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Old 06-17-2022, 06:39 PM   #211
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Murder rates are 40% higher in the 25 states that Trump won than the 25 states that Biden won.
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Old 06-17-2022, 07:44 PM   #212
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then there won’t be enough republican voters for the gop
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Old 06-18-2022, 03:59 AM   #213
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$20million guns sold In 2021.
On average $400-$700 for a hand gun.
That adds up to a whole lot of sales tax revenue for states with the exception of NH & a handful of other states that don’t have sales tax and the gang bangers who get their guns illegally.
Guns aren’t going anywhere !

Democrats in power are the greatest gun salesmen 👍
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Old 06-18-2022, 06:02 AM   #214
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$20million guns sold In 2021.
On average $400-$700 for a hand gun.
That adds up to a whole lot of sales tax revenue for states with the exception of NH & a handful of other states that don’t have sales tax and the gang bangers who get their guns illegally.
Guns aren’t going anywhere !

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No fear and tin foil hats drive gun sales . Gun owners prove it again again and again .. when ever a Dems in office
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X Uvalde officials are using a legal loophole to block the release of shooting records

The city and its police department are arguing against the release of the requested records, citing the following reasons: the city is being sued, some individuals' criminal history records could include "highly embarrassing information"; some of the information could reveal police "methods, techniques, and strategies for preventing and predicting crime," could cause "emotional/mental distress," "is not of legitimate concern to the public,

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Old 06-18-2022, 03:44 PM   #216
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X Uvalde officials are using a legal loophole to block the release of shooting records

The city and its police department are arguing against the release of the requested records, citing the following reasons: the city is being sued, some individuals' criminal history records could include "highly embarrassing information"; some of the information could reveal police "methods, techniques, and strategies for preventing and predicting crime," could cause "emotional/mental distress," "is not of legitimate concern to the public,

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the point being, you can’t always count on the government to protect you or your kids, therefore a compelling argument can be made to avail yourself of your second amendment rights.

your post could be a poster for the NRA.
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the point being, you can’t always count on the government to protect you or your kids, therefore a compelling argument can be made to avail yourself of your second amendment rights.

your post could be a poster for the NRA.
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Spoken like a true cult member!

not sure how you can twist what what I posted into this

"the point being, you can’t always count on the government to protect you or your kids"

and somehow twist into why we need the 2nd Amendment
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No fear and tin foil hats drive gun sales . Gun owners prove it again again and again .. when ever a Dems in office
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Whatever you say.
Fact is no way in hell any elected politician r or d would ever do away with a tax
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Old 06-18-2022, 04:16 PM   #219
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Spoken like a true cult member!

not sure how you can twist what what I posted into this

"the point being, you can’t always count on the government to protect you or your kids"

and somehow twist into why we need the 2nd Amendment
you made a case that we can’t count in the police. As is often the case, guy made the opposite argument of what you thought you were making.

You made a terrific pro 2A argument. Kudos.
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you made a case that we can’t count in the police. As is often the case, guy made the opposite argument of what you thought you were making.

You made a terrific pro 2A argument. Kudos.
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wow your imagination is running wild now its

"you made a case that we can’t count in the police."


Jim you are more and more detached from reality! it's more obvious by the day ..


you can't even read the actual Truth of why Texas refuses to release information to the Public and see it for what it is Stonewalling


Typical hypocrite conservative Claiming to support freedom and transparency ... only if that Transparency Benefits the GOP or conservativism like I have said freedom for Me not for thee the new MANTRA of the right
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Police officers never tried to open the door leading to two classrooms at Uvalde's Robb Elementary School during the 77-minute time period between when gunman Salvador Ramos, 18, got inside the room and killed 21 people and when officers got in and shot him, according to surveillance footage

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/uv...bb-elementary-
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Seems the Truth Has made the case that we can’t count in the police. At least in Uvalde
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McCraw testified during a Texas state senate hearing the door could not be locked from the inside, and there was no indication that officers even attempted to try to open the door ..
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Well-Regulated Militia Opens Fire On Fourth Of July Parade In Highland Park, Illinois; Cheap Thoughts And Useless Prayers Now Being Rushed To The Scene ... more on this soon-to-be-forgotten-and-then-repeated story as it develops ...

"We've really got to harden these parade routes. One entrance and exit per parade. Ballistic shields on every float and body armor for every baby."

Some politician, tomorrow

Reporter: Any idea how he got on to the roof?
“So the roof was a business and it looks like access to the roof via a ladder in an alley was unsecure.”

