What do you want to see?

[Goose]

I'ld like to see graphs of oods and percentages. These graph's could be based on tides, time of year, lure color ect. ect. Personely I like seeing pics heavy rods laid over and how you got them that way. I also like seeing pics of mintues old bass especialy dureing daylight hours.
Humor thing...I sat in on Al Gags one time and he had the dryest sense of humor. I asure you I wasn't the only one saying this and if I hadn't drove 45min I woulda walked out, no bs. You wanna throw in a joke or two thats one thing but if you wanna do comedy theres a time and place for that.

[snake slinger]

i like to see pics of big fish but there should be pics of a stretch of water and explaine where and why you should present eel or lure.you can take a pic of a spot and not burn it.

[Raven]

all knowledge that we have in our brains.....even words are stored as pictures that we associate with that definition. The word apple, we see as a picture of the word apple...but also we see a 3 dimensional apple in our minds eye.

So pictures are very important in any presentation
on the one hand.... but with the forementioned said....a still picture must be worth a thousand words and be informative like how things are rigged..(done) and then left there to burn that image (technique) into our brain.

With the popularity of youtube....short video's (ie moving pictures)
are becoming more of the standard method of demonstration of something that cannot be demonstrated very well in a room via words or it would leave to much to the imagination.

the verification pictures of the Big Bass being caught should be
less during the presentation and more around the question and answer period following. People also want to imagine themselves
catching 30-40lb fish so some pictures are required to fuel their
imagination without the viewer being over saturated.

[Canalman]

Bill,

I want a map on that screen showing all your fishing spots, all mine, all Ebens, Piemma's etc.

No, really no,

I think looking at things from a "fishing sense" angle is the way to go. Teach how instead of where. Talk about learning the wind and tide, how they work together with bait patterns. How to stay with a school of fish from night to night. Stuff like that.

[Nebe]

Originally Posted by Canalman

Bill,

I want a map on that screen showing all your fishing spots, all mine, all Ebens, Piemma's etc.

[spence]

I'd use some dramatic shore photos and be very specific on where the fish will be. Use it as a teaching opportunity so people learn rather than are just given some splash.

A few big fish pics are great, but be sure to tell a story. Use drama...etc...

Bill, I'm a professional presenter. If you want I'd be happy to help.

-spence

[Saltheart]

I want maps and spots. I also want to know where to park.

Other than that , I guess babes in bikini's bending over to lip a bass is next most importatnt on my list.

[Megabyte]

Bill, pic & humor are very good to have. EBA presentation while excellent was way tooooooo short.

I'd like to see your normal 45-60 presentation next time your doing one.

Or I'd like to just see you catchin'

pic or any kind are good motivation for those still lookin to catch one of those 50's.

[eelman]

Originally Posted by Megabyte

Bill, pic & humor are very good to have. EBA presentation while excellent was way tooooooo short.

I'd like to see your normal 45-60 presentation next time your doing one.

Or I'd like to just see you catchin'

pic or any kind are good motivation for those still lookin to catch one of those 50's.

I know it was short however, we were under strict time restraints and I acually went OVER my time a bit so, it was not of my choice.

And soon I am off to the boat show to watch Jim Whites show!

[EricM]

Thanks for asking what might be interesting to see... IMHO diagrams of structure- not necessarily specific structure, but maybe idealized structure in such a way that it provides a good indicator of how an expert visualizes the underwater topography and where fish would be holding in relationship to current, etc.

The dead fish photo is the end of the road, but doesn't help the person sitting in the seminar to understand how you, the expert presenter, went through your thought process to catch that fish. If you have a limited amt. of time and visuals that you can show, then it would be great if each one counted in terms of illustrating your thought process. And then, at the end of the show...show the picture of the result of that thought process...

[Joe]

If you look across the room at a seminar, figure about half the people have been fishing for five years or less. The other half are very experienced and would be happy learning just one or two things - or maybe they have come specifically to ask a speaker a couple of questions.
This experience disparity among the audience means it's going to be very hard to do a presentation that is all things to all people. A picture of a dead fish does lend credibility to some, while others find it boastful.
As anyone who has ever looked out over a room full of surly fisherman knows - it's tough crowd - and a lot of work for very little money. My hat's off to you for doing it.

[EricM]

Continuing on the discussion, the real challenge is to try to appeal to audiences with mixed experience levels.

I do remember, however, a terrific podcast I heard- it was an interview with Norm Albiston, who is a professor of fly fishing at a university out west (the name escapes me), that did an excellent job of delivering something for everyone. The podcast laid out his basic approach to teaching fishing, which was to break down fishing into what he called "The Five Things You Can Change" when fishing, which were: 1) the depth you fish at; 2) the movement or lack thereof that you impart to the lure or bait; 3) the kind of lure you choose; 4) the location you have selected to fish at; and 5) the time that you choose to fish at, whether that be time of year or time of day or night.

In addition, he broke down his discussion of "location" into what he called "The Three C's" those being: a) current; b) cover; and c) cusine.

It was an excellent example of how to deliver a lecture that was both sophisticated and simple at the same time- and it provides a good insight into how one particular expert angler approaches the water.

[Redsoxticket]

Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&

Looking for some input, Not a flame war...

Anyway, recently it has been mentioned to me that less and less people attending seminars enjoy just looking at photos of dead fish. I have in the past used more photos of friends than of myself and I may eliminate dead fish pics all together..
So, does it get old to you seeing the same guy just flash fish after fish in a program? yes
or
do you want to see that? no
Or
would you rather leave the seminar with solid information you can put to use. yes
Do you need to see the pics of the fish to trust the guy? no
when you see a show where the speaker just shows shot after shot of dead fish does it bug you? yes in excess
One other Question, as long as the info is solid , do you care if the guy is really entertaining or injects humor? no, at the beginning to break ice or end
or
is the solid info all you care about! yes
How many times do you want to hear about so and so's 30 or 40lber thats yesterdays news?? yesterday yes, 30 years ago no.

I have a few shows this year and I am looking to simply give the best info I can, I am fairly new at it still and just trying to put the best foot forward. I'm sure you will.

Any and all thoughts on this are apreciated...Thanks..Bill

Place the audience like there in your shoes and say what you know best.

[Fish_Eye]

Old Chinese proverb says it all:

Tell me, I will forget

Show me, I may remember

Involve me, and I will understand.

[Nebe]

Steve Mckenna gives a good one.. maybe you could learn something from him
just kidding, just make it fun, keep the crowds attention and give out what you know best... EEEEELS and how to fish them.

[AT Grimaldi]

I agree with TT. I have seen a few different versions of your show and have found them all, humble, VERY informative and well done. Honestly, I wouldn't really change anything. Nice work. So....uh....when are you going to work at the Edge? LOL.