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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

He’s polling miserably with independents. It’s not just the far right.
eople care more about $5 a gallon gas than they do about what happened on January 6.
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People care more about $5 a gallon gas than they do about what happened on January 6.

How sad is that!


They think One POTUS is responsible for price of gas

Yet they don’t care the last one Tried to steal the election

It Just shows How clueless the avg America actually are,, on how the world works.

American exceptionalism hard at work I guess
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

People care more about $5 a gallon gas than they do about what happened on January 6.

How sad is that!


They think One POTUS is responsible for price of gas

Yet they don’t care the last one Tried to steal the election

It Just shows How clueless the avg America actually are,, on how the world works.

American exceptionalism hard at work I guess
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you didn’t care when bush got blamed for the subprime mortgage crisis, guy didn’t care when trump got blamed for covid. So it’s ok when you do it. As always.

What’s good for the goose and all…

We
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[Raider Ronnie]

Originally Posted by wdmso

People care more about $5 a gallon gas than they do about what happened on January 6.

How sad is that!


They think One POTUS is responsible for price of gas

Yet they don’t care the last one Tried to steal the election

It Just shows How clueless the avg America actually are,, on how the world works.

American exceptionalism hard at work I guess
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The #^&#^&#^&#^&ing guy declared war on energy his 1st in office.
Do you deny that ???
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

if the price of gas was always a function of a cost of producing the gas, profits would be the same. But it’s not that simple, and you know that. there’s no law that says the price of a gallon of gas is always 10 cents more than the cost.

It’s a commodity, it’s heavily influenced by supply and demand, it’s heavily influenced by speculation.

In the US, demand is highest in summer, and there are concerns about supply because of the war in ukraine, and because the party running washington is openly hostile to fossil fuel.

when you have high demand happening at the same time as supply concerns, guess what happens to the price?
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What a surprise Jim swooping in to defend big business

No kidding Jim demand leads to higher prices the war in Ukraine all true but doesn’t explain record profits

then you just can’t stop adding your right wing lie the party running washington is openly hostile to fossil fuel.!!

This administration has done nothing to reduce the oil pumped in America. Production is the same as when Trump was in office

It’s just another disingenuous reason why fuel prices are up.. but not surprising coming from you and Republicans . Who offer no ideas or solutions.. just cliches
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

What a surprise Jim swooping in to defend big business

No kidding Jim demand leads to higher prices the war in Ukraine all true but doesn’t explain record profits

then you just can’t stop adding your right wing lie the party running washington is openly hostile to fossil fuel.!!

This administration has done nothing to reduce the oil pumped in America. Production is the same as when Trump was in office

It’s just another disingenuous reason why fuel prices are up.. but not surprising coming from you and Republicans . Who offer no ideas or solutions.. just cliches
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it’s a lie to say that democrats are hostile to fossil fuels?? no it’s not a lie. and america knows it.

the left decided to oppose fossil
fuels and go all in on green energy. If it had worked well, heys be heroes. But it failed horribly. They own it.

oil production is not the same. it’s down a little from 2019. it was trending up and up, then biden, who had to make promises to the progressive wing to get the nomination, won the election.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

No kidding Jim demand leads to higher prices the war in Ukraine all true but doesn’t explain record profits


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sorry buddy, if you sell a product, and that product is experiencing a spike in demand and concerns i. supply, the price will go up, and so will your profits.

it’s pretty simple.
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

it’s a lie to say that democrats are hostile to fossil fuels?? no it’s not a lie. and america knows it.

the left decided to oppose fossil
fuels and go all in on green energy. If it had worked well, heys be heroes. But it failed horribly. They own it.

oil production is not the same. it’s down a little from 2019. it was trending up and up, then biden, who had to make promises to the progressive wing to get the nomination, won the election.
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That is disinformation, pure and simple.

Oil production was trending up, oil prices down until someone interfered and it was long before Biden's administration.

How soon we forget what reduced US oil production to it's lowest point since Obama.

Oil-producing nations on Sunday agreed to the largest production cut ever negotiated, in an unprecedented coordinated effort by Russia, Saudi Arabia and the United States to stabilize oil prices and, indirectly, global financial markets.

Saudi Arabia and Russia typically take the lead in setting global production goals. But President Trump, facing a re-election campaign, a plunging economy and American oil companies struggling with collapsing prices, took the unusual step of getting involved after the two countries entered a price war a month ago. Mr. Trump had made an agreement a key priority.

It was unclear, however, whether the cuts would be enough to bolster prices. Before the coronavirus crisis, 100 million barrels of oil each day fueled global commerce, but demand is down about 35 percent. While significant, the cuts agreed to on Sunday still fall far short of what is needed to bring oil production in line with demand.

