More red state Idiocy

[wdmso]

HIV at center of latest culture war after Tennessee rejects federal funds
The tensions in Tennessee began in the fall, when Republican Gov. Bill Lee voiced disapproval of two HIV grant recipients spotlighted in conservative media — a task force on transgender health issues and Planned Parenthood. The conflict escalated late last week when the state announced that after May 31, it would no longer accept any money from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention for testing, prevention and surveillance of HIV.

State officials said they would continue to support HIV testing and prevention but would focus on first responders, victims of human trafficking and mothers and children. In contrast, the federal program prioritizes men who have sex with men and transgender people, particularly in communities of color, who are at greatest risk of HIV, according to federal surveillance data.

“It’s pretty hard not to think that part of the motivation is to restrict funding to groups we don’t like and don’t want to support,” said Wayne Smith, who runs a faith-based HIV prevention program in Knoxville that will lose about $10,000 for
testing each year.

In Texas, religious employers brought a suit arguing they shouldn’t have to pay for HIV-prevention drugs that are mandated by the Affordable Care Act, and in September, a federal judge sided with them, citing the right to religious freedom.


One of those who sued the federal government is a Christian-operated corporation called Braidwood Management, which is owned by Texas Republican megadonor Steven Hotze. Hotze claimed the Affordable Care Act requirement that health plans cover PrEP would make his company, quote, "facilitate and encourage homosexual behavior." And so this federal judge in Texas, Reed O'Connor, sided with Hotze. In his ruling, the judge said that Hotze was able to prove that the PrEP mandate substantially burdens his religious freedoms.

this judge is on the dole

The Texas Attorney General's Office has made a habit of filing lawsuits against the federal government that land in O'Connor's court.

Since 2015, almost half of challenges to the federal government that Texas filed in district courts here landed in O’Connor’s courtroom, attorney general’s office records show.

One of America’s most partisan judges just gave Navy SEALs permission to defy a direct order

yep red state Judges just acting on the Law not how its written ... But by his religious views on the matter ... we see it all over the nation now GODs justifies more discrimination over Justice

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

HIV at center of latest culture war after Tennessee rejects federal funds
The tensions in Tennessee began in the fall, when Republican Gov. Bill Lee voiced disapproval of two HIV grant recipients spotlighted in conservative media — a task force on transgender health issues and Planned Parenthood. The conflict escalated late last week when the state announced that after May 31, it would no longer accept any money from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention for testing, prevention and surveillance of HIV.

State officials said they would continue to support HIV testing and prevention but would focus on first responders, victims of human trafficking and mothers and children. In contrast, the federal program prioritizes men who have sex with men and transgender people, particularly in communities of color, who are at greatest risk of HIV, according to federal surveillance data.

“It’s pretty hard not to think that part of the motivation is to restrict funding to groups we don’t like and don’t want to support,” said Wayne Smith, who runs a faith-based HIV prevention program in Knoxville that will lose about $10,000 for
testing each year.

In Texas, religious employers brought a suit arguing they shouldn’t have to pay for HIV-prevention drugs that are mandated by the Affordable Care Act, and in September, a federal judge sided with them, citing the right to religious freedom.


One of those who sued the federal government is a Christian-operated corporation called Braidwood Management, which is owned by Texas Republican megadonor Steven Hotze. Hotze claimed the Affordable Care Act requirement that health plans cover PrEP would make his company, quote, "facilitate and encourage homosexual behavior." And so this federal judge in Texas, Reed O'Connor, sided with Hotze. In his ruling, the judge said that Hotze was able to prove that the PrEP mandate substantially burdens his religious freedoms.

this judge is on the dole

The Texas Attorney General's Office has made a habit of filing lawsuits against the federal government that land in O'Connor's court.

Since 2015, almost half of challenges to the federal government that Texas filed in district courts here landed in O’Connor’s courtroom, attorney general’s office records show.

One of America’s most partisan judges just gave Navy SEALs permission to defy a direct order

yep red state Judges just acting on the Law not how its written ... But by his religious views on the matter ... we see it all over the nation now GODs justifies more discrimination over Justice

how do you know that judge is on the dole? just by saying it?

read the bill of rights wayne. you can’t peoppe to
force that which violates their generally accepted beliefs. you don’t have to like it, that’s the the bill of rights matters. no one has to fight for their rights when everyone agrees with them. the bill of rights only matters if you respect those rights even when you hate the context.

i dont especially like that context either. But the bill of rights matters, even if it’s not convenient for you,,wayne.

