waiting.

i would never ever say the unvaccinated don’t deserve medical treatment. But when i hear the unvaccinated say “ my choice is none of your business”, well, i think of my sister in law, and it’s pretty certain that their choice had a serious and negative impact on her.

anyway, you know that i consider you one of the fair and middle of the road guys here. i’d be curious to know what you think, and don’t worry about disagreeing with me, i have thick skin and i initiated this.
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I would say the issue is that they need to work on increasing the availability of monoclonal antibodies.

My biggest concern on my buddy’s take is that I don’t want people making a judgement call, at the point of emergency, on whether you deserve to have your life saved because of your vaccine status.

You save their life, period, that’s your job in the ER. After that, then issues can be addressed.

The guy that can’t get the heart transplant because of his refusal to get vaccinated, I feel bad for him and his family, but it’s a stupid stand to take. There are all kinds of medical requirements for organ transplants, if being vaccinated is one of them, so be it.
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