The plan by OPEC, Russia and other allied producers in a group known as OPEC Plus will slash 9.7 million barrels a day in May and June, or close to 10 percent of the world’s output.

Unfortunately restarting oil wells is not just like turning a tap. US production is particularly hard to restart, as is Russia's.
The oil supply and demand will take a while to reach an equilibrium.
But that wouldn't fit your Party line.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

That is disinformation, pure and simple.

Oil production was trending up, oil prices down until someone interfered and it was long before Biden's administration.

How soon we forget what reduced US oil production to it's lowest point since Obama.

Oil-producing nations on Sunday agreed to the largest production cut ever negotiated, in an unprecedented coordinated effort by Russia, Saudi Arabia and the United States to stabilize oil prices and, indirectly, global financial markets.

Saudi Arabia and Russia typically take the lead in setting global production goals. But President Trump, facing a re-election campaign, a plunging economy and American oil companies struggling with collapsing prices, took the unusual step of getting involved after the two countries entered a price war a month ago. Mr. Trump had made an agreement a key priority.

It was unclear, however, whether the cuts would be enough to bolster prices. Before the coronavirus crisis, 100 million barrels of oil each day fueled global commerce, but demand is down about 35 percent. While significant, the cuts agreed to on Sunday still fall far short of what is needed to bring oil production in line with demand.

The plan by OPEC, Russia and other allied producers in a group known as OPEC Plus will slash 9.7 million barrels a day in May and June, or close to 10 percent of the world’s output.

Unfortunately restarting oil wells is not just like turning a tap. US production is particularly hard to restart, as is Russia's.
The oil supply and demand will take a while to reach an equilibrium.
But that wouldn't fit your Party line.

US oil production peaked in 2018-2019. It was trending up. That upward trend is gone, now US production is lower than it was.

If we fully tapped into the natural resources we are blessed with, the Ukraine war could potentially have zero impact on US gas prices. We'd potentially control our own fate in that regard.

Yes it's all Trumps fault.

You make me really yearn for November Pete.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

US oil production peaked in 2018-2019. It was trending up. That upward trend is gone, now US production is lower than it was.

If we fully tapped into the natural resources we are blessed with, the Ukraine war could potentially have zero impact on US gas prices. We'd potentially control our own fate in that regard.

Yes it's all Trumps fault.

You make me really yearn for November Pete.

And somehow miraculously, Biden did that a year prior to the election.......

https://www.macrotrends.net/2562/us-...storical-chart

[wdmso]

If we fully tapped into the natural resources we are blessed with

We would be Russia and oil and gas production and price would be controlled by the Government .

Get Real Jim big oil has no desire to help Americans pay even a little less at the pump… and they refuse to pump more oil it’s called greed
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[Raider Ronnie]

Originally Posted by wdmso

If we fully tapped into the natural resources we are blessed with

We would be Russia and oil and gas production and price would be controlled by the Government .

Get Real Jim big oil has no desire to help Americans pay even a little less at the pump… and they refuse to pump more oil it’s called greed
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You should do some more research.
Refining is the issue.
They are not building more refineries & shutting some down because this socialist government is hell bent on green energy which is a bunch of bull.
Nothing green about lithium or electric energy.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

If we fully tapped into the natural resources we are blessed with

We would be Russia and oil and gas production and price would be controlled by the Government .

Get Real Jim big oil has no desire to help Americans pay even a little less at the pump… and they refuse to pump more oil it’s called greed
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why haven’t prices always been this high? have fun answering that.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

why haven’t prices always been this high? have fun answering that.
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I know it’s Not because there’s a shortage of oil or gasoline. In the states . I know it’s not due to a shortage of gas and oil leases I also know demand has increased since the vaccine went on line . But it hasn’t increased more than pre covid ..

And I know in April 2020, benchmark West Texas Intermediate crude prices actually fell below $0

and I know No single person, aka POTUS or even government controls gas prices. And
Diesel is the biggest reason for overall inflation

And if I recall I said something to the effect that if Russia invaded oil will be at 150 a barrel and it’s heading that way
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[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by wdmso

People care more about $5 a gallon gas than they do about what happened on January 6.

How sad is that!


They think One POTUS is responsible for price of gas

Yet they don’t care the last one Tried to steal the election

It Just shows How clueless the avg America actually are,, on how the world works.

American exceptionalism hard at work I guess
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People are more concerned about what affects their day to day lives, they care about $5 a gallon gas and 10%+ inflation driving up the cost of every single thing they do in their everyday lives. They care more about shortages of baby formula. They care more about trying to keep their small businesses open. They care more about finding out a common sense way to curb gun violence.