I hate what’s said on MSNBC, but they have the right to say it. I hate art that shows the Virgin Mary covered in feces, I hate meetings of the Black Panthers, but i like living in a country where they have the right to do what they believe.

The bill of rights is meaningless, if you’d only grant those rights when it’s convenient for you, when it costs you nothing.

Just read the bill. it’s not hard. they probably made a pop up book version somewhere. You can’t deny the right of someone else to freely exercise their religion as they, not you, see fit. the right doesn’t only exist when you feel
like granting it.

[Pete F.]

Quite the path they’ve chosen, I wouldn’t want to see them end up like sub-Saharan Africa.
46 men — including a high school football coach and a youth pastor — were arrested during a multi-agency operation targeting sex trafficking in North Texas and 30 church leaders in Tennessee and Georgia were convicted of sex abuse crimes.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Quite the path they’ve chosen, I wouldn’t want to see them end up like sub-Saharan Africa.
46 men — including a high school football coach and a youth pastor — were arrested during a multi-agency operation targeting sex trafficking in North Texas and 30 church leaders in Tennessee and Georgia were convicted of sex abuse crimes.
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and no democrat or atheist has ever been arrested, ever.

Pete, i hate to break it to you, but our system of due process doesn’t allow you to trash freedom of religion to all of 330 million of us, because 46 people who go to church, got arrested.

Not how it works, and it’s a stupid argument, no clue what or who you were responding to. Did someone claim that everyone who goes to church is perfect?

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

how do you know that judge is on the dole? just by saying it?

read the bill of rights wayne. you can’t peoppe to
force that which violates their generally accepted beliefs. you don’t have to like it, that’s the the bill of rights matters. no one has to fight for their rights when everyone agrees with them. the bill of rights only matters if you respect those rights even when you hate the context.

i dont especially like that context either. But the bill of rights matters, even if it’s not convenient for you,,wayne.

I hate what’s said on MSNBC, but they have the right to say it. I hate art that shows the Virgin Mary covered in feces, I hate meetings of the Black Panthers, but i like living in a country where they have the right to do what they believe.

The bill of rights is meaningless, if you’d only grant those rights when it’s convenient for you, when it costs you nothing.

Just read the bill. it’s not hard. they probably made a pop up book version somewhere. You can’t deny the right of someone else to freely exercise their religion as they, not you, see fit. the right doesn’t only exist when you feel
like granting it.

how do you know that judge is on the dole? just by saying it?

Really Jim now sarcasm alludes you?

Of course you don’t see an issue with 50% of cases get sent to his desk from Religious zealots.

Who see how he rules not by the bill of rights that you quote as if to grant him an excuse. He rulings seem to always involve anti government religious overtones ..

Seem this guy would rule against any contraception agreeing it promotes un married Sex

But these religious nuts who feel anti hiv meds is promoting gay sex
Have no issues paying for others viagra ..

Not sure how a business offering health insurance can list what treatments are acceptable

Jim as expected sees discrimination as a religious right and freedom..

This is the new religion in the Right in America.. don’t like something and then scream religious rights

And some judges and the SJC will agree with them because their allegiance is to god before the nation or its laws
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

how do you know that judge is on the dole? just by saying it?

Really Jim now sarcasm alludes you?

Of course you don’t see an issue with 50% of cases get sent to his desk from Religious zealots.

Who see how he rules not by the bill of rights that you quote as if to grant him an excuse. He rulings seem to always involve anti government religious overtones ..

Seem this guy would rule against any contraception agreeing it promotes un married Sex

But these religious nuts who feel anti hiv meds is promoting gay sex
Have no issues paying for others viagra ..

Not sure how a business offering health insurance can list what treatments are acceptable

Jim as expected sees discrimination as a religious right and freedom..

This is the new religion in the Right in America.. don’t like something and then scream religious rights

And some judges and the SJC will agree with them because their allegiance is to god before the nation or its laws
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"Not sure how a business offering health insurance can list what treatments are acceptable"

No kidding. Because you only care about the Bill Of Rights, when it's the rights of liberals being discussed. Americans can not be forced to abandon their religious beliefs at work. That's how. The Bill doesn't specify that you have to agree with the context in which someone is asserting those rights.

I'm not saying I agree with the stance those Christians are taking. I just agree the Bill Of Rights gives them that right. If I owned a business that provided health insurance, I'd absolutely want to cover HIV treatment, but not recreational birth control and not gender transition treatments. You want it, you buy it. Leave me out of it.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

and no democrat or atheist has ever been arrested, ever.