I think we can all agree, more ladder control will keep us safe.

Guns don’t kill people, ladders do.

This was a parade with tons of cops and firefighters, apparently non of the good guys with guns could do anything about it.

No other social problem is solved by more of the same. We don’t give alcoholics more booze. We don’t give drug addicts more drugs. Those who wish to quit smoking are not encouraged to smoke more. Yet Church of the NRA believers insist that we need MORE guns. Where’s the logic?
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Old 07-04-2022, 06:46 PM   #224
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Militia needs training, there just aren’t that many calendar days in a year you can practice on live targets, you never know when the red coats are coming. The pace is good, over 250 mass shooting this year, keep up the pace boys, you never know when that call to arms will come in.
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Good Job, Pete. Stunning. Left wing incel anarchist shoots up a 4th of July parade and you call it Well-Regulated Militia.

You will soon find that this kid:

Was a problem kid.
Couldn't adjust

Socialist.
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His family has gone thru rough times with the pandemic.

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He made his escape in a Honda Fit, so at least he was concerned about the environment
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Good Job, Pete. Stunning. Left wing incel anarchist shoots up a 4th of July parade and you call it Well-Regulated Militia.

You will soon find that this kid:

Was a problem kid.
Couldn't adjust

Socialist.
Hated everyone.
His family has gone thru rough times with the pandemic.
Bobby Crimo, aka Awake the Rapper, is the shooter responsible for the July 4 Highland Park Parade shooting.

He was a die-hard Trump supporter who released a QAnon-inspired song called “I Am The Storm.”

Has 47 tattooed on his face

As we see, he's apparently a proud Trump supporter, & was out exercising his conservative rights & spreading his conservative values this July 4th.
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Good Job, Pete. Stunning. Left wing incel anarchist shoots up a 4th of July parade and you call it Well-Regulated Militia.

You will soon find that this kid:

Was a problem kid.
Couldn't adjust

Socialist.
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His family has gone thru rough times with the pandemic.
And? Oh yeah everyone has easy access to high powered weapons.
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Bobby Crimo, aka Awake the Rapper, is the shooter responsible for the July 4 Highland Park Parade shooting.

He was a die-hard Trump supporter who released a QAnon-inspired song called “I Am The Storm.”

Has 47 tattooed on his face

As we see, he's apparently a proud Trump supporter, & was out exercising his conservative rights & spreading his conservative values this July 4th.
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He shot up a 4th of July Parade. What "Right Wing" person does that?

He wore a Where's Waldo outfit in front of a Trump Flag - not exactly a Venn Intersection of Trump supporters. He was there for the Memes.

His social media posts leaned into the left/anarchist realm, some leaned to the right. What we'll find out is a kid with mental illness problems that could not adjust to society.

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Darren Bailey, an Illinois state senator and the Republican nominee for governor, apologized Monday after saying that people should "move on" from the deadly Highland Park shooting earlier in the day.

Bailey spoke after a July Fourth parade in the town of Skokie was canceled in the wake of the shooting, which left at least six dead and injured at least 24 others.

"Let's pray for justice to prevail, and then let's move on and let's celebrate the independence of this nation," he said.

Bailey said in a statement released after his comments that he apologizes if he "diminished the pain" being felt across Illinois.
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Darren Bailey, an Illinois state senator and the Republican nominee for governor, apologized Monday after saying that people should "move on" from the deadly Highland Park shooting earlier in the day.

Bailey spoke after a July Fourth parade in the town of Skokie was canceled in the wake of the shooting, which left at least six dead and injured at least 24 others.

"Let's pray for justice to prevail, and then let's move on and let's celebrate the independence of this nation," he said.

Bailey said in a statement released after his comments that he apologizes if he "diminished the pain" being felt across Illinois.
But when Hilary says Republicans hate everybody, you defend her by saying "she apologized". So only democrats are let off the hook when they apologize?
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It’s about weapon availability

The rest is window dressings designed to muddy the water
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It's about your Constitutional Rights, exercising your Constitutional Rights, and the restrictions imposed on those rights. How do we effectively hamper only those that need restriction, rather than restricting everyone while only, maybe, occasionally, excepting need.

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That's not all it is, and I can prove it. Here goes...we all have access to that weaponry, but 99.5% of us would never even think of hurting anyone, no matter how many weapons are available. A big part of this, is that more and more of us are slipping into that mental abyss, and that abyss is getting darker and scarier all the time as our collective moral compass gets more and more broken.