All of this is more important than politicizing what a few hundred knuckleheads did 18 months ago.

it just shows how clueless some folks are about the average American

Shocking

[Pete F.]

Weird that Fox News wouldn't cover the J6 hearing considering their viewers are the stars of the show.

Weirder that for the past year, they've accused antifa, BLM, false flag, tourists, FBI etc - you would think they'd want to expose that.

But just in time for the J6 hearings, the “largest-ever migrant caravan” appears.
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[wdmso]

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-61188579

Oil prices have soared. Why won't Opec bring them down?


Read the whole article Bidens not mentioned as the cause ?

But this was "When Russia invaded Ukraine, the price of crude soared"

Opec+ also has to respect Russia's wishes, since it is one of the two biggest partners in the alliance.

"The Russians are happy with prices at this level," says Carole Nakhle, CEO of Crystol Energy. "They have nothing to gain in seeing them go lower.

Not because their making money but because its causing discord in the US and the West

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

People are more concerned about what affects their day to day lives, they care about $5 a gallon gas and 10%+ inflation driving up the cost of every single thing they do in their everyday lives. They care more about shortages of baby formula. They care more about trying to keep their small businesses open. They care more about finding out a common sense way to curb gun violence.

All of this is more important than politicizing what a few hundred knuckleheads did 18 months ago.

it just shows how clueless some folks are about the average American

Shocking

All of this is more important than politicizing what a few hundred knuckleheads did 18 months ago.

you really refuse to see Jan 6th for what it was .. it's amazing to see the level of denial and rationalisation of the event and its players .

For Some Americans ? when the price of gas concerns them more than People trying to Steal American Democracy We have become a Country's of individuals


Classic:
the same people who claim it was a Just few hundred knuckleheads

Are the same people who think the Government controls the price of Oil control the production of baby formula , claim they care more about common sense gun laws

All while yelling less Government and demanding more Government in their next breath If National disaster impacts them or When they don't like the prices set by the private
sector

Yet these private companies and their lobbyist who have bought congress which has allowed them to set up Law in a manner that benefit them and their shareholder and not not the consumer

So let's use your baby formula outrage as an example

Yes, 4 companies control a majority of the infant formula industry in the US

Part of the reason why there is a baby formula shortage in the U.S. right now is because of how the industry is set up and regulated.

And don't forgot this reason

Joe Biden continues to put America LAST by shipping pallets of baby formula to the southern border as American families face empty shelves."
Claimed by: Elise Stefanik


And I bet Elise Stefanik the 3rd ranking republican in the House also thinks Jan 6th was what a few hundred knuckleheads also she's another one who has embraced lies and outrage equals Votes

Because her constituents would not know the truth if it walked up to them and slapped them in the Face ... They live in a reality fashioned for them By the GOP. modeled after what the Russians do to their people to keep them in Line

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by wdmso

All of this is more important than politicizing what a few hundred knuckleheads did 18 months ago.

you really refuse to see Jan 6th for what it was .. it's amazing to see the level of denial and rationalisation of the event and its players .

For Some Americans ? when the price of gas concerns them more than People trying to Steal American Democracy We have become a Country's of individuals

People care more about their wallets at the supermarket, not what failed to happen 18 months ago, that's the reality of it

Originally Posted by wdmso

Classic:
the same people who claim it was a Just few hundred knuckleheads

Are the same people who think the Government controls the price of Oil control the production of baby formula , claim they care more about common sense gun laws

Use the search feature and find a quote by me saying any of that

Originally Posted by wdmso

All while yelling less Government and demanding more Government in their next breath If National disaster impacts them or When they don't like the prices set by the private
sector

and I'd love for you to find a quote from me asking for MORE Government

Originally Posted by wdmso

Yet these private companies and their lobbyist who have bought congress which has allowed them to set up Law in a manner that benefit them and their shareholder and not not the consumer

Can you say "Term Limits"

Originally Posted by wdmso

So let's use your baby formula outrage as an example

I never said i was outraged, I said it was one of the things people are concerned with more that the events of 18 months ago. That's your problem, you read things that were never said and interpret them incorrectly

Originally Posted by wdmso

Yes, 4 companies control a majority of the infant formula industry in the US

Part of the reason why there is a baby formula shortage in the U.S. right now is because of how the industry is set up and regulated.