Pete, i hate to break it to you, but our system of due process doesn’t allow you to trash freedom of religion to all of 330 million of us, because 46 people who go to church, got arrested.

Not how it works, and it’s a stupid argument, no clue what or who you were responding to. Did someone claim that everyone who goes to church is perfect?

Poor victim
Nothing to do with it, I don’t care and neither does HIV/AIDS care what religion anyone is.
Being religious doesn’t make you immune to disease or snakebites.
Most of the infected in sub-Sahara Africa aren’t gay or drug users.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

"Not sure how a business offering health insurance can list what treatments are acceptable"

No kidding. Because you only care about the Bill Of Rights, when it's the rights of liberals being discussed. Americans can not be forced to abandon their religious beliefs at work. That's how. The Bill doesn't specify that you have to agree with the context in which someone is asserting those rights.

I'm not saying I agree with the stance those Christians are taking. I just agree the Bill Of Rights gives them that right. If I owned a business that provided health insurance, I'd absolutely want to cover HIV treatment, but not recreational birth control and not gender transition treatments. You want it, you buy it. Leave me out of it.

Yeah Jim, this same judge ruled that the Navy SEALs didn’t have to get the vaccine and banned the Navy from discharging them. That is pure BS because apparently shall not kill. Does it apply?. to Navy SEALs who suddenly feel getting the vaccine was it was against their religion like I said Christians, picking and choosing which religious freedoms they want to use and win total BS. And shockingly the supreme court ruled against the judge like I said, holds 50% of the cases that come out of Texas regarding government and religion

The bill of rights has never been so abused until conservatives used it as it as a weapon I just don’t know why you can’t see that?
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Yeah Jim, this same judge ruled that the Navy SEALs didn’t have to get the vaccine and banned the Navy from discharging them. That is pure BS because apparently shall not kill. Does it apply?. to Navy SEALs who suddenly feel getting the vaccine was it was against their religion like I said Christians, picking and choosing which religious freedoms they want to use and win total BS. And shockingly the supreme court ruled against the judge like I said, holds 50% of the cases that come out of Texas regarding government and religion

The bill of rights has never been so abused until conservatives used it as it as a weapon I just don’t know why you can’t see that?
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It's not just one judge. Other judges (Supreme Court I think?) ruled that Hobby Lobby and Little Sisters Of The Poor cannot be forced to violate their religion in terms of what they offer employees in health insurance.

"The bill of rights has never been so abused until conservatives used it as it as a weapon"

Liberals use the Bill Of Rights every single day, while doing things that infuriate conservatives, but they have that right. When MSNBC and CNN claim that I hate everybody, when liberals burn the flag, when artists use public money to hang paintings of Jesus covered in feces in public museums. Those are all things that I find revolting and deeply insulting, but I'd never, ever say that the left doesn't have the right to exercise those rights.

Wayne, it's very easy to grant rights to people who you know will only exercise those rights in ways you agree with. The test of the Bill Of Rights, is whether or not you'd guarantee those rights to those who exercise them in ways that make you sick. I'm fine guaranteeing those rights to those I disagree with. Clearly you are not, because you spend a lot of time whining about it.

If you're OK with limiting those rights to situations you agree with, that means conservatives will do the same thing when they're in charge. You want Donald Trump being able to decide when Freedom of The Press exists and when it doesn't? Or Freedom Of Speech? I'm not OK with that..

Here's the exact wording from the constitution...

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"

The state doesn't decide what's a legitimate religious belief, we decide that for ourselves. And the state cannot interfere, within reason (no human sacrifices).

And I'm sorry to break it to you, but nowhere in that phrase does it say that freedom of religion only applies as long as you happen to be OK with it.

Liberal snowflakes seem to think they have a constitutional right to never be offended. I'm a conservative catholic living in CT. I'm used to being offended.

Nobody said democracy is supposed to be easy. People who disagree with you on everything, have the same exact rights that you have.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

apparently shall not kill. Does it apply?. to Navy SEALs who suddenly feel getting the vaccine was it was against their religion like I said Christians, picking and choosing which religious freedoms they want to use
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You're saying Christians are hypocrites if they serve in combat?

Theologians have LONG interpreted that commandment as "thou shall not commit murder". Killing someone in self-defense, and also in a just war, has long been considered in keeping with that commandment.

