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11-08-2006, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
NEWSFLASH: RUMMY RESIGNS
-spence
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I was gonna say "link or its not happening" but I just went to every news site on the web.
Its true.
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11-08-2006, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
It would depend on how far you were from the min wage today, and what kind of pressure your employer would have to be able to retain or attract a skilled employee like yourself.
If you were already a few bucks above it, I'd say you would probably see a bump or easily be able to bargin for one. If you were earning 30 bucks an hour I doubt it would have much short-term impact.
-spence
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I'm certainly well above the Minimum wage, so its not like this would affect me. But i can just see a ton of employess being pissed off, seeing the guys with little to noskills getting a $2hr raise, and the rest of the skilled guys getting squat.
This could backfire on employers is my point i guess. |
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11-08-2006, 01:14 PM
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It would be phased in over time, not a huge jump. Additionally I believe their desire is to tie the Federal min wage to the inflation rate, which may make some sense.
It certainly may cause some issues, but it seems to me if you're going to have a Federal Minimum Wage, you might as well do it in a manner that delivers on the original intent.
-spence
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11-08-2006, 01:40 PM
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sick of bluefish
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Then i appluad the Dems victory, Rumsfeld needs to go, if it tool losing to get it done, im fine with that
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11-08-2006, 03:44 PM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
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Originally Posted by RIJIMMY
From a CNN article on Pelosi - my comments in parenthesis
"We will revisit the tax cuts at the high end in order to give tax cuts to the middle class," she said.
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I guess the million dollar question is what is their definition of the "high end"?
$150,000 in the Northeast, or California, isn't the same as $150,000 in other places. And I'm betting "high end" is going to be pegged at less than that  |
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11-08-2006, 04:23 PM
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Calling Jon The Fisherman
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Originally Posted by RIJIMMY
good to see your focused on the issues
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11-08-2006, 04:25 PM
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Calling Jon The Fisherman
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spence
NEWSFLASH: RUMMY RESIGNS
-spence
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11-08-2006, 04:25 PM
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BigFish Bait Co.
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You guys really think there is a difference between one jack-a$$ and another jack-a$$??  I do not!  |
Almost time to get our fish on!!! 
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11-08-2006, 05:19 PM
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lobster = striper bait
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Originally Posted by BigFish
You guys really think there is a difference between one jack-a$$ and another jack-a$$?? I do not! |
The difference is, Gates actually knows what he's talking about.
Rumsfeld... not so much... |
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11-08-2006, 05:44 PM
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Soggy Bottom Boy
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Skip what I ment is, if Christy M. had a better chance to win he would of had my vote. I reread it and it did seem like I did or didn't
remember I voted for it before I voted against it  |
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11-08-2006, 05:49 PM
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I am from Mass. and just heard last nite that the State of Mass. is running a DEFICIT!!!
What happened to all that SURPLUS money the State had???
2 years ago there was a huge SURPLUS, so I thougt!!!
Maybe Romney took it for his Presidential Aspirations???
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11-08-2006, 07:44 PM
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I want to know
How the hell does Ted Kennedy get relected every time???
I Don't know of any one who likes the drunken peice of shhiet !!!
And most people i think would like to see him drive his car off another bridge and kill himself instead of another Mary Joe !!!
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LETS GO BRANDON
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11-08-2006, 10:56 PM
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North Shore Lurker
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Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie
How the hell does Ted Kennedy get relected every time???
I Don't know of any one who likes the drunken peice of shhiet !!!
And most people i think would like to see him drive his car off another bridge and kill himself instead of another Mary Joe !!!
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He gets re-elected just because of the name. Conditioned response. Election=drunken Kennedy.
Kind of like when you tease a dog.
Hold up a treat; they drool.
Say "election" way too many people in this state just think "kennedy"
I think un-convicted felon.
It is a felony to leave the scene of an accident with injury in MA.
At least for the rest of us peasants. |
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11-08-2006, 11:26 PM
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He does have much experience and is very knowledgeable.
He is also the brunt of all Kennedey angst....tough job but as a long time veteran he is up to it.
say what you will...  |
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11-09-2006, 12:42 AM
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I can't get away from the freakin Kennedys. I've had Ted as my Senator here in in MA, and now i'm moving to RI in a couple weeks and i found out Patrick freakin Kennedy will be mynew congressman. WTF!!!!??? 
It doesnt matter how much they suck, people see the name Kennedy and just vote for em i guess |
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11-09-2006, 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Skip N
I can't get away from the freakin Kennedys. I've had Ted as my Senator here in in MA, and now i'm moving to RI in a couple weeks and i found out Patrick freakin Kennedy will be mynew congressman. WTF!!!!???
It doesnt matter how much they suck, people see the name Kennedy and just vote for em i guess |
Awwww Sheeeeeit - you're coming to RI     ? 
Seriously - where are you moving to? |
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11-09-2006, 08:31 AM
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Wipe My Bottom
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spence
It's not liberals though...Across the country there are a lot of high-quality moderate Dems running, which should help Congress a lot.
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On paper it certainly appears that way. On that count I am somewhat hopeful.