And don't forgot this reason

Sounds like too much Government

Originally Posted by wdmso

Joe Biden continues to put America LAST by shipping pallets of baby formula to the southern border as American families face empty shelves."
Claimed by: Elise Stefanik

Didn't vote for her, don't give a #^&#^&#^&#^& what kind delusional political crap she wants to spew

Originally Posted by wdmso

And I bet Elise Stefanik the 3rd ranking republican in the House also thinks Jan 6th was what a few hundred knuckleheads also she's another one who has embraced lies and outrage equals Votes

Because her constituents would not know the truth if it walked up to them and slapped them in the Face ... They live in a reality fashioned for them By the GOP. modeled after what the Russians do to their people to keep them in Line

Sorry, if it nudges your tinfoil hat out of alignment, a few hundred knuckleheads is how i see it.

[Got Stripers]

You beat me to responding to that dribble Wayne. To suggest all Americans are worried about those things and for that reason we should somehow just move on from the 6th is typical of anyone tuned into the Fox NOTNEWS network.

As an American I'm very concerned that a few knuckleheads in a position of power attempted to cancel out millions of votes and by their actions and prodding got two radical organizations coordinating their efforts to overrun the Capitol and assist in the coup. The walk back on the right from the day of is just remarkable, but not surprising as a lot are just an echo chamber of what Fox NOTNEWS network spits out.

The real news networks will run the coverage, so that everyone can make up their own minds on how to interpret the evidence they put in front of America. Fox NOTNEWS would never run it because it doesn't fit their walk back narrative, but I guarantee they will be guns ablaze after each evening in defense.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

As an American I'm very concerned that a few knuckleheads in a position of power attempted to cancel out millions of votes .

See, here's the problem with your statement there.

When Trump won in 2016, a small number of Congressional democrats (democrats in the house of representatives) did the same thing. They challenged the electoral results in states that Trump won, and even Joe Biden said at the time that they had absolutely zero reason to dispute anything. But they didn't like the outcome of the election, so they tried to overturn it. Biden, to his credit, told them to knock it off. Some of them are still in Congress.

And none of you cares. Not one of you has asked for them to be investigated or impeached.

So you only are concerned when Republicans do it. You're OK with it when democrats do it.

[Got Stripers]

Jim doing whataboutism that's a shocker......NOT

The Facts
In the 2016 presidential election, Trump won 304 electoral votes to Hillary Clinton's 227. During the joint session on January 6, 2017, seven House Democrats tried to object to electoral votes from multiple states.

According to a C-SPAN recording of the joint session that took place four years ago, the following House Democrats made objections:

Jim McGovern (D-Mass.) objected to Alabama's votes.
Jamie Raskin (D-Md.) objected to Florida's votes.
Pramila Jayapal (D-Wash.) objected to Georgia's votes.
Raul Grijalva (D-Ariz.) objected to North Carolina's votes.
Sheila Jackson Lee (D-Texas) objected to the votes from North Carolina in addition to votes from South Carolina and Wisconsin. She also stood up and objected citing "massive voter suppression" after Mississippi's votes were announced.
Barbara Lee (D-Calif.) brought up allegations of Russian interference in the election and malfunctioning voting machines when she objected following the announcement of Michigan's votes.
Maxine Waters (D-Calif) rose and said, "I do not wish to debate. I wish to ask 'Is there one United States senator who will join me in this letter of objection?'" after the announcement of Wyoming's votes.
For an objection to be considered, it must be submitted in writing and signed by a member of both the House and Senate. Because no senators signed onto the objections made by House Democrats in 2017, then-Vice President Biden by law denied all of the objections, repeatedly saying "there is no debate."

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

You beat me to responding to that dribble Wayne. To suggest all Americans are worried about those things and for that reason we should somehow just move on from the 6th is typical of anyone tuned into the Fox NOTNEWS network.

As an American I'm very concerned that a few knuckleheads in a position of power attempted to cancel out millions of votes and by their actions and prodding got two radical organizations coordinating their efforts to overrun the Capitol and assist in the coup. The walk back on the right from the day of is just remarkable, but not surprising as a lot are just an echo chamber of what Fox NOTNEWS network spits out.

The real news networks will run the coverage, so that everyone can make up their own minds on how to interpret the evidence they put in front of America. Fox NOTNEWS would never run it because it doesn't fit their walk back narrative, but I guarantee they will be guns ablaze after each evening in defense.

Never watched Fox News....ever.

[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Never watched Fox News....ever.

That's good, because even calling them NEWS is crazy.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

Jim doing whataboutism that's a shocker......NOT

The Facts
In the 2016 presidential election, Trump won 304 electoral votes to Hillary Clinton's 227. During the joint session on January 6, 2017, seven House Democrats tried to object to electoral votes from multiple states.