You just make it up as you go along.

[spence]

Dearest Jim, when was the last time you saw a US flag burnt?

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

You're saying Christians are hypocrites if they serve in combat?

Theologians have LONG interpreted that commandment as "thou shall not commit murder". Killing someone in self-defense, and also in a just war, has long been considered in keeping with that commandment.

You just make it up as you go along.

Iam no biblical scholar but I know the Ten Commandments don’t say Thou shall not murder.

And as if you ever went to war . There’s no such thing as a just war it’s all about kill or be killed

Theologians have LONG interpreted that commandment as "thou shall not commit murder". in a just war, has long been considered in keeping with that commandment.

Where did you get that lie from the the theologians from the crusades
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Iam no biblical scholar but I know the Ten Commandments don’t say Thou shall not murder.

And as if you ever went to war . There’s no such thing as a just war it’s all about kill or be killed

Theologians have LONG interpreted that commandment as "thou shall not commit murder". in a just war, has long been considered in keeping with that commandment.

Where did you get that lie from the the theologians from the crusades
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i’m not lying. the catholic church recognizes the principle of just war. Your ignorance, doesn’t make me a liar.

https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/n...holic-teaching

[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

You're saying Christians are hypocrites if they serve in combat?

Theologians have LONG interpreted that commandment as "thou shall not commit murder". Killing someone in self-defense, and also in a just war, has long been considered in keeping with that commandment.

You just make it up as you go along.

Just war, that statement is so open to interpretation, so many hundreds of thousands have died in the worlds holy wars in the name of Christianity. Who determines one particular war or conflict is just?

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

i’m not lying. the catholic church recognizes the principle of just war. Your ignorance, doesn’t make me a liar.

https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/n...holic-teaching

St. Augustine in the 4th century Yep Jim what a convincing argument
You just proved my point some edict from the crusades

Just another example of religious people wanting to pick and choose when and how they wish to excise their beliefs to justify when convenient

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

St. Augustine in the 4th century Yep Jim what a convincing argument
You just proved my point some edict from the crusades

Just another example of religious people wanting to pick and choose when and how they wish to excise their beliefs to justify when convenient

you mis-read it. in july, pope francis said war can be just and there is the right to self defense.


this is too stupid to believe you’re serious

https://cruxnow.com/vatican/2022/07/...t-war-doctrine

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

you mis-read it. in july, pope francis said war can be just and there is the right to self defense.


this is too stupid to believe you’re serious

https://cruxnow.com/vatican/2022/07/...t-war-doctrine

We just killed a isis leader in Africa were those forces acting in self defense? We attacked them

Just accept it jim when politicians politicized the vaccine mandate the conservatives and their supporters in their efforts to continue to push their agenda and switch gears to the religious freedom argument which is totally bogus..

I had a friend who’s sons in the Air Force but he’s a trump fan bought into all the vaccine lies . Who insisted he was going to get a religious exemption.. after the military mandated the shot. He’s baptized that the extent of his faith
But he had a choice follow order or get out… he got the shot..

Not sure why conservatives suddenly feel disobeying orders is fashionable in today’s military talk about a woke idea.. what’s next for people in the military no iam not going to attack that enemy position it’s dangerous and I might die says my religion
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[wdmso]

From a sitting Air Force General recently

“Lethality matters most,” he added, according to Task & Purpose, a military publication. “When you can kill your enemy, every part of your life is better. Your food tastes better. Your marriage is stronger.”

And I bet he goes to church on Sundays

[Pete F.]

Haven’t you noticed the people callously saying someone “should’ve just complied” are the same ones SCREAMING “DO NOT COMPLY” when it comes to vaccines?!

DO NOT COMPLY when it comes to election results they don’t like?!

Poor victims
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[spence]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Haven’t you noticed the people callously saying someone “should’ve just complied” are the same ones SCREAMING “DO NOT COMPLY” when it comes to vaccines?!

DO NOT COMPLY when it comes to election results they don’t like?!

Poor victims
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After watching all the video available, I can’t blame that guy from running. These cops are going to do time.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by spence

After watching all the video available, I can’t blame that guy from running. These cops are going to do time.

The police have been given status in the nation in the last 20 years police have always been respected but it seems our conservatives want them to worshiped to be beyond scrutiny.. the same thing has happened to our military from baby killers to people whom were convicted as war criminals pardoned and adopted as a hero by the Right .

