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Get out now!! 1 3.70%
Send mre troops and beat them down, even if we draft? 11 40.74%
Throw it on the United Nations Lap. Thats what they there for. 7 25.93%
Impeach Bush and charge him and Chenny and Rummy with war crimes 8 29.63%
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Old 12-18-2006, 08:17 PM   #1
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But they probably do get a comfortable little smile on their face when they hear and read some of the crap the Left puts out in this country.
Not sure why you waste your valuable brain time on stuff like this.

You don't think Bin Laden was praising Allah when Bush invaded Iraq?

You don't think Bin Laden wasn't dancing around his cave when is was clear there was no WMD?

You don't think Bin Laden doesn't &$^#%CENSORED&$^$ his AK-47 every day when Iraqi violence seems to keep increasing up, and up and up...

The new (and non liberal) Iraq Group Report has had the displeasure of reporting to the American people that the "drive by media" has actually be dramatically under reporting violence in Iraq because of how the US Government has been skewing statistics.

It would seem as though reality is our own worst enemy.

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Old 12-18-2006, 08:40 PM   #2
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Not sure why you waste your valuable brain time on stuff like this.

You don't think Bin Laden was praising Allah when Bush invaded Iraq?

You don't think Bin Laden wasn't dancing around his cave when is was clear there was no WMD?

You don't think Bin Laden doesn't &$^#%CENSORED&$^$ his AK-47 every day when Iraqi violence seems to keep increasing up, and up and up...

The new (and non liberal) Iraq Group Report has had the displeasure of reporting to the American people that the "drive by media" has actually be dramatically under reporting violence in Iraq because of how the US Government has been skewing statistics.

It would seem as though reality is our own worst enemy.

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Spin and counter-spin. The really crappy thing about wars is they never go the way you would like. Maybe Bin Laden has won some battles as you love to point out but so have we. No doubt his greatest victory would be the American People charging their own President with War Crimes. Couple that with running away from a fight with Al Queda (yes Al Queda is in Iraq) and.......use your imagination from there.
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Old 12-18-2006, 09:04 PM   #3
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The really crappy thing about wars is they never go the way you would like.
Of course, that's why you're supposed to have contingency plans!

Not the "let's assume the worst case" to get us in and then "assume the best case" once we're there.

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Maybe Bin Laden has won some battles as you love to point out but so have we. No doubt his greatest victory would be the American People charging their own President with War Crimes. Couple that with running away from a fight with Al Queda (yes Al Queda is in Iraq) and.......use your imagination from there.
We've has some tactical wins but little in the way of strategic wins against global terrorisim. If Bush was charged with war crimes or impeached Bin Laden wouldn't see it as a victory against the West, it would simply be confirmation of his beliefs that our leadership is corrupt.

And that's the rub. To hide what most around the world believe as unethical at best, or illegal at worst in the name of patriotisim is a serious compromise to the same moral superiority we claim to be standing up for in the middle east.

Try as you may to cast this aside as partisanship, but in doing so you're separating yourself from the values of classical liberalisim that in the hands of nearly free men gave birth to the Declaration of Independence and the US Constiturion.

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Old 12-18-2006, 09:06 PM   #4
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Like Father like son....... just an excerpt...


International War Crimes Tribunal
United States War Crimes Against Iraq Initial Complaint
Charging


George Bush, J. Danforth Quayle, James Baker,
Richard Cheney, William Webster, Colin Powell,
Norman Schwarzkopf and Others to be named
With
Crimes Against Peace, War Crimes, Crimes Against
Humanity and Other Criminal Acts and High Crimes in
Violation of the Charter of the United Nations,
International Law, the Constitution of the United States
and Laws made in Pursuance Thereof.

Preliminary Statement

These charges have been prepared prior to the first hearing of the Commission of Inquiry by its staff. They are based on direct and circumstantial evidence from public and private documents; official statements and admissions by the persons charged and others; eyewitness accounts; Commission investigations and witness interviews in Iraq, the Middle East and elsewhere during and after the bombing; photographs and video tape; expert analyses; commentary and interviews; media coverage, published reports and accounts gathered between December 1990 and May l991. Commission of Inquiry hearings will be held in key cities where evidence is available supporting, expanding, adding, contradicting, disproving or explaining these, or similar charges against the accused and others of whatever nationality. When evidence sufficient to sustain convictions of the accused or others is obtained and after demanding the production of documents from the U.S. government, and others, and requesting testimony from the accused, offering them a full opportunity to present any defense personally, or by counsel, the evidence will be presented to an International War Crimes Tribunal. The Tribunal will consider the evidence gathered, seek and examine whatever additional evidence it chooses and render its judgment on the charges, the evidence, and the law

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I thinks you guys are beating a dead horse now!!!

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Skitter - I think they are taking that a bit far...

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I agree

a bit whimsical

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The picture are a drastic approach at making ones point, but if you look closely you'll notice they pouches in the jacket/vest hes wearing are filled with C-4, which is why he was shot in the head.

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