One thing I am concerned about is the Dem leadership, particularly in the House. Speaker Pelosi is no moderate and she has been stewing for quite some time to push her leftist agenda.
They may have taken the approach of campaigning from the center-right, but may vote left while in office.
I ask: to what extent will these relative (d) newcomers, who appear to be more conservative than even some of their (r) predecessors, buckle to party discipline when the hot-button issues are decided?
This election was a referendum on the Iraq war and President Bush. But have Americans, in their fit of indignation, let the #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& cat out of the bag? (apologies to cat owners).
We shall see.
In any event, it will be interesting to see how the dems fare when the economy tanks, as it is poised to do so now (all the leading GDP indicators I track have been headed SOUTH since June). Will Americans blame it on the President, or will Congress get blamed too? Will proposed minimum wage legislation and higher taxes nudge the economy sooner into recession?
It's the economy, stupid, right? |
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11-09-2006, 09:02 AM
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sick of bluefish
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sort of a side thought, heard this on the radio yesterday,
isnt it amazing that ALL the voting issues, minorities being left out, faulty machines, etc. were FIXED in just 2 years? Wow....Im sure it has nothing to do with the dems winning
A perfect exasmple why I do done like libs
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11-09-2006, 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by RIJIMMY
sort of a side thought, heard this on the radio yesterday,
isnt it amazing that ALL the voting issues, minorities being left out, faulty machines, etc. were FIXED in just 2 years? Wow....Im sure it has nothing to do with the dems winning
A perfect exasmple why I do done like libs
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So much for their Diebold conspiracy Theory. |
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11-09-2006, 09:06 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RIJIMMY
isnt it amazing that ALL the voting issues, minorities being left out, faulty machines, etc. were FIXED in just 2 years? Wow....Im sure it has nothing to do with the dems winning
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I think you're misreading the situation. There were still plenty of reports of voting problems and potential fraud.
It's an off year election for one and the Dem victory in the House was pretty clear cut though...the outrage has more been over close races with suspect results in big elections.
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11-09-2006, 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by stripersnipr
So much for their Diebold conspiracy Theory.
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Considering how the GOP has demonized the Dems the past decade, how are you going to spin it if they continue to have mainstream appeal?
-spence |
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11-09-2006, 09:14 AM
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sick of bluefish
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spence
I think you're misreading the situation. There were still plenty of reports of voting problems and potential fraud.
It's an off year election for one and the Dem victory in the House was pretty clear cut though...the outrage has more been over close races with suspect results in big elections.
-spence
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Spence, if it was turned around and the repubs won with the ame %s, you'd have Al Sharpton on CNN complaining that minorities couldnt vote, you'd have accusations of fraud, broken machines etc. There is NO way you can argue that. |
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11-09-2006, 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by RIJIMMY
Spence, if it was turned around and the repubs won with the ame %s, you'd have Al Sharpton on CNN complaining that minorities couldnt vote, you'd have accusations of fraud, broken machines etc. There is NO way you can argue that.
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Don't agree.
If this was a close race I think you'd see that behavior from either side...the last few Presidential elections were very close. And while I wouldn't say there was wholesale fraud, there are some serious unresolved claims from 2004.
Had the GOP managed to dramatically increase their position the Dems would have blamed Kerry and gone away.
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11-09-2006, 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Bassturbed
Will Americans blame it on the President, or will Congress get blamed too? Will proposed minimum wage legislation and higher taxes nudge the economy sooner into recession?
It's the economy, stupid, right?
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No kidding. Wendy's just announced they will outsource the guy that takes the drive thru order to India. I can't imagine that many businesses like that will survive a $2/hr increase in minimum wage. Bump it up $2 and we'll have to build a freakin moat with gators to go with that wall. |
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11-09-2006, 09:30 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spence
Considering how the GOP has demonized the Dems the past decade, how are you going to spin it if they continue to have mainstream appeal?
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I dont think it was Republicans who fabricated the Diebold Conspiracy. |
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11-09-2006, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by stripersnipr
I dont think it was Republicans who fabricated the Diebold Conspiracy.
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Neither did the Democratic party. It was a few left-wing nuts...who's only audience would be Nebe were it not for Rush Limbaugh and his clones trying to strip the American flag of it's blue stripes in the name of big advertising revenues.
It was the GOP that branded a vote for Democrats as a vote for terrorisim.
I guess the people didn't get the memo 
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11-09-2006, 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by spence
Neither did the Democratic party. It was a few left-wing nuts...who's only audience would be Nebe were it not for Rush Limbaugh and his clones trying to strip the American flag of it's blue stripes in the name of big advertising revenues.
It was the GOP that branded a vote for Democrats as a vote for terrorisim.
I guess the people didn't get the memo
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My Bad. I just assumed those far left wing nuts were Democrats. |
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11-09-2006, 09:48 AM
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Since when does our flag have blue stripes?
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11-09-2006, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by slapshot
Since when does our flag have blue stripes?
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because white striped didn't fit the metaphor
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11-09-2006, 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by stripersnipr
My Bad. I just assumed those far left wing nuts were Democrats. |
Don't do it again...
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