The police dress and are equipped as if they were in Iraq . Not with out some justification seeing the Right allows all manner of weapons to be available to be used against them..

But I’ve said this before in Iraq I could not shoot and kill any Iraqi because I thought or I feared for my safety . Or simply because they ran
But if the pointed or fired a weapon it was game on.

But in my own country the police have the power and the mindset that allows them to kill unarmed persons . Because they feared for their life. I get it it’s a dangerous job but I would expect they understood that

But my same principle applies to police if someone points a gun or fires at you or come at you with a blade then it’s game on .

But in today’s polarized landscape
Any police criticism or accountability is considered left wing radicalism

Police training needs 24hrs of mandatory training focused on You Are not above the law.. and here’s why
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

The police have been given status in the nation in the last 20 years police have always been respected but it seems our conservatives want them to worshiped to be beyond scrutiny.. the same thing has happened to our military from baby killers to people whom were convicted as war criminals pardoned and adopted as a hero by the Right .

The police dress and are equipped as if they were in Iraq . Not with out some justification seeing the Right allows all manner of weapons to be available to be used against them..

But I’ve said this before in Iraq I could not shoot and kill any Iraqi because I thought or I feared for my safety . Or simply because they ran
But if the pointed or fired a weapon it was game on.

But in my own country the police have the power and the mindset that allows them to kill unarmed persons . Because they feared for their life. I get it it’s a dangerous job but I would expect they understood that

But my same principle applies to police if someone points a gun or fires at you or come at you with a blade then it’s game on .

But in today’s polarized landscape
Any police criticism or accountability is considered left wing radicalism

Police training needs 24hrs of mandatory training focused on You Are not above the law.. and here’s why
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l

lies

police aren’t to be worshipped, everyone in the right calls for training and rooting out the bad apples

what you’re oblivious to as always, is that it’s your side peddling in politically convenient horsesh*t, they they’re all racist and all bad and engaged in a plot to commit genocide against blacks, despite the data being crystal clear that’s not the case. That they need to be defunded.

There are hundreds of thousands of cops. there are some really bad ones who need to be rooted out. most are trying to do a difficult, dangerous, and vital job.

why anyone would ever do it, given what they can expect from the left, is beyond me. Look no further than the history of current liberal kingpin al sharpton.

accurate police criticism is fine. suggesting that they are systemically racist, is typical liberal crap. in most urban areas, the police is the one single urban institution that works the way it’s supposed to.

it’s all a diversion, a distraction, a smokescreen.anything to avoid an honest conversation about what’s going on in the cities

wayne, you’re a prison guard, and you said the most hateful peoppe you e ever
met are the ones who go to church. worse than the prisoners yiu guard.

you’re not to be taken seriously here. .

here’s the deal. We need most cops to be where most violent crime happens. That’s poor urban areas. because that’s where most cops are, and where most violence takes place, it’s where most tragedies will inevitably occur. it’s not about race, it’s about socioeconomics.

to the left, all they want to talk about is race, because even they know they look stupid talking about anything else.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

l

lies

police aren’t to be worshipped, everyone in the right calls for training and rooting out the bad apples

if that was so the would have voted for the george floyd justice in policing act. but it was killed by republicans over Qualified immunity which is has been abused and now is a get out jail free card for some and the name of the Bill didn't help


what you’re oblivious to as always, is that it’s your side peddling in politically convenient horsesh*t, they they’re all racist and all bad and engaged in a plot to commit genocide against blacks, despite the data being crystal clear that’s not the case. what's that saying perception is reality and to many black its their reality followed That they need to be defunded.

There are hundreds of thousands of cops. there are some really bad ones who need to be rooted out. most are trying to do a difficult, dangerous, and vital job. Its police culture Jim... not individuals learn the difference please

why anyone would ever do it, given what they can expect from the left,So no police are liberals ? Got it is beyond me. Look no further than the history of current liberal kingpin al sharpton. Oh Al sharpton again please get a new scapegoat


accurate police criticism is fine. suggesting that they are systemically racist, the people who live it would disagree is typical liberal crap. in most urban areas, the police is the one single urban institution that works the way it’s supposed to.

it’s all a diversion, a distraction, a smokescreen. for what purpose Jim? and from what

Why is the truth always seen as lies by conservatives ?




30 year in corrections aka Law enforcement .. even inside prisons we deal with the same issues do you think violent criminals stop being violent after they go to Jail ? .. we have cameras everywhere but maybe were trained differently... but we still have a culture to overcome . And staff who stepped outside the line sure they get removed . but the image still sticks to the good people who are left to carry on

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Why is the truth always seen as lies by conservatives ?




