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01-10-2005, 01:02 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Newtown, CT
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Sandy,
I know who winds up paying the tax, I was just responding to your statement that those who informally sell fishing tackle should be collecting the tax. IOW if they are just reselling the tackle they don't have to pay the tax.
Afterhours,
This is the quote I was remembering:
Much to do about nothing has been made about WB matching funds. Only 3 states out of every state from DE to ME stand to see any increase whatsoever and only 2 of those 3 stand to see any amount (NJ would get a whopping $118,000 projected increase..insert rolleyes icon for sure)
This statement was made by Tony Bogan, a member of the MAFMC from NJ, in a similar discussion on another board. The complete quote can be found Licensing discussion
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01-10-2005, 01:04 PM
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Think of the fish
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: South County
Posts: 165
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By the way, Basic you are the b*lls!!!!
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01-10-2005, 02:28 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Narragansett, RI
Posts: 251
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Originally posted by Navy Chief
I really think they need to sell fishing licences for Salt Water just to pay for more enforcement of their weak-ass regulations. The regs need to be tightened up, fines need to go up and enforcement needs to go up. We, as fisherman, should pay for this. It's our sport. It should cost you $1000 if you get caught with an undersize Striper not $50.
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Well said Navy Chief, well said
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-Brendan
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01-10-2005, 07:43 PM
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Reagan Republican
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Newport, RI
Posts: 235
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Thanks TunaCell
By the way I think that $1000 fine needs to go back to the fish.
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"I never trust a fighting man who doesnt smoke or drink." - ADM William "Bull" Halsey
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01-10-2005, 08:07 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Narragansett, RI
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I thought you hit it right on the head with the enforcement issues.

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-Brendan
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01-10-2005, 08:14 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: RI
Posts: 5,705
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It doesn't matter what the Feds match.The money YOU(WE)
pay for the actual licsense WILL go to the general fund.We in RI already pay some of the highest taxes in the nation for the least amount of return.
I'm still waiting for all the other crap promised when they hiked our taxes the last time.Now you want me to pay more?
Geez take another hit off the crack pipe!!
The state should sell liscenses to pay for the enforcement of their weak-a$$ regs Navy Chief?Are you actually a RI resident or are you just stationed here?The regs here are no weaker here than anywhere else on the east coast.Pretty easy to say when you MIGHT(I said might)not being paying state taxes.
We damn well pay enough already!I'll be damned if I'm going to continue to keep paying out my HARD EARNED money so the state can use it however it sees fit.WAKE UP FOLKS WE LIVE IN RI!!!DIPRETE.......RISDIC...........PLUNDERDOME!!! !!!!!!
Saltwater liscense......when you can pry the rod from my cold dead hands.Same goes for my guns!
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01-10-2005, 08:49 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: newport
Posts: 1,136
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Saltwater liscense......when you can pry the rod from my cold dead hands.Same goes for my guns!
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01-10-2005, 09:18 PM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Somewhere between OOB & west of Watch Hill
Posts: 35,272
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I went to most of the RI License meetings held here in RI a few years back. If memory serves me right, we are doing a pretty good job in RI in getting the matching dollars we qaulify for thru the funds generated by commercial licesnes and fees and freshwater licenses.
If you want to review some of the info from those meetings check here - makes for less than interesting but infromative reading: http://www.ci.uri.edu/Projects/rifis...creational.htm
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01-10-2005, 09:21 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Here and There Seasonally
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Saltwater license? Money grab plain and simple. They have the bucks to enforce the present laws now. How often to you see it done? Next to never! Go ahead pass a SW License, I won't pay it and I won't get fined. They're just not there. And that's true every where. You wanna drive the beach, go ahead, who's to stop you? When's the last time a Ranger stopped and talked to you? Why spend 150 bucks for the privilidge? It's all a crock of bull. They enforce by intimidation and implied threats, There's no one behind the curtain.
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01-11-2005, 07:44 AM
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Reagan Republican
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Newport, RI
Posts: 235
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Basswipe
I became a Rhode Island resident when I moved out here late in 03. I pay stay taxes here. My point is that the fine for keeping an undersized Striper is $50. In California, if you get caught with an undersized fish of any kind, you get fined at least $1000, you also get your boat impounded and sold, if you fished from shore, your car just got impounded and sold. All your equipment just go impounded and sold. All the fines go back to enforcement and fisheries.
I've said before that fisheries management on the entire east coast sucks. The Menhaden industry told the management councel that they would not comply or support regulation. If that ever happen on the west coast, that company would be through. The scientist and biologist should call the shots for fisheries, not commercial guys, not rec guys.
Last year was my first year fishing here and I was out alot. I saw 1 fisheries cop the entire year. If licence money went into the general fund, that would be bogus, but if it went to the fisheries and enforcement that would be good for all fishermen involved.
I would gladly pay $50 a year to improve fishing.
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"I never trust a fighting man who doesnt smoke or drink." - ADM William "Bull" Halsey
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01-11-2005, 04:41 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: RI
Posts: 5,705
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Quote:
Originally posted by Navy Chief
Basswipe
I became a Rhode Island resident when I moved out here late in 03. I pay stay taxes here. My point is that the fine for keeping an undersized Striper is $50. In California, if you get caught with an undersized fish of any kind, you get fined at least $1000, you also get your boat impounded and sold, if you fished from shore, your car just got impounded and sold.
Last year was my first year fishing here and I was out alot. I saw 1 fisheries cop the entire year. If licence money went into the general fund, that would be bogus, but if it went to the fisheries and enforcement that would be good for all fishermen involved.
I would gladly pay $50 a year to improve fishing.
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You being an RI resident even for just a short time should know better than to willing give MORE money to this state.
California's in much worse shape than here.Bad example.
As far as here goes as I said before the money WILL go into the general fund.Liscensing WON'T be enacted without
at least a percentage of the fee going into the fund period. Unacceptable.
I would have no problem seeing huge fines and impoundments put in place instead of liscensing.Why should I care?I'm legal all the time.But the money will used for many other things other than environmental purposes.
Remember this is RI.
I'm glad YOU'RE willing to pay 50 bucks.99% of the other Rec. fisherman aren't.
Like I said before "They'll have to pry the rod from my cold dead hands before I pay for a liscense".
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01-12-2005, 12:12 AM
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M.S.B.A.
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: I live in the Villiage of Hyannis in the Town of Barnstable in the Commonwealth of MA
Posts: 2,795
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Quote:
Originally posted by Springtides
By the way, Basic you are the b*lls!!!!
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"It is impossible to complain and to achieve at the same time"--Basic Patrick (on a good day)
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01-12-2005, 03:31 PM
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Think of the fish
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: South County
Posts: 165
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Check you PM
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01-19-2005, 04:35 PM
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T-TOPS RULE
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: riverside, r.i.
Posts: 65
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seems like the feds have enough of my money as it is... they can use some of the sales tax we pay on fishing tackle
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