You are correct, if there were zero guns out there, presumably there'd be zero gun crime. Problem is, there is no remotely practical way to eliminate gun availability which (1) is constitutional, and (2) is realistic to implement. I agree it's time to try things that haven't been tried before, but I don't believe gun control will move the needle much. It's been tried so many times. It never accomplishes much. What will be different this time? I do think we have to try just so we can tell our kids we didn't choose to do nothing, but I have no reason to believe it will work. None.

If there were no guns, there'd be no gun violence. At the same time, if there were no sociopaths walking among us, we could all have machine guns but there'd be no gun violence.

There are 2 levers to pull here, gun availability and the culture/mental illness aspect of our society. Both parties are guilty of focusing on one side and completely ignoring the other.
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It's about your Constitutional Rights, exercising your Constitutional Rights, and the restrictions imposed on those rights. How do we effectively hamper only those that need restriction, rather than restricting everyone while only, maybe, occasionally, excepting need.
That's completely, exactly correct.

"How do we effectively hamper only those that need restriction"

Answer - obviously, we can't. Not a chance.

If a democrat president can trample on constitutional rights because he feels morally justified in doing so, then a Republican president can do the same thing. And the people calling for Biden to be able to ignore parts of the constitution they don't happen to like, won't like it one bit if Trump declared he was doing the same thing.
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That's not all it is, and I can prove it. Here goes...we all have access to that weaponry, but 99.5% of us would never even think of hurting anyone, no matter how many weapons are available. A big part of this, is that more and more of us are slipping into that mental abyss, and that abyss is getting darker and scarier all the time as our collective moral compass gets more and more broken.

You are correct, if there were zero guns out there, presumably there'd be zero gun crime. Problem is, there is no remotely practical way to eliminate gun availability which (1) is constitutional, and (2) is realistic to implement. I agree it's time to try things that haven't been tried before, but I don't believe gun control will move the needle much. It's been tried so many times. It never accomplishes much. What will be different this time? I do think we have to try just so we can tell our kids we didn't choose to do nothing, but I have no reason to believe it will work. None.

If there were no guns, there'd be no gun violence. At the same time, if there were no sociopaths walking among us, we could all have machine guns but there'd be no gun violence.

There are 2 levers to pull here, gun availability and the culture/mental illness aspect of our society. Both parties are guilty of focusing on one side and completely ignoring the other.
OMG Jim is going to prove something else, thank god he is here to set the record straight on the pressing issues of our lives
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But when Hilary says Republicans hate everybody, you defend her by saying "she apologized". So only democrats are let off the hook when they apologize?
I'm pointing out a stupid comment while also showing he apologized -mostly for your benefit. You constantly point out Hillary's deplorable comment (which looking at the state of the Rep. party was true) while not giving her credit for apologizing.

70% of the Rep. party fails to recognize the legit Pres. election while calling people groomers, pedos, talking about doing away w/gay marriage, etc. Seems to me the Rep. party is the party of anger and hate.
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I'm pointing out a stupid comment while also showing he apologized -mostly for your benefit. You constantly point out Hillary's deplorable comment (which looking at the state of the Rep. party was true) while not giving her credit for apologizing.

70% of the Rep. party fails to recognize the legit Pres. election while calling people groomers, pedos, talking about doing away w/gay marriage, etc. Seems to me the Rep. party is the party of anger and hate.
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serving apologies by politicians, even in my party. It was a ghoulish comment and the jerk should go away.

if you think hilary was correct, you may really not like what happens in november.

just keep insulting the other side, all the polls show it’s working swell with independents.

democrats aren’t angry. right.
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if you think hilary was correct, you may really not like what happens in november. I won't like what most likely happens in Nov. but it will be mostly bc of inflation.

just keep insulting the other side, all the polls show it’s working swell with independents. Rich coming from you.

democrats aren’t angry. right.
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That's completely, exactly correct.

"How do we effectively hamper only those that need restriction"

Answer - obviously, we can't. Not a chance.
We MUST find a way. Problem is the effort to find a way isn't being made. SCOTUS even stated that there is no reason why 2A should not have the RIGHT as default, like other rights. Rather than being the only RIGHT which is hampered from outset.

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If a democrat president can trample on constitutional rights because he feels morally justified in doing so, then a Republican president can do the same thing. And the people calling for Biden to be able to ignore parts of the constitution they don't happen to like, won't like it one bit if Trump declared he was doing the same thing.
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