30 year in corrections aka Law enforcement .. even inside prisons we deal with the same issues do you think violent criminals stop being violent after they go to Jail ? .. we have cameras everywhere but maybe were trained differently... but we still have a culture to overcome . And staff who stepped outside the line sure they get removed . but the image still sticks to the good people who are left to carry on

so everyone who voted against a bill you liked, is in favor of police brutality.

As always, zero facts, zero honesty, zero common sense. just more “conservatives are all evil, and all the world’s evil exists on the right” simpleton nonsense.

you think something is true because it comes from the left.. that’s not evidence of anything.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

so everyone who voted against a bill you liked, is in favor of police brutality.

As always, zero facts, zero honesty, zero common sense. just more “conservatives are all evil, and all the world’s evil exists on the right” simpleton nonsense.

you think something is true because it comes from the left.. that’s not evidence of anything.

so everyone who voted against a bill you liked, is in favor of police brutality.

well if you try to pass bills that Republicans introduced that would encourage — not force — police departments to end the use of violent tactics like chokeholds and no-knock raids. that sounds about right .

Even in my prison we couldn't use choke holds for decades

WOW Jim do ever do any research.

The House passed the George Floyd Justice In Policing Act on Wednesday night with just one Republican vote. And that one Republican now says it was an accident.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

so everyone who voted against a bill you liked, is in favor of police brutality.

well if you try to pass bills that Republicans introduced that would encourage — not force — police departments to end the use of violent tactics like chokeholds and no-knock raids. that sounds about right .

Even in my prison we couldn't use choke holds for decades

WOW Jim do ever do any research.

The House passed the George Floyd Justice In Policing Act on Wednesday night with just one Republican vote. And that one Republican now says it was an accident.

no knock raids have an obvious place. there are times where it’s better for police to not have to announce that they’re on scene. Some people might react negatively to that. I’m sorry if that’s going too fast for you.

biden said this week that police shouldn’t shoot to kill. he said they should “shoot to stop”. this is the president,. liberals can’t understand that reality trumps utopia. we should ask cops to shoot guns out of peoples hands. super. how come
no one ever thought of that, it’s so simple!!

when you elect an alzheimer’s patient, this is what you get.

when you post that they voted against it, without a syllable as to why, it’s because you don’t know why. you’re just regurgitating talking points. Tell me why they said they oppose the bill.

[Pete F.]

Here’s a list of effective change since the Rodney King beating:
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Here’s a list of effective change since the Rodney King beating:
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ask any police department human resources officer, they’ll
disagree. there’s a lot more sensitivity training , etc. maybe that stuff is a waste.

I saw a CNN report tonight that said some of the memphis cops on that video, were hired after the city lowered the hiring requirements in an attempt to increase diversity. i’m sure that diversity comes as a great comfort to the victims family.

diversity really is overrated in some professions. Quality and competence is a lot more important, isnt it?

not a lot of improvements in gun laws after sandy hook. because both sides dig in amd refuse to compromise. both sides elect too many jerks.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

ask any police department human resources officer, they’ll
disagree. there’s a lot more sensitivity training , etc. maybe that stuff is a waste.

I saw a CNN report tonight that said some of the memphis cops on that video, were hired after the city lowered the hiring requirements in an attempt to increase diversity. i’m sure that diversity comes as a great comfort to the victims family.

diversity really is overrated in some professions. Quality and competence is a lot more important, isnt it?

not a lot of improvements in gun laws after sandy hook. because both sides dig in amd refuse to compromise. both sides elect too many jerks.

One of the facts seared into my head is that when Derek Chauvin was convicted for murdering George Floyd, he was only the 7th cop to be convicted of murder since 2005, out of the 15,000 police killings in those 16 years.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

One of the facts seared into my head is that when Derek Chauvin was convicted for murdering George Floyd, he was only the 7th cop to be convicted of murder since 2005, out of the 15,000 police killings in those 16 years.
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because most deaths are justified, and the ones that aren’t self defense are mostly good faith mistakes, which is t murder. . i’m sure there were murders that went unpunished, but very few

do you ever consider the other point of view? the cop, who didn’t ask to be put into a life or death situation where they have to make a decision in a fraction of a second. There will be tragedies. no way to avoid it. we need to mimimize it, but there’s a reality to accept.

and for sure, it’s not always about race.