According to a C-SPAN recording of the joint session that took place four years ago, the following House Democrats made objections:

Jim McGovern (D-Mass.) objected to Alabama's votes.
Jamie Raskin (D-Md.) objected to Florida's votes.
Pramila Jayapal (D-Wash.) objected to Georgia's votes.
Raul Grijalva (D-Ariz.) objected to North Carolina's votes.
Sheila Jackson Lee (D-Texas) objected to the votes from North Carolina in addition to votes from South Carolina and Wisconsin. She also stood up and objected citing "massive voter suppression" after Mississippi's votes were announced.
Barbara Lee (D-Calif.) brought up allegations of Russian interference in the election and malfunctioning voting machines when she objected following the announcement of Michigan's votes.
Maxine Waters (D-Calif) rose and said, "I do not wish to debate. I wish to ask 'Is there one United States senator who will join me in this letter of objection?'" after the announcement of Wyoming's votes.
For an objection to be considered, it must be submitted in writing and signed by a member of both the House and Senate. Because no senators signed onto the objections made by House Democrats in 2017, then-Vice President Biden by law denied all of the objections, repeatedly saying "there is no debate."

I said ":a small number of Congressional democrats", and you basically provided support that I was right.

Every single time you guys get caught in naked hypocrisy, you try to dismiss it as "whataboutism".

Why was it OK what the democrats did, and not what happened on January 6?

Those congressional democrats you listed...did they, or did they not, try to un-do the results of an election they didn't happen to like?

you’ve all created a world where you can engage in as much hypocrisy as you can possibly cram into a day. And every time someone calls you out on it, you dismiss it as what about-ism.

That’s very very convenient for you all. And one reason why you’re about to get taken out to the woodshed in a few months.

[Got Stripers]

Jim can't your read, it wasn't put in writing, it went nowhere and NOBODY committed a felony. Let's see how that plays out for your red team, oh wait there already are convictions and it's only going to get worse.

[Jim in CT]

here’s a sincere question to the democrats…you’d prefer if the GOP nominee in 2024 is Desantis to Trump? If I was a democrat, i’d rather Trump be the nominee. But i’m guessing you’d all rather that Desantis be the nominee.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers;1it went n227670

Jim can't your read, it wasn't put in writing, owhere and NOBODY committed a felony. Let's see how that plays out for your red team, oh wait there already are convictions and it's only going to get worse.

"it wasn't put in writing"

So it's OK to act to overturn a free election, as long as you don't write anything down.

Can't argue with that...

"it went nowhere"

How far did the coup attempt on January 6th go? How close did they come? Did they get congress discussing it, like the democrats did it 2016? You're acting like Trump was just ready to get sworn in again, and at the last second Jack Bauer came on from a helicopter and put a stop to it with a kabar knife in his teeth.

"there already are convictions and it's only going to get worse"

I have no problem with convicting everyone who committed an actual crime. I apply that to the idiots on January 6th, , as well as BLM rioters, who got a pass for being FAR more violent than anything that happened on January 6th. Because as always, it's OK when liberals riot and burn. People couldn't go to church, but they could participate in BLM riots.

I can't wait to se how it plays out. Because no one will care come November if they're paying $6 a gallon for gas, and a used Toyota Corolla costs $30,000. and the stock market is down so parents can't afford tuition payments in the fall. If those things happen (likley), no one will give a darn about January 6th except radical, radical lefties who are deranged with TDS.

Come November, we'll see how many Americans care more January 6, we'll see whether you or I is the one way out of touch with regular Americans.

You guys, your obsession with Trump makes John Hinkley's feelings towards Jodie Foster look like a casual interest.

[Got Stripers]

I have no doubt November will be bad, it’s historically always payback time for either party. Biden probably will pay for #^&#^&#^&#^& he can’t control and yes to your question; love to see Trump get best twice.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

I have no doubt November will be bad, it’s historically always payback time for either party. Biden probably will pay for #^&#^&#^&#^& he can’t control and yes to your question; love to see Trump get best twice.
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Biden and Trump contributed heavily to inflation. they printed trillions and trillions.

When you drastically increase the supply of something, there’s a serious risk of decreasing the value of that something. Even if that something is money.

the fact that the lefts reapinsento spring gas prices is to buy electric cars, suggests they want soaring gas prices to get the green energy revolution they want. The fact that sea rent anywhere near ready for everyone to drive electric cars, doesn’t factor into it for some reason.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

I have no doubt November will be bad, it’s historically always payback time for either party. Biden probably will pay for #^&#^&#^&#^& he can’t control and yes to your question; love to see Trump get best twice.
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he also is responsible for appointing a treasury secretary who wouldn’t be able to get a job as a bank teller in the